Re: [AFMUG] OT...It's hot....the weather

2020-07-01 Thread chuck
of temperature. On 7/1/2020 10:46 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Nanohenry On Wed, Jul 1, 2020, 7:56 AM Chuck McCown wrote: Megacycles. Jigacycles. Picopicofarad. Mhos Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2020, at 6:45 AM, Ke

Re: [AFMUG] OT - stock market

2020-07-01 Thread chuck
I tend to skip from stone to stone when crossing the creek. Too old to take much of a bath. But I did put most of it on TSLA when it dipped below 400 a couple of months back, but I have been watching it for almost 10 years. I knew it was a bargain. From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, July

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Supper

2020-07-02 Thread chuck
Very firm. Sauce is slightly watery. Slight metallic taste. Of course this is cold from the can. Heating will probably make them super good. -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:41 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: OT: Supper -- AF mailing list AF

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Supper

2020-07-02 Thread chuck
kage. The full size ones, not the cocktail wienie size. Not outdated, and not canned so they won’t last for 13 years like the ravioli. But Chuck likes Vienna Sausages, so he’d probably like Smokies. We used to have them with Kraft Mac&Cheese for dinner. All of the above are kind of i

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Supper

2020-07-02 Thread chuck
I have been known to lay a can on the exhaust manifold. You do want to punch a vent hole in it first. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Supper Chef Boyardi Beefaraoni was my lunch du

[AFMUG] OT fun quick read

2020-07-03 Thread chuck
I can see these from my office window. https://bonnevillemariner.wordpress.com/2010/03/23/mysterious-black-towers-bear-testament-to-abandoned-tramway-that-once-held-life-and-death-in-the-balance/-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] !Hamilton!

2020-07-03 Thread chuck
Not really sure what it is about other than Alex Hamilton. Perhaps there is a gun fight? Is it revisionist history? -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 11:45 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] !Hamilton! I have been interested in watching that. I

Re: [AFMUG] !Hamilton!

2020-07-03 Thread chuck
I will wait for it come on TV (what my dad said all through the 60s and 70s). I am interested in the Seth Rogan HBO flick about falling in a barrel of pickles and coming alive 200 years later or some such thing. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 2:51 PM T

Re: [AFMUG] GPS app

2020-07-04 Thread chuck
the lower left corner of the main screen. -Original Message- From: Rhys Cuff (Speedweb Internet) Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2020 5:59 AM To: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS app Thanks. I’ll check it out Sent from my iPhone > On 4 Jul 2020, at 9:56 pm, Chuck McCown wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] GPS app

2020-07-04 Thread chuck
map marker selected on the map view. This is shown in the lower left corner of the main screen. -Original Message- From: Rhys Cuff (Speedweb Internet) Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2020 5:59 AM To: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS app Thanks. I’ll check it out Sent from my iPhone

[AFMUG] OT Cessna 172

2020-07-04 Thread chuck
Again, someone loaded 4 fully grown adults into a 172. Then they did something even more stupid, flew up a canyon in the summer in the mountains of Utah. While a 172 may technically have 4 seats, it is horribly underpowered for that load. It has a legal useful load with full fuel as low as 425

[AFMUG] Fw: Theodolite Support

2020-07-04 Thread chuck
-Original Message- From: Craig Hunter Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2020 8:10 AM To: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: Theodolite Support Chuck, I assume you found the import map markers feature on the map screen? That would allow import of any number of markers. If that option is grayed out

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cessna 172

2020-07-04 Thread chuck
Once upon a time, I took off from a grass strip in a 150, in Utah. 250 lb passenger beside me. 10 gallons of gas in cans behind the seats as well as a box of tools and some luggage. The strip was short too... Stall warning horn was squeaking as I barely cleared the powerlines at the end of the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Cessna 172

2020-07-04 Thread chuck
Hamburger on the mountain. A guy and his two teen age kids watched it go down. Hiked over there and saw things people do not need to see. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2020 10:24 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cessna 172

Re: [AFMUG] Part 15

2020-07-05 Thread chuck
I believe this was asked of the OET years ago and they agreed with you. From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 7:59 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Part 15 Was looking over the Part 15 rules. What is it that would cause a subscriber unit in a PtMP system to not be considered

Re: [AFMUG] !Hamilton!

