Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Agoran Values

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus]

Thank you!
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 6:05 AM Timon Walshe-Grey <m...@timon.red> wrote:
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> "the isqueal purpose of Nomic play".
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> -twg
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> On July 13, 2018 9:53 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus 
> <p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I'm sorry, this is probably there, but I can't find it. Where is the 
> > spelling?
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> > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 3:00 AM Aris Merchant
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> > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > > Your Honor, I respectfully submit the following argument on Docket #2:
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> > > A model longstanding Nomic is the G.A.N. of Agora, under the auspices
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> > > of which we now conduct these proceedings. The G.A.N. of Agora's
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> > > homepage notes that "[the G.A.N. of] Agora is a relatively serious
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> > > nomic; many of its players see it as an experiment in philosophy,
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> > > political science, and group dynamics, rather than just a game;
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> > > sometimes it acts more like a country." [1] I believe that the ends
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> > > pursued by players of the G.A.N of Agora have something to teach us
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> > > about the isqueal purpose of Nomic play. Maybe the game should be
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> > > pursued for the benefit of the art-form of Nomic play, and to broaden
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> > > our understanding of the entire universe around this.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, working solely toward abstract pursuits cannot be
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> > > the goal of Nomic, as that ignores the very nature and foundation of
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> > > Nomic play. The G.A.N. of Agora's homepage notes that "On the other
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> > > hand, Agorans [that is, citizens of the G.A.N. of Agora] tend not to
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> > > be above silliness and having fun; some players will do things just to
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> > > see what will happen, or to create unusual situations merely to
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> > > observe the resulting chaos." [1] This shows that, as in most games, a
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> > > critical goal of Nomic is to have fun. Fun and amusement are in
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> > > themselves worthy purposes, and many persons are gainfully employed in
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> > > the entertainment industry providing them to others. Would life be
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> > > truly worth living without any enjoyment? I will admit that Nomic play
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> > > is one of my primary forms of recreation, and I'm not really sure what
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> > > I would do without the break from the rest of my life.
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> > > Your Honor, I have played the game (i.e. the G.A.N. of Agora) for
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> > > quite a while, and served in the office of Promotor for some time now.
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> > > In that time, I have had the honor of participating in, playing, and
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> > > contributing to the G.A.N. of Agora. I have learned much from this
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> > > experience, not only in terms of raw knowledge, but also in life
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> > > lessons. I unreservedly state that I am better for the experience of
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> > > my play. I have learned how to carefully report facts, how to write
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> > > proposals and build consensus, and also how to effectively shuffle
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> > > paperwork (I beg the court's pardon for my humor). Perhaps this
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> > > personal betterment and growth is the real purpose of Nomic. I'm
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> > > certainly not suggesting that other parts of life are actually more
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> > > important than Nomic, but is growing as a person not a worthy goal for
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> > > all fallible, mortal, sentient beings? [2]
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> > > Your Honor, I sincerely apologize for obliging you to read through of
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> > > my lengthy arguments. Before you censure me for wasting the court's
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> > > time, I ask you to consider what I have said. My Fellow Counsellors
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> > > and I have argued for many different ends to Nomic play. If, at the
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> > > end of the day, one of them triumphs, then the world may be the better
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> > > for that new-found knowledge. However, I think it likely that, at the
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> > > end of the day, the court and all assembled here may be forced to act
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> > > as Socrates was so often forced to, and suspend judgement. If that
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> > > should happen, I ask the court to consider one last dark, but freeing
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> > > idea. Perhaps My Fellow Counsellors and I don't actually know what
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> > > we're talking about in this entire affair. Perhaps Nomic has no
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> > > intrinsic purpose. Perhaps nothing has a purpose, except that which
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> > > we, some of us Honorable Officers of the Court, but all mere living
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> > > creatures, [2] may dare to assign to it.
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> > > [1] https://agoranomic.org
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> > > [2] Please pardon me if there any persons here who don't meet that
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> > > description, we don't discriminate.
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> > > END ARGUMENTS
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> > > OOC: Find a rule breach in that. :)
> > >
> > > -Aris
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