Re: Mail-Followup-To description
Frank Derichsweiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 15 May 2000: > MFT is described in the manual, yes. But the other header modifications > (e.g. myhdr ) are displayed within the editor. Therefore I would like > to see a line. "Please note, that MFT header is generated after > editing the mail just before actually transmitting it via smtp". Good idea. Why don't you submit a patch? :-) > Using list-reply, mutt knows, that I am replying to the List, > therefore could add the MFT for that list. Yes, but as you say yourself... > Yes, I could use list-reply and add cc to another list ... So it can be either one way or another, but not both. Either Mutt will check the list of recipients only at send time, or it will do it earlier. :-) > No problem with the mutt behaviour, just an idea to prevent somebody > else from spending too much time with trying to produce MFT headers ... Ahh, right. Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / cat, n.: A lap-warmer with a built-in buzzer.
mailbox sort order
I sent a similar message a week or two ago, but didn't get any responses that helped solve my problem - so I'm trying again. I have these folder-hook's defined in my muttrc: folder-hook =INBOX-Mutt set sort=reverse_date_received folder-hook =in-l-dbiusers set sort=threads folder-hook =in-l-muttusers set sort=threads I'm noticing that then I view either dbiusers or muttusers mailbox, and then go back to INBOX-Mutt, that the order of the INBOX-Mutt is *NOT* reverse_date_received like I specified - I have to manually sort it each time I go back to it. Is this the way it is supposed to work, or is there a way I can make Mutt show me INBOX-Mutt sorted by reverse_date_received each time I view it? Thanks. -- Hardy Merrill Mission Critical Linux, LLC http://www.missioncriticallinux.com
Deleting IMAP folders - is it possible?
Is there any way to delete IMAP folders (as opposed to mailboxes) using mutt? I am trying to delete a folder on my Courier IMAP server and just get the message "Cannot delete selected folder.", I'm not even sure if the message is from Courier IMAP or from mutt. In fact I'm even more confused, this isn't a folder really, it's a mailbox as all it had in it (until I deleted them all) was messages, no sub-folders. All I'm trying to do is delete the, now empty, mailbox. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Maildir support in Procmail 3.14 -- how?
Russell Hoover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 15 May 2000: > Since procmail 3.14 supports the maildir mailbox format, ... this is somewhat off-topic for this list, but well, I'll do my best to answer your question. > So how do I get the new procmail to deliver to maildirs without the previously > necessary add-ons? I know that I'm calling version 3.14 of procmail in my > .forward file, and I use the trailing slash in all recipes. This is AFAIK all you should need to do. I don't use 3.14 myself (have a patched version instead), but I have at least one success report from a net-acquintance that the Maildir support in 3.14 works. So, in other words, sounds like you're doing everything right but it doesn't work. You may want to investigate this or ask for help on a procmail list. :-) > Also -- is it still necessary with the new procmail to generate a lines header? I don't know, but I'm guessing "yes". Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / This sentence does, in fact, not have the property it claims not to have.
Default to IMAP, was Re: pkspxycwrap?
On Sun, May 14, 2000 at 10:46:23AM -0400, Chris Woodfield wrote: > > And in other news...how does one set a "default" server to use? For > example, have mutt go directly to an IMAP server instead of having to c? > to it? > Set your $folder and $spoolfile to point to your IMAP server, you might want to set $record to point there as well. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: 'browser' - what is it?
On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 04:51:34PM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote: > On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 11:43:52AM +0800, Greg Matheson wrote: > > On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 05:00:37PM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote: > > > > > On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 08:57:40AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > > In general I think I'd prefer the browser to *always* start from > > > > $folder... > > > > > There is a rather uncomfortable way to achieve this. Type > > > c?cPath/to/folder > > > > And this could be made a folder hook, couldn't it. > > Unfortunately the prompt can't be overtyped as it is with > the prompt. Does anybody know the reason for this? > Currently you would have to delete the string at the prompt first which > is kind of difficult within a macro. > As I just reported when I tried it. > A very clumsy way to do it would be > macro index c?c...[as often as > needed]/path/to/$folder\n > There's an easier way - CTRL/U deletes the whole line of input, at least it does on this system. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
$folder_format and IMAP
What would other IMAP users feel about moving the "IMAP +" field which is put in the %F field in $folder_format to somewhere else? I have two problems with it in the %F field:- 1 - With the default $folder_format it's much to far from the folder name, e.g. I get:- -> 1 IMAP ../ 2 IMAP Trash 3 IMAP bike 4 IMAP +buying. 5 IMAP family. 6 IMAP +friends. 7 IMAP internet. 8 IMAP +isbd. 9 IMAP linux. 10 IMAP regs 11 IMAP +riding. 12 IMAP sam 13 IMAP selling 14 IMAP subdir. 15 IMAP test which makes it quite difficult to spot which folders have the + against them. 2 - I'd prefer *not* to have the %F field appear at all when I'm viewing local folders, it doesn't tell me anything I want to know. I know I could sort this out using folder_hook but the defaults are a little 'un-ideal' to my mind. Could we maybe have a special format specifier for the IMAP field? Oh, and one other little moan looking at the above IMAP folder directory, those '.' characters indicating a folder with sub-folders, is there any way to choose a more visible character? -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
What does the 'X' mean?