2020-07-06 Thread chuck
S much better than the other one. I could not get through more than a few minutes of the other one yesterday. The womenfolk that were over to the house all wanted to watch it and none of the menfolk wanted to. Which then morphed into a couple of hours of vigorous debate about mee tooo an

Re: [AFMUG] OT gear puller

2020-07-06 Thread chuck
for that kind of stuff. Way to get creative. Did it work? On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:31 AM Chuck McCown wrote: Sent from my iPhone-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- -- Sam Lambie Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office

Re: [AFMUG] OT gear puller

2020-07-06 Thread chuck
around for that kind of stuff. Way to get creative. Did it work? On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:31 AM Chuck McCown wrote: Sent from my iPhone-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- -- Sam Lambie Taosnet Wireless Tech

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dart

2020-07-07 Thread chuck
It is a huge money multiplier. The extra 3 ducts may add $1/foot. But depending on how I am installing it, it is costing me anywhere from $3 to $10/foot to install just one duct for labor and machinery. Add a buck and get triple credit somewhere else, the marginal increase in cost amounts to

Re: [AFMUG] Round to flat wire connector / Bussbar

2020-07-08 Thread chuck
Cable shield bonding connectors could work. https://www.linemen-tools.com/3M_Scotchlok_4462SN_Shield_Bond_Connectors_p/3m-4462sn.htm Or a cable/waveguide grounding kit: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-ANDREW-241088-1-STANDARD-GROUNDING-KITS-FOR-1-2-DIAMETER-CABLES-444197-RF-AC/362880976061?hash=item547

Re: [AFMUG] Combining outputs from 800-GigE-POE

2020-07-09 Thread chuck
The DC circuit of these injectors is not much more than a simple splice. They will cross feed if that is what you are worried about. So yes, diodes would be needed on all of them to prevent reverse power. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 10:02 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Use

Re: [AFMUG] Combining outputs from 800-GigE-POE

2020-07-09 Thread chuck
Well, you are going to lose a volt. I would put them in series with the + on each one. 1n4004 will work great for this. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 10:42 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Combining outputs from 800-GigE-POE Thanks Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Battery supplier

2020-07-09 Thread chuck
I wouldn’t mind knowing that dealer. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 10:52 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Battery supplier Really just whomever is close to you. We found a Northstar dealer who didn't normally sell their telco gear and they add ou

Re: [AFMUG] Tulsa, et al

2020-07-09 Thread chuck
Going to jail I am guessing... -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 6:17 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Tulsa, et al So Tulsa and much of Eastern Oklahoma was just declared Indian lands. What does this do to towers which have studied saying they w

[AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread chuck
I am largely ignorant of the issues faced in world of law enforcement. And perhaps this is a broader philosophical question with no clear answers. A guy, alone at night, in a city, near the location of a reported armed robbery is confronted by cops, takes off running. He drops what appears to

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread chuck
Except it appears: “ the officer may not use deadly force to prevent escape unless "the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others."[1]” Do other countries have this problem? From: Carl Peterso

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread chuck
Charge me, please. When I finally got out of the building (it was dark by then) during the robbery (guy was still inside, had killed a customer) the cops didn't know if I was the bad guy or not. They frisked me pretty good and levitated me over to a command center. I was so happy to be groped

Re: [AFMUG] Setting up a private satellite Wi-Fi network is now cheaper and easier than ever | ZDNet

2020-07-10 Thread chuck
Holy crap, almost as fast as ISDN! From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 8:06 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Setting up a private satellite Wi-Fi network is now cheaper and easier than ever | ZDNet https://www.zdnet.com/article/setting-up-a-private-satellite

Re: [AFMUG] DIY HH Hooks

2020-07-11 Thread chuck
If you swung it just right at the back of the neck, you could snatch out the spinal cord. That would probably slow down you attacker. From: Robert Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 2:27 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIY HH Hooks Also handy for dragging victims along with you...

[AFMUG] OT comet

2020-07-12 Thread chuck
Got up about 4 or so and saw the comet. You can see it with the naked eye. Best one I think I have ever seen. Halley's was no big deal. Hale-Bopp was not great but was about the same as the current one. Kohoutek was the first I saw but I had to use field glasses. -- AF mailing list AF@af

Re: [AFMUG] OT comet

2020-07-12 Thread chuck
NE low, tail pointing up. Neowise It will be appearing in NW sky in the evenings right after sunset I think today. Probably tail pointing down. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 10:13 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT comet What part of the sk

Re: [AFMUG] is speed the issue, or price?

