No doubt the only difference between cops and criminals in some cases is luck.
If someone with a predisposition to cracking heads manages to not get arrested
as a youth due to dumb luck, they can find a place being a cop.
I am amused at times how police unions freak out at experiments proposed by
Berkeley. Sure, if it works they will lose some membership...
Can it all be summed up as some cops are Sheriff Taylor and others are Barney
Fife?
Perhaps too many of them work for Boss Hogg.
If more were like Sandra Bullock getting frisked could be more pleasant.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 6:38 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political
The cause is that some cops behave poorly and maybe we can do better than that.
a.. Some of them are clearly racist. There is strong statistical and
experimental evidence of this. This shouldn't actually be a controversial
thing to point out since all cops are humans and some humans are racist.
b.. Some of them are too quick to violence.
c.. Some of them actively defend and cover for their coworkers who have been
too violent or racist.
d.. A lot of them look the other way.
e.. A lot of departments have a lot of unnecessary hardware.
Some of the protesters are hooligans. Some of the cops are hooligans too.
There's plenty of video evidence to support both of those statements.
Look at the number of people killed by police per capita in the USA vs other
countries. We're not as bad as the Philippines or Syria, but we do have more
people killed by police than any of our Western allies do, both in absolute
total and per capita. I can't accept the idea that there's no real problem
here and it's just "the left" trying to trick us into voting a certain way.
On 7/19/2020 11:28 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
It's about November. It's about maintaining a constant state 9f exhaustion.
There isnt any actual cause behind it
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 7:00 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
The whole occupy whatever, set fire to whatever, irrespective of the
adopted noble cause seems like a way to get away with being hooligans and
spinning it as some form of justifiable act. I guess so they can have
bragging rights later on. I believe them to be disingenuous and hypocritical.
This says it far better than I can:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8532541/Portland-cop-calls-BLM-protesters-hypocritical-not-having-minorities-department.html
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 5:17 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political
“Peaceful protesters hold signs in support of other people” doesn’t make
the news. So most likely you are thinking of a small percentage of the
protesters, because they are the ones who make the news. I’m not saying it’s
“fake news”, just that boring news doesn’t get ratings and advertising dollars.
Also not sure what your threshold is for “misbehaving”. Spray painting
graffiti on government buildings? Probably only a few people are doing that,
but still, is that anarchy? Throwing rocks or burning stuff, yes, that
probably crosses a line. But holding up a speaker? News like this, if true
(as seems likely), is disturbing:
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/07/police-shoot-portland-protester-in-head-with-impact-weapon-causing-severe-injuries.html
What puzzles me is why you single out white kids and a noble cause as being
childish. Do you expect them to only go out and demonstrate for causes that
directly benefit them or people who look like them? Are we that polarized and
selfish now?
I live in a suburb that is mostly white middle class. But I am seeing a
lot of yard signs that say “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice
everywhere.” That’s probably the sentiment of _most_ of the protesters in
Portland. If the cops can go all Judge Dredd on George Floyd, maybe that
threatens all of us, even if the street judges aren’t coming for people that
look like us. Yet.
Maybe think back to 1978 when some Nazis wanted to march in heavily Jewish
Skokie, IL and the ACLU defended their right to free speech. Pretty much
nobody wanted marching Nazis, but if you take away their rights, whose rights
are next? (But I still laugh at the Illinois Nazis scene in Blues Brothers.)
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 5:31 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - political
www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/anti-fascist-teenagers-seeking-revolution-behind-continued-portland-riots
I don't want to encourage political threads on AFMUG but...
Some people just want to watch the world burn. Current situations in the
world mean that those people can tag onto a reason or (pretext to) join a group
or find support to help them in those desires. And somehow, a lot of those
people live around Portland?
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 3:49 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Not trying to break lent, but I am lacking understanding.
What are the young white kids rioting about in Portland?
I am from Oregon, I remember protests in the 60s and 70s over Vietnam.
I also remember a line of State Police walking through a park downtown
and busting heads of those that did not clear out. Actually one of my first
telco bosses had been one of those State Bull Cops.
Are young white kids just aching for a chance at anarchy? I don’t get it.
Misbehaving while trying to wrap some kind of noble cause around you is
pretty childish.
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