Every message I receieve has an 'X' in the column where the status is displayed. It's right next to the 'N' (new message) or the reply (r) designation. What does the 'X' mean? I think it first showed up around the time I was changing .muttrc files. I don't know if that has something to do with it or not. Thanks, Kelly
Re: mailbox sort order
Hardy Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 15 May 2000: > folder-hook =INBOX-Mutt set sort=reverse_date_received > folder-hook =in-l-dbiusers set sort=threads > folder-hook =in-l-muttusers set sort=threads > > I'm noticing that then I view either dbiusers or muttusers > mailbox, and then go back to INBOX-Mutt, that the order > of the INBOX-Mutt is *NOT* reverse_date_received like > I specified - I have to manually sort it each time I > go back to it. This would indicate that the folder-hook is not executing, for whatever reason. It certainly should set the sort order if it does execute. You may want to try drop the = from the folder-hook patterns, so it'll match only against the folder's name, not the full path. Of course, the hook will then match any folder called "INBOX-Mutt" in your system, but I'm guessing you only have one such folder. Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / "OK, I'm weird, but I'm saving up to be eccentric."
Mail-Followup-To description
Hi List, after trying to generate MFT headers and finally setting up a test list, I would like to suggest to add the following to the manual: Using list-reply will produce a MFT header (iff followup_to is set) just before sending the mail. The MFT header is *NOT* shown in the mail editor. Feature wish: IMHO it would be better to generate it in oder to be able to "see" it within the mail editor. Or is it possible by setting a variable? I know I could set a myhdr field, but ... Just my 2 cent Frank PS Congratulations for the new 1.2i release!!!
Re: 'browser' - what is it?
On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 11:43:52AM +0800, Greg Matheson wrote: > On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 05:00:37PM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote: > > > On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 08:57:40AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > In general I think I'd prefer the browser to *always* start from > > > $folder... > > > There is a rather uncomfortable way to achieve this. Type > > c?cPath/to/folder > > And this could be made a folder hook, couldn't it. I had the > opposite problem. I wanted to get back to the place in the > mailboxes screen I had just been so I now have 38 folder-hooks in > my .muttrc of the form: > > folder-hook . 'macro index h ?0' > folder-hook '!' 'macro index h ?1' > folder-hook =tn 'macro index h ?2' > Yes, that's OK if the folders are relatively unchanging. I did experiment with a dummy folder in my local hierarchy called 'remote' or some such that had a folder hook to change to the remote IMAP server. With the extra ideas I now have about using the browser I may resurrect this idea. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Maildir support in Procmail 3.14 -- how?
Since procmail 3.14 supports the maildir mailbox format, I would assume that means, using it with mutt, that I can get rid of the maildir.c delivery program I've been using for the last couple of years, and that I can change my procmail recipes from one like this: :0 * ^TO.*mutt-(users|users-request) |maildir Mail/m/ to one like this: :0 * ^TO.*mutt-(users|users-request) ~/Mail/m/ and have things work smoothly. But when I get rid of maildir.c and remove "|maildir " from the recipes, all my messages end up in the ~/Mail/m/ directory *alongside* the cur/, new/ and tmp/ subdirectories, not *inside* any of them, as they should. So how do I get the new procmail to deliver to maildirs without the previously necessary add-ons? I know that I'm calling version 3.14 of procmail in my .forward file, and I use the trailing slash in all recipes. Also -- is it still necessary with the new procmail to generate a lines header? In other words, can I remove the following from my .procmailrc? # --- # Generate a "Lines:" header # (needed for maildir mailbox format) # Only msg-body lines are counted (not the hdrs): :0 bw LINES=|wc -l | tr -d " " :0 fhw |formail -a "Lines: $LINES" # --- Thanks. -- // [EMAIL PROTECTED] //
Re: mailbox sort order
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 09:01:13AM -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote: > I sent a similar message a week or two ago, but didn't get > any responses that helped solve my problem - so I'm trying > again. I have these folder-hook's defined in my muttrc: > > folder-hook =INBOX-Mutt set sort=reverse_date_received > folder-hook =in-l-dbiusers set sort=threads > folder-hook =in-l-muttusers set sort=threads > > I'm noticing that then I view either dbiusers or muttusers > mailbox, and then go back to INBOX-Mutt, that the order > of the INBOX-Mutt is *NOT* reverse_date_received like > I specified - I have to manually sort it each time I > go back to it. The sort option is 'reverse-date-received' try this one. BTW you could shorten is one by: folder-hook . set sort=threads # if this is what you want folder-hook =INBOX-Mutt set sort=reverse-date-received When you alter options with hooks you normally want to set a default, that 'resets' your option. Michael -- You have junk mail. PGP-fingerprint: DECA E9D2 EBDD 0FE0 0A65 40FA 5967 ACA1 0B57 7C13