2020-07-12 Thread chuck
Years ago I started a wisp that grew to over 6000 subs. Part way through I decided to send out a letter to all the subs on the lowest tier. (The majority of them were on the lowest tier.) I said something like: Dear customer, we have decided to eliminate our economy plan. We have few custom

Re: [AFMUG] OT comet

2020-07-12 Thread chuck
I don’t have a clear memory of Hale-Bopp but I remember not being impressed. Seems like you really needed a telescope for a good view. This one I could see without using anything. It is not easy to see but you can spot it. The tail is long enough that you can spot it pretty easy. Very faint

Re: [AFMUG] OT comet

2020-07-12 Thread chuck
I would be over 100 if I got to see Hally’s again. So, yeah, not gonna see it with these eyes. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 10:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT comet What's 6000 years among friends? On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 10:50 AM Bill P

Re: [AFMUG] OT comet

2020-07-12 Thread chuck
Well, with California being closer to the sun, ‘tis to be expected. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 11:13 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT comet Out here, Hale-Bopp was huge. It covered half the sky as I recall. It wasn't particularly bright, but you surely didn't

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Eye antics

2020-07-12 Thread chuck
Well hopefully you can be in a massage type of bed with a face hole. Put a screen down there so you can watch the south of the border weather reports... From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 10:59 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Eye antics Last November,

Re: [AFMUG] Ewon Cozy 131

2020-07-12 Thread chuck
Interesting antenna. Any idea how much it costs? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 12:54 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Ewon Cozy 131 This is cellular modem thar creates a VPN to allow remote access to Allen Bradley PLC and VFDs plus HMI...my first time

[AFMUG] tomorrow

2020-07-12 Thread chuck
Excellent job on the intersection guys. Y’all just keep getting better at what you do. This week Centracom said they are coming to splice and perhaps install equipment in the C.O. BTW, C.O. stands for Central Office. Many years ago it was CDO for Central Distribution Office. This is where

Re: [AFMUG] tomorrow

2020-07-12 Thread chuck
Nope but hopefully a fun read... From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 1:52 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tomorrow Were we the intended audience here? bp On 7/12/2020 12:49 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Excellent job on the intersection guys. Y’all just keep getting b

Re: [AFMUG] tomorrow

2020-07-12 Thread chuck
I am sure you all enjoyed it much more than my crew... From: TJ Trout Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 2:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tomorrow Pretty cool to get a sneak peek into the mccown world even if it's an accidental peak 💁‍♂️ On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 12:53 P

Re: [AFMUG] tomorrow

2020-07-12 Thread chuck
Good thing I didn’t start off: “who is the stupid bastard that took home the only key for the red truck”... From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tomorrow I am sure you all enjoyed it much more than my crew... From:

Re: [AFMUG] tomorrow

2020-07-12 Thread chuck
Rack mount batteries got installed with the wires coming off the front then up the rack with wire hangers for a bit then diagonally going to the rack and then up the back Looks bad. I don’t know why the guy did not route them looking better. So if we flip them around in the rack, the wires c

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Birds going crazy?

2020-07-13 Thread chuck
What kind of power line? Like three phase on a cross arm or single phase with the hot at the top and neutral down below etc? Nesting activity? Seem way late in the year for that. What kind of bird? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 10:29 AM To: AFMUG Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Birds g

[AFMUG] OT : Getting more formal in my old age

2020-07-13 Thread chuck
other things after parking the truck. I asked him if he went to those other areas and looked for the key. Nope... Didn’t seem to care. Had a defiant attitude. So I said that in times like these, an owner of the equipment is always happy to hear, “hey chuck, sorry, I f**ked up”. That was met

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Getting more formal in my old age

2020-07-13 Thread chuck
[AFMUG] OT : Getting more formal in my old age Come on now Chuck. This is very clearly all your fault for not getting a bunch of extra keys. He shouldn’t have had to worry about returning a key after he used that truck. They should be disposable. How can you expect anyone to have a good wor

Re: [AFMUG] Contact for Calix

2020-07-13 Thread chuck
Cory, are you here? From: Paul McCall Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 3:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Contact for Calix Anybody have a reliable inside contact for Calix (pre-sales tech). We really want to look at their product, have left several web inquiries , email

Re: [AFMUG] OT..damn doctor...no pirate patches in stock..

2020-07-13 Thread chuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRe0FDvFRtM From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 4:20 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] OT..damn doctor...no pirate patches in stock.. Headed home

Re: [AFMUG] OT new splicing trailer

2020-07-14 Thread chuck
ul 14, 2020 at 10:20 AM Chuck McCown wrote: Some have ground rods and wires but mine don’t and I have never seen anyone do it. The generator is floating with respect to earth so grounding is not going to improve safety from that aspect. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 13, 2020, at 8:02 PM

Re: [AFMUG] roof ladder

2020-07-14 Thread chuck
I think I would want to use a pair of them. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:48 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] roof ladder This is probably old news to you guys that still deal with roof climbing all day long but it looked kind of neat. https://www.

Re: [AFMUG] OT new splicing trailer

2020-07-14 Thread chuck
hio treats us OK. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:20 AM Chuck McCown wrote: Some have ground rods and wires but mine don’t and I have never seen anyone do it. The generator is flo

Re: [AFMUG] OT new splicing trailer

2020-07-14 Thread chuck
0 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:20 AM Chuck McCown wrote: Some have ground rods and wires but mine don’t and I have never seen anyone do it. The generator is floating with respect to earth so grounding is not going to improve safety from that aspect.

Re: [AFMUG] OT new splicing trailer

2020-07-14 Thread chuck
Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:20 AM Chuck McCown wrote: Some have ground rods and wires but mine don’t and I have never seen anyone do it. The generator is floating with respect to earth so grounding is not going to improve safety from that aspect. Sent from my iPho

Re: [AFMUG] OT new splicing trailer

2020-07-14 Thread chuck
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:20 AM Chuck McCown wrote: Some have ground rods and wires but mine don’t and I have never seen anyone do it. The generator is floati

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: I want my money back

2020-07-14 Thread chuck
Sorry our product caused the failure of your tower. Of course we will replace the tower and all of the equipment on it... From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 3:38 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Ot: I want my money back Faulty faulty faulty --

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: I want my money back

2020-07-15 Thread chuck
hese don’t have steel hoops. And I had to read your post a couple times to realize you were talking about an old (man lift), not an (old man) lift. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 7:49 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot:

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Grant Imahara dies at 49 from brain aneurysm

2020-07-15 Thread chuck
Could go either way. Could be a bit of truth on both sides. When I was very young, it was common that little kids would get together to play “doctor” etc. The grups even joked about it. Nobody ever suggested we were causing lifelong mental damage. Different world now. From: Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Grant Imahara dies at 49 from brain aneurysm

2020-07-15 Thread chuck
Not only that, the universe of human behavior portrayed as “perhaps normal” to a young kid is certain to ”inform” their opinion of what is normal and could trigger obsessive interests in - and appetites for - things wholly unknown to the older generations. From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Wednesda

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router

2020-07-15 Thread chuck
The good news is a half million sub limit. They will easily find a half million hard to serve locations around the globe without breaking a sweat. So the low hanging fruit are not our customers. From: dave Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 1:16 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: De

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router

2020-07-15 Thread chuck
Yeah, it doesn’t consume uplink bandwidth. But I learned that with canopy all those years ago. (18 years ago?) We started out selling 256k+ burst. Then as competition came in we doubled it to 512k without increasing cost. Customers loved it. Our upstream connection hardly increased. Later

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router

2020-07-16 Thread chuck
I wish I could find that study of drive through car wash purchasing patterns. It does seem that people like choosing one up from the bottom. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 8:21 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router

Re: [AFMUG] OT : Getting more formal in my old age

2020-07-16 Thread chuck
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 1:41 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Getting more formal in my old age Come on now Chuck. This is very clearly all your fault for not getting a bunch of extra keys. He shouldn’t have had to worry about retur

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Switching Home to Grid Tied Solar

2020-07-16 Thread chuck
I have good luck with Chint. Good value. A backup generator on propane is a much better value than any battery solution. I used to have a good rule of thumb on how large the array needs to be. Something like total annual usage in kWh divided by 3 or something like that. I have 10 kW of panel

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Switching Home to Grid Tied Solar