double mutt-users messages
This has happened to me a few times - probably another stupid mistake. I've always had the same email address([EMAIL PROTECTED]) since I've been using mutt, but sometimes I start receiving the same message twice - I get every message on the mutt-users list twice. I've tried unsubscribing, and then subscribing, and each time I get the same result. This was probably caused by "me" - when I switched over to mutt from netscape(IMAP), I had a problem with sendmail - which may have caused me to be subscribed to the list under a different domain. Is there a way to see if I'm subscribed under more than one domain? Thanks. -- Hardy Merrill Mission Critical Linux, LLC http://www.missioncriticallinux.com
Re: Error Compiling 1.2 : Configure aborts if $MAIL is not set correctly
On 2000-05-14 22:34:02 +0200, Rainer Gubanski wrote: > What to do in such an "IMAP only" case ? Use homespool > or let $MAIL point to an existing directory? This would, for instance, work. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: The browser (again!) - now I know what I need, but is it possible?
On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 11:26:32AM +0800, billy chan wrote: > [00.05.12 15:09] Chris Green > > Thus I want a way to specify the directory at the times when one > > enters the browser, there are already some special characters > > recognised here (e.g. '?') so it should be possible to have a new > > special character which prompts for a 'start-browsing-at' directory. > > > > This would be useful in various ways I think, especially if one wants > > to switch back and forth between IMAP folders and local folders. It > > would also be useful if one has two sets of 'local' mail folders deep > > down two different directory hierarchies. > > Not sure what I'm doing is what you want. I created some symbolic links > under the mail folder to directories holding my saved posts and my own > posts in the newsgroups. When I want to switch back and forth, I change > folder by "c" and "=" or "=" bring me to the default. > > It's possible to set folder= which holds the only > symbolic links to different mail directories. "c=" will bring > you back to the topmost hierarchy. > Yes, I realised that was a possible method when navigating a complex local hierarchy. It doesn't work for IMAP folders on a remote system though. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: mailbox sort order
Dave Ewart [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On Monday, 15.05.2000 at 09:01 -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote: > > > I sent a similar message a week or two ago, but didn't get > > any responses that helped solve my problem - so I'm trying > > again. I have these folder-hook's defined in my muttrc: > > > > folder-hook =INBOX-Mutt set sort=reverse_date_received > > folder-hook =in-l-dbiusers set sort=threads > > folder-hook =in-l-muttusers set sort=threads > > > > I'm noticing that then I view either dbiusers or muttusers > > mailbox, and then go back to INBOX-Mutt, that the order > > of the INBOX-Mutt is *NOT* reverse_date_received like > > I specified - I have to manually sort it each time I > > go back to it. > > If you've pasted those lines straight from your .muttrc, then I can see the > problem: you need to use "-", not "_" in "reverse-date-received". Thank you very much! That's not the first(nor will it be the last) stupid mistake I've made ;-) > > If that's not the problem, are you setting a default folder sort order > anywhere? > > e.g. > > folder-hook . set sort=date-sent > > Dave. > -- > Dave Ewart > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Computing Manager > ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK -- Hardy Merrill Mission Critical Linux, LLC http://www.missioncriticallinux.com
Re: Maildir vs mbox (was Re: Maildir support in Procmail 3.14 -- how?)
Chris Gushue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 15 May 2000: > How much > of a speed difference would there be between that and mbox? I think this is really rather subjective and per-system issue, whatever figures someone else might come up with on their system might be totally off the mark on yours. My recommendation is that you try it out, it's not that difficult to copy all messages from an mbox folder to a Maildir and then compare speeds of opening those. Although I'm not sure how you could compare the speeds without filesystem buffering (to simulate a situation when you open the folder after some longer time). Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / I tried to get a life once, but they were out of stock.
Re: Maildir support in Procmail 3.14 -- how?
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 05:17:47AM -0400, Russell Hoover wrote: > Since procmail 3.14 supports the maildir mailbox format, I would assume that > means, using it with mutt, that I can get rid of the maildir.c delivery program > I've been using for the last couple of years, > > and that I can change my procmail recipes from one like this: > > :0 > * ^TO.*mutt-(users|users-request) > |maildir Mail/m/ > > to one like this: > > :0 > * ^TO.*mutt-(users|users-request) > ~/Mail/m/ > > and have things work smoothly. But when I get rid of maildir.c and remove > "|maildir " from the recipes, all my messages end up in the ~/Mail/m/ directory > *alongside* the cur/, new/ and tmp/ subdirectories, not *inside* any of them, as > they should. > > So how do I get the new procmail to deliver to maildirs without the previously > necessary add-ons? I know that I'm calling version 3.14 of procmail in my > .forward file, and I use the trailing slash in all recipes. > Well my copy of procmail 3.14 is delivering happily to maildirs. In my .prcmailrc I have:- MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail/lists :0: * ^TOmutt mutt/ [plus lots more rules of course] -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Still alive?
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 01:48:29AM +0200, clemensF muttered: > > Mikko Hänninen (Mon 15.0500-00:40): > > clemensF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Sun, 14 May 2000: > > > can this be done: everyone may optionally supply a "backup" email-address > > > which unsubscribe notification are forwarded to, so one at least knows > > > what's happening? > > > > Hmmm, Majordomo doesn't support something like that. Sorry. > > does anybody know of a list manager with this functionality? this could > prove important for desparate people... EZMLM (http://www.ezmlm.org/) warns users for which messages bounce and eventually removes them from the subscriber list ... So, at least you get a warning (though not on a secondary address) but you'll get the warnings / bounce messages evenually HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: mailbox sort order
On Monday, 15.05.2000 at 09:48 -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote: > > > folder-hook =INBOX-Mutt set sort=reverse_date_received > > > folder-hook =in-l-dbiusers set sort=threads > > > folder-hook =in-l-muttusers set sort=threads > > > > If you've pasted those lines straight from your .muttrc, then I can see the > > problem: you need to use "-", not "_" in "reverse-date-received". > > Thank you very much! That's not the first(nor will it be the > last) stupid mistake I've made ;-) Glad to be of assistance. I'm suprised no-one (myself included) picked it up the last time you posted it. Are we all asleep? (Rhetorical!) Dave. -- Dave Ewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computing Manager ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK
turning off the debug option, how??
Hello folks, How do I turn off the debugging support option when compiling? There is a --enable-debug, I've tried --disable-debug but it didn't work. ->+DEBUG latt:11:21:~ > mutt -v Mutt 1.2i (2000-05-09) Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.2.14 [using ncurses 1.9.9g] Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +USE_FCNTL +USE_FLOCK -USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL -USE_POP +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +ENABLE_NLS SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail" MAILPATH="/var/spool/mail" SHAREDIR="/home/frandebo/prog/local//share/mutt" SYSCONFDIR="/home/frandebo/prog/local//etc" ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell" To contact the developers, please mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. To report a bug, please use the muttbug utility. configure comand used: ./configure --with-included-zlib --prefix=/home/frandebo/prog/local/ --enable-locales-fix --with-charmaps --enable-nfs-fix cheers, -- Francisco. São Paulo, Brasil. __o `\<, _(*)/(*)_
Re: bind pager Q query
> Mikko Hänninen (Mon 15.0500-05:31): > > What're you trying to do? More specifically, what do you want to happen > when Q is pressed in the pager? isnt bound in the sense of external-query? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait if you dont get mail within a week, you in trouble. if you dont get mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
Re: Maildir support in Procmail 3.14 -- how?
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 05:17:47AM -0400, Russell Hoover wrote: > I know that I'm calling version 3.14 of procmail in my > .forward file, and I use the trailing slash in all recipes. Well, you're calling procmail from your .forward file? Which version of procmail is the system wide one? is procmail used by the local sendmail to deliver local eMail? If so does it really use the 3.14? cu. -- Christian Ordig | Homepage: http://thor.prohosting.com/~chrordig/ Germany |eMail: Christian Ordig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP signature
Re: bind pager Q query
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 04:21:54AM +0200, clemensF wrote: > why, o why does "bind pager Q query" in .muttrc always give errors like "no > such function"? Q should be bound to the external query function by default. (at least I didn't have to bind it manually) Have you supplied the externel query command to be called when Q is pressed? set query_command="your_command '%s'" %s is the query string typed in mutt... your program/script has to read it and has to "answer" to mutt in the following format: - SNIP This is superquery... xyz records found! [EMAIL PROTECTED]Full Name Comment [EMAIL PROTECTED]Full Name Comment - SNAP A (\t) character is to be used for seperating the columns. cu. -- Christian Ordig | Homepage: http://thor.prohosting.com/~chrordig/ Germany |eMail: Christian Ordig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP signature
Re: mailbox sort order
On Monday, 15.05.2000 at 09:01 -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote: > I sent a similar message a week or two ago, but didn't get > any responses that helped solve my problem - so I'm trying > again. I have these folder-hook's defined in my muttrc: > > folder-hook =INBOX-Mutt set sort=reverse_date_received > folder-hook =in-l-dbiusers set sort=threads > folder-hook =in-l-muttusers set sort=threads > > I'm noticing that then I view either dbiusers or muttusers > mailbox, and then go back to INBOX-Mutt, that the order > of the INBOX-Mutt is *NOT* reverse_date_received like > I specified - I have to manually sort it each time I > go back to it. If you've pasted those lines straight from your .muttrc, then I can see the problem: you need to use "-", not "_" in "reverse-date-received". If that's not the problem, are you setting a default folder sort order anywhere? e.g. folder-hook . set sort=date-sent Dave. -- Dave Ewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computing Manager ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK
Re: Deleting IMAP folders - is it possible?