2020-07-16 Thread chuck
That outfit that had the huge warehouse in Florida and later expanded to Phoenix I think. Don’t recall the name but someone on here will probably know who I mean. I bought them by the case/pallet. Multiple cases actually because I was doing about 10 systems at the same time.. From: can...@bel

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Switching Home to Grid Tied Solar

2020-07-17 Thread chuck
I have 3 - 3 ton AC units. I averaged 2300 kWh/month (during the pre solar days. ) My first home, 10x50 single wide would use 500 kWh per month. Electric heat. So roughly 1 kWh per square foot. US DOE estimates commercial buildings run 22 kWh per square foot. Alberta Canada, 1800 square foot hom

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Switching Home to Grid Tied Solar

2020-07-17 Thread chuck
Because you believe the earth is flat. From: Craig Schmaderer Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 9:47 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Switching Home to Grid Tied Solar Why do I live in Nebraska?I always thought if I keep asking myself that, I would finally some

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Switching Home to Grid Tied Solar

2020-07-17 Thread chuck
I too have seen the flat earth. But that was created by God to fool those that live in Nebraska. From: Craig Schmaderer Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 11:53 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Switching Home to Grid Tied Solar Chuck, I don’t believe that, it is

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: David busch

2020-07-18 Thread chuck
What is up with the insurance policy? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:50 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: David busch I saw this as wellI had never heard of him. On Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 10:07 PM Steve Jones wrote: This has been float

Re: [AFMUG] ojos

2020-07-18 Thread chuck
A margarita will do in the place of a parrot. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:02 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ojos Thank you...I do have the eye patch just in casejust an earring and parrot needed. If no parrot available, I will use

Re: [AFMUG] Splice Case Documentation

2020-07-18 Thread chuck
Re: [AFMUG] Splice Case DocumentationDidn’t find it when I googled it. From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 4:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Case Documentation Jason, We use fibersmith for all fiber documentation. Works great

Re: [AFMUG] Splice Case Documentation

2020-07-18 Thread chuck
Re: [AFMUG] Splice Case DocumentationNever mind. It came up first but as financial software. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 4:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Case Documentation Didn’t find it when I googled it. From: Mark - Myak

Re: [AFMUG] Splice Case Documentation

2020-07-19 Thread chuck
What is the cost? From: Jon Langeler Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 8:27 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Case Documentation This one is great and reasonable https://www.mapitright.com/ Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Jul 18, 2020, at 12:27

Re: [AFMUG] Splice Case Documentation

2020-07-19 Thread chuck
That sounds expensive. I use Autocad LT subscription. $55/month Could use DraftSight for even less. From: Jon Langeler Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 9:26 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Case Documentation It’s on the website. $250/mo I believe for the pac

Re: [AFMUG] Splice Case Documentation

2020-07-19 Thread chuck
I wish they would give me a test drive. From: Jon Langeler Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 10:20 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Case Documentation It’s the simplicity and time savings. If you already have experience with cad, then your way might be better J

Re: [AFMUG] Still watching TV with one eye

2020-07-19 Thread chuck
Your one eye needs some reward. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 12:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Still watching TV with one eye Some dumb show but -- AF mailin

Re: [AFMUG] Federated Wireless SAS outage?

2020-07-19 Thread chuck
Remember back in the early days (OK some of you were probably too young) when you truly could advertise your router as being able to route all IPs? -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 12:45 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Feder

Re: [AFMUG] Federated Wireless SAS outage?

2020-07-19 Thread chuck
I am talking BGP where the world would try to use you for everything. Everything came to a halt several times due to misconfigured routers. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 1:46 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Federated Wireless SAS outage

Re: [AFMUG] Splice Case Documentation

2020-07-19 Thread chuck
I don’t mind making my own staking sheets with autocad but if it is easier to use, that would be nice. The thing I am most interested in is keeping track of the OSP strand splicing etc. If I need to provide service to a new location, which strand should I use. Right now I have all my splitte

[AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-19 Thread chuck
Not trying to break lent, but I am lacking understanding. What are the young white kids rioting about in Portland? I am from Oregon, I remember protests in the 60s and 70s over Vietnam. I also remember a line of State Police walking through a park downtown and busting heads of those that did n

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-19 Thread chuck
The whole occupy whatever, set fire to whatever, irrespective of the adopted noble cause seems like a way to get away with being hooligans and spinning it as some form of justifiable act. I guess so they can have bragging rights later on. I believe them to be disingenuous and hypocritical.