* Chris Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000515 15:19]: > Is there any way to delete IMAP folders > (as opposed to mailboxes) using mutt? Not sure - IMAP is not listed with the description to "save_empty" (see below). The section "4.11. IMAP Support (OPTIONAL)" of the manual needs an update. Anyone? Sven [no IMAP mailbox to test this] === The Mutt E-Mail Client by Michael Elkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> version 1.2 6.3.168. save_empty -- Type: boolean -- Default: yes When unset, mailboxes which contain no saved messages will be removed when closed (the exception is ``spoolfile'' which is never removed). If set, mailboxes are never removed. Note: This only applies to mbox and MMDF folders, Mutt does not delete MH and Maildir directories.
REs for folder-hook
I am trying to set my folder_format using folder-hook, I'm having
terrible trouble generating any RE that matches a folder at all at the
moment.
In my muttrc I have:-
folder-hook . 'set folder_format="%N %7s %f"'
which works OK, I do get that folder_format, for *everything*!
The question is how to match a remote IMAP folder name, the folder
name will always start "{x-1.net:50143}" but whatever I try doesn't
seem to work. I have even tried matching some local folders but I
can't get them to work either.
I have triend
folder-hook x-1 'set folder_format="%N %F %f"'
folder-hook 50143 'set folder_format="%N %F %f"'
folder-hook .x-1 'set folder_format="%N %F %f"'
folder-hook ^{ 'set folder_format="%N %F %f"a
which I found in one of the sample muttrc files just produces an
error.
I also tried:-
folder-hook AFM 'set folder_format="%N %F %f"'
to match a local folder called AFM but that didn't work either.
I am fairly familiar with REs. However it's not clear (to me) from
the mutt documetnation how the folder-hook REs are supposed to
matchshould they match anywhere in the folder name or do they always
start matching from the first character? Also does one have to match
the whole string?
Oh, and yes, I do have the '.' folder-hook command first.
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Re: Maildir vs mbox
Mikko Hänninen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Chris Gushue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 15 May 2000: > > How much > > of a speed difference would there be between that and mbox? > > I think this is really rather subjective and per-system issue, whatever > figures someone else might come up with on their system might be totally > off the mark on yours. My recommendation is that you try it out, it's > not that difficult to copy all messages from an mbox folder to a Maildir > and then compare speeds of opening those. I decided to give it a try (nothing better than first-hand experience), and there doesn't seem to be any difference in the speed of opening a folder. But I only have a week or so of mail to test it on, at most around 200 messages in a folder. I did notice a nice difference in the speed of closing a folder, when it updates what mail is read or not. Right now I only have a really old and slow hard drive, I'm sure that is affecting it :) I guess I'll notice how much of a difference there is at the end of the month just before procmail starts sorting mail into ~/mail/2000/06 > Although I'm not sure how you could compare the speeds without > filesystem buffering (to simulate a situation when you open the folder > after some longer time). -- Thank you, Bill Cosby, you saved the Simpsons! -- Homer Simpson Saturdays of Thunder
Re: Still alive?
> Steffan Hoeke (Mon 15.0500-12:02): > > EZMLM (http://www.ezmlm.org/) warns users for which messages bounce and > eventually removes them from the subscriber list ... exactly what i would like to be used by... -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait if you dont get mail within a week, you in trouble. if you dont get mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
Re: turning off the debug option, how??
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 11:31:18AM -0300, Francisco D. Borges wrote: > > Hello folks, > > > How do I turn off the debugging support option when compiling? > There is a --enable-debug, I've tried --disable-debug but it didn't work. > > configure comand used: > ./configure --with-included-zlib --prefix=/home/frandebo/prog/local/ > --enable-locales-fix --with-charmaps --enable-nfs-fix > after configuring the program you can easyly modify the Makefile... or you simply strip the mutt binary after building it. -- Christian Ordig | Homepage: http://thor.prohosting.com/~chrordig/ Germany |eMail: Christian Ordig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP signature
Re: Still alive?
Sorry, But i'm not exactly sure what you want/mean :-( Bye, Steffan On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 06:39:05PM +0200, clemensF muttered: > > Steffan Hoeke (Mon 15.0500-12:02): > > > > EZMLM (http://www.ezmlm.org/) warns users for which messages bounce and > > eventually removes them from the subscriber list ... > > exactly what i would like to be used by... > > -- > clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] > do D4685B884894C483 > gpg recv-key 0x9 > echo `gpg list-key 0x9` | \ > gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ > mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` > wait > if you dont get mail within a week, you in trouble. > if you dont get mail after a month, i in trouble. > please check > done > -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: mailbox sort order
> Dave Ewart (Mon 15.0500-14:36): > > If you've pasted those lines straight from your .muttrc, then I can see the > problem: you need to use "-", not "_" in "reverse-date-received". you see, a mechanic could get fired for _- > 0.5 ! -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait if you dont get mail within a week, you in trouble. if you dont get mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
What `resend-message' do?? (It's not in 1.2 manual)
Shouldn't it REsend the edited message??? I'm sending one message to myself (which I receive accordingly) but if I go the sent-mail folder and ``resend-message'' I don't receive a new copy. Since this function is NOT listed in the manual: What exactly does the `resend-message' function?? -- Francisco. São Paulo, Brasil. __o `\<, _(*)/(*)_
Re: Deleting IMAP folders - is it possible?
> Chris Green (Mon 15.0500-15:39): > Is there any way to delete IMAP folders (as opposed to mailboxes) > using mutt? if you enjoy the neccessary priviledges on the place hosting your imap-folders, it should work, n'est-ce-pas? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait if you dont get mail within a week, you in trouble. if you dont get mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
Re: Deleting IMAP folders - is it possible?
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 07:19:44PM +0200, clemensF wrote: > > Chris Green (Mon 15.0500-15:39): > > Is there any way to delete IMAP folders (as opposed to mailboxes) > > using mutt? > > if you enjoy the neccessary priviledges on the place hosting your > imap-folders, it should work, n'est-ce-pas? > Well I should do, the IMAP server is running as a user process, all the files are in my user area and all the files are owned and writeable by me. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Controlling default in save command?
How does one control the default string that's populated when you save a message? Or in my case, not have one? At the moment (usint the default .muttrc), the default is "=". My ideal would be the default to be the argument given with the last save command (like pine)... -Chris --- Christopher A. Woodfield[EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger for public PGP key 0xB887618B - email for fingerprint
Re: Mutt and address books
> Mikko Hänninen (Mon 15.0500-00:58): > be integrated with Mutt with the external-query command in any address excuse me: whats the name of "the external-query command"? gives errors (in 1.0.1). -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait [encrypted] return mail within a week. no return mail within a week, you in trouble. no return mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
Re: Deleting IMAP folders - is it possible?
> Chris Green (Mon 15.0500-18:29): > Well I should do, the IMAP server is running as a user process, all > the files are in my user area and all the files are owned and > writeable by me. what does the imap protocol say? does mutt send a valid delete-request? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait [encrypted] return mail. no return mail within a week, you in trouble. no return mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
Re: Controlling default in save command?
You could use save-hook with, for example save-hook "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" +target or save-hook "~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]" +target or save-hook "~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]" +target Take a look at http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-3.html#ss3.14 HTH, Steffan On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 01:51:19PM -0400, Chris Woodfield muttered: > How does one control the default string that's populated when you save a > message? Or in my case, not have one? At the moment (usint the default > .muttrc), the default is "=". > > My ideal would be the default to be the argument given with the last save > command (like pine)... > > -Chris > > --- > Christopher A. Woodfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Finger for public PGP key 0xB887618B - email for fingerprint -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Mutt and address books
clemensF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 15 May 2000: > > Mikko Hänninen (Mon 15.0500-00:58): > > be integrated with Mutt with the external-query command in any address > > excuse me: whats the name of "the external-query command"? > gives errors (in 1.0.1). Ahh. What you're looking for is "complete-query" in the editor context (Mutt's own internal line editor). By default, it's bound to ctrl-T So you can press ^T at any prompt where you're supposed to give an email address, and it'll launch the external program. The program which is used is set with the $query_command Mutt variable. If you want to use something else than ^T, it's set with a line such as this: bind editor ^T complete-query (replace ^T in the above with your keybinding of choice) Hope this helps, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / Some people wouldn't recognize subtlety if it hit them on the head.