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
No doubt the only difference between cops and criminals in some cases is luck. If someone with a predisposition to cracking heads manages to not get arrested as a youth due to dumb luck, they can find a place being a cop. I am amused at times how police unions freak out at experiments propose

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
Yeah, you gotta wonder what their orders were. Doesn’t a president normally activate the National Guard when extra help is needed? These guys were – what? Homeland Security? ICE? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:35 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
Federal Hitler tactics are just a recent thing, these kids have been going nuts for a couple of months. I respect anyone’s right to PEACEFULLY assemble and to protest. (Between 9:00 am and 5:00 pm M-F, holidays excluded, not on streets, must provide porta potties) I don’t respect defacing or h

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
Matt Dillon would have never done such a thing. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:48 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political Sending in US Marshals (and I presume other federal agents) in unmarked vehicles and unmarked uniforms is doing nothing but adding fue

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
Kent State was the Natl Guard, but requested by the Gov. That sure worked out well... From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:55 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political The National Guard is a state resource. I think he can request it, but I'm not sure he can command

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
What itch does it scratch for any group to create a ruckus? The fixes (if any) we be legislative in the end. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:57 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political The BLM protestors are almost completely peaceful. It's groups like b

Re: [AFMUG] ojos

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
Wow does that sound fun... From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 9:32 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ojos Surgery Overview Pneumatic retinopexy is a surgery to repair certain types of retinal detachments. It is usually an outpatient procedure, which mean

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
Well, George Soros and the Illuminati are behind all of this so when they finish their meeting on Jeff Epstein’s island I am sure they will tell the Bilderbergs what to do. Then we will truly know the lay of the land. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 9:52 AM To: af@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
I have had some precious moments with law enforcement. Luckily enough I always hand enough presence of mind to stop running my mouth before I got thrown in the car. The whole yes sir, right away sir, thank you sir has always worked for me, but I have less melanin than many folks and that see

[AFMUG] Live fiber identifier

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
Anyone have a live fiber identifier they really like?-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
Problem is, there is no source of news you can trust. They all have a bias. Actually that applies to all people, they all have a bias. So, I read CNN and MSNBC then average it with FOX and compare with RT and Al Jazzera and then if that averages with BBC I will run with that. -Original Me

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
But Huffpo and WApo get washed off in the grizzly bars. -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 11:48 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political Problem is, there is no source of news you can trust. They all have a bias.

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
I converted to being enraged. So much more classy than outrage. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 11:49 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political I would definitely not approve of a CHAZ/CHOP type thing in my neighborhood. I'm not sure what I would do about it.

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
If I want a conservative overdose sugar high, Blaze is the only way to go. -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 11:50 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political But Huffpo and WApo get washed off in the grizzly bars. -

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
The nice thing about NPR is that they are unapologetically and self admittedly "center left ". I can work with that. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 11:57 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political I would only look at RT as a source o

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
Yeah, Rachael Maddow on 2016 election evening. I was waiting to see the head either implode or explode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1jf2hOkec4 From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 11:59 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political Is there such a thing as inrage

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
And while I somewhat sympathize I do not thing the response was uncalled for. Too bad Roy got killed later on but he was really asking for it. I was shocked at the trial outcome. Years ago we had a polygamist here in Utah named Tom Green. He made the rounds of the talk shows, rubbing it up the n

Re: [AFMUG] OT : damn!

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
Legs for lunch. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 12:10 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] OT : damn! I can't keep it on this channel...will need surgery on other eye...wife is home .. ---

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
I love arguing with my kids. I will pick any position or even swap sides mid argument. Their spouses have finally figured out that I just love the debate. But the main thing I get out of it is exposure the new ideas. They get a dose of reality. One daughter in law refused to believe that on

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
No this is a girl from KY. From: Cassidy B. Larson Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 12:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political Is that the daughter in law who lives in the UK? If so, wondering if location sways her views at all. On Jul 20, 2020, at 12

Re: [AFMUG] OT - political

2020-07-20 Thread chuck
I do see some black and white. Leave my property, person and family alone. That is a bright line. And leave others alone likewise. Don’t block access to my business with your protest. And I want the government to protect that. If you are interfering with my right to do commerce, I want

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