Re: Mutt and address books
> Mikko Hänninen (Mon 15.0500-22:05): > > bind editor ^T complete-query > > Ahh. Ahh. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait [encrypted] return mail. no return mail within a week, you in trouble. no return mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
Re: REs for folder-hook
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 04:42:51PM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> I am trying to set my folder_format using folder-hook, I'm having
> terrible trouble generating any RE that matches a folder at all at the
> moment.
>
> folder-hook . 'set folder_format="%N %7s %f"'
>
> which works OK, I do get that folder_format, for *everything*!
> The question is how to match a remote IMAP folder name, the folder
> name will always start "{x-1.net:50143}" but whatever I try doesn't
> seem to work. I have even tried matching some local folders but I
> can't get them to work either.
>
> I have triend
> folder-hook x-1 'set folder_format="%N %F %f"'
> folder-hook 50143 'set folder_format="%N %F %f"'
> folder-hook .x-1 'set folder_format="%N %F %f"'
> folder-hook ^{ 'set folder_format="%N %F %f"a
Sorry, I don't know about IMAP, but ...
>
> I also tried:-
> folder-hook AFM 'set folder_format="%N %F %f"'
> to match a local folder called AFM but that didn't work either.
... this one should work. I just tested
folder-hook box ...
to match =inbox. It works, so obviouly you only need to match a
substring of the foldername, which is the desired behavior since we're
talking about regexp. To be more specific a substring of the PATH.
folder-hook in ...
matches =inbox aswell as =mailinglists/MUTT
^^ ^^
Consequently
folder-hook me ...
matches every folder located somewhere under /home
^^
Therefore, to match folders in your $folder you should always use a '='
in front of the foldername.
> I am fairly familiar with REs. However it's not clear (to me) from
> the mutt documetnation how the folder-hook REs are supposed to
> match should they match anywhere in the folder name or do they always
> start matching from the first character? Also does one have to match
> the whole string?
s.a.
>From the manual:
3.5 Setting variables based upon mailbox
Usage: folder-hook [!]regexp command
[snip]
and regexp being described as:
4.1 Regular Expressions
All string patterns in Mutt including those in more complex patterns
must be specified using regular expressions (regexp) in the `POSIX
extended'' syntax (which is more or less the syntax used by egrep and
GNU awk).
[snip]
all tested with mutt-1.2 which shouldn't matter anyway.
Michael
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Re: REs for folder-hook
Chris Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 15 May 2000:
> The question is how to match a remote IMAP folder name, the folder
> name will always start "{x-1.net:50143}" but whatever I try doesn't
> seem to work. I have even tried matching some local folders but I
> can't get them to work either.
>
> I have triend
> folder-hook x-1 'set folder_format="%N %F %f"'
> folder-hook 50143 'set folder_format="%N %F %f"'
> folder-hook .x-1 'set folder_format="%N %F %f"'
Someone already answered the rest of your email (I hope that helped),
I'll just comment that someone filed a bug-report with folder-hooks and
IMAP mailboxes awhile ago. I don't have the email anymore so I can't
check, but it had something to do with the {} in the IMAP folder names
getting interpreted the wrong way, and consequently causing problems
for (read: making impossible to use) folder-hooks with IMAP folders.
Hopefully the issue is sorted out soon. If it was a real issue --
just because there is a bug report doesn't mean there really is a bug,
I've seen plenty of cases where in the end the issue has been a
configuration or site-depended problem. But your problems with the
hooks certainly would seem to indicate it's a real bug, that's not
impossible either.
Mikko
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This sentence does, in fact, not have the property it claims not to have.
Colors and regex matching
Is it possible to match against a regex but not color the entire regex? This could be useful if I need to match against something before my regex to ensure that I have a good match, but I don't want to color that initial text. -- Bob BellCompaq Computer Corporation Software Engineer 110 Spit Brook Rd - ZKO3-3U/14 TruCluster GroupNashua, NH 03062-2698 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 603-884-0595
Re: What `resend-message' do?? (It's not in 1.2 manual)
Francisco D. Borges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 15 May 2000: > Shouldn't it REsend the edited message??? I'm sending one message to myself > (which I receive accordingly) but if I go the sent-mail folder and > ``resend-message'' I don't receive a new copy. You should, if you actually sent the message. > What exactly does the `resend-message' function?? It will take the current message and start composing a new message using that as a "template" -- your email will have the same headers and the same body (and attachements) as that email. Also note that there is no Fcc set for the email by default. That could be considered a bug, or a mis-feature at least... Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / If you don't care where you're going, you're never lost.
silly ass question - quoted mailname
Why is my name quoted "Bob Waskosky" in the From: line of my sent emails? Any ideas how to get rid of the quotes? I added MAILNAME='Bob Waskosky' in my .bash_profile but it still ends up quoted. See From: line above. Thanks -- ** Bob Waskosky Homepage: http://www.nobhead.com/perl/ USAemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
Re: What `resend-message' do?? (It's not in 1.2 manual)
» Mikko Hänninen wrote: > Francisco D. Borges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 15 May 2000: > > Shouldn't it REsend the edited message??? I'm sending one message to myself > > (which I receive accordingly) but if I go the sent-mail folder and > > ``resend-message'' I don't receive a new copy. > > You should, if you actually sent the message. the message was not sent, that I know for sure (I looked at the mail log's). The weird thing here is that after editing the message, I was delivered at the index of the folder where I was, not to the compose_mode of that message. Is there some variable that might be causing this? I already have: set abort_unmodified=no # Let me send empty messages > > What exactly does the `resend-message' function?? > > It will take the current message and start composing a new message using > that as a "template" -- your email will have the same headers and the > same body (and attachements) as that email. > > Also note that there is no Fcc set for the email by default. That could > be considered a bug, or a mis-feature at least... Thank you for the info, now I just got to learn how to do it... cheers, -- Francisco. São Paulo, Brasil. __o `\<, _(*)/(*)_
Re: What `resend-message' do?? (It's not in 1.2 manual)
Francisco D. Borges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 15 May 2000: > the message was not sent, that I know for sure (I looked at the mail log's). Okay, I suppose that's pretty authoritative. :-) > The weird thing here is that after editing the message, I was delivered at the > index of the folder where I was, not to the compose_mode of that message. > Is there some variable that might be causing this? Hmmm. It *sounds* like what's happening is that you're running the "edit" function, which recalls the raw message into your editor (with every header, you can tell easily if there are Received headers, although if it's a Fcc message then there wouldn't be any), saves any changes you make and replaces the original in the mailbox with your edited message. With this, you're not supposed to go to the compose menu at all after you exit the editor. Could that be it? In case you wonder, the purpose of that function is so you can manually make changes to the message in the mailbox. For example, if there is a header you want to change. It goes without saying that you must "know what you are doing" with this function. resend-message and edit used to be the bizarrely the same function. You could either choose to resend the message, or to write it back to the folder with a special command. With Mutt 1.2, the functions have been separated and they both do their jobs much better. Maybe you have some strange keybindings left over from a pre-1.2 setup? Hope this helps, Mikko PS. Your Mail-Followup-To header is a bit messed up in your emails... -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / If I could offer you only one tip for the future, sunscreen would be it.
Re: silly ass question - quoted mailname
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 04:22:29PM -0500, Bob Waskosky wrote: > Why is my name quoted "Bob Waskosky" in the From: line of my sent emails? Any ideas >how to get rid of the quotes? > > I added MAILNAME='Bob Waskosky' in my .bash_profile but it still ends up quoted. See >From: line above. > > Thanks Nevermind. Did it with mutt instead of in the .bash_profile. -- ** Bob Waskosky Homepage: http://www.nobhead.com/perl/ USAemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
Re: Deleting IMAP folders - is it possible?
Chris -- ...and then Chris Green said... % On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 07:19:44PM +0200, clemensF wrote: % > % > if you enjoy the neccessary priviledges on the place hosting your % > % Well I should do, the IMAP server is running as a user process, all % the files are in my user area and all the files are owned and % writeable by me. Please forgive me for stating the obvious, but is the imapd running in the user space actually running with your UID, and doess it expect to be in the user space (or at least be happy) and not try to do some fancy change-euid for file manipulation? % % -- % Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) % Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] % WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/ :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: pkspxycwrap?
* On Sun, May 14, 2000 at 10:46:23AM -0400, Chris Woodfield wrote: > What is this and where does one find it? It's in the pgp6.rc file: > > # fetch keys > set pgp_getkeys_command="pkspxycwrap %r" > > ... but it sure as tootin' ain't in MY distribution of pgp v6...and I get > a "command not found" error every time I try to decrypt or verify a > signature. > The program is 'pkspxyc', a PKS 'smart' client that works with PKS proxy servers. I believe a space is missing, and that 'wrap' stands alone. Cheers... -- Alex Lane * Seabrook, Texas, USA -*- [EMAIL PROTECTED] * www.galexi.com/alex/ DH/DSS PGP keyID: 0xD94803CD -*- RSA PGP keyID: 0xCABD6FF9 No difference plus no difference plus no difference plus . . . eventually equals a clear difference. (The Fast Food Fallacy)
Re: What `resend-message' do?? (It's not in 1.2 manual)
> Mikko Hänninen (Tue 16.0500-00:15): > > What exactly does the `resend-message' function?? > > It will take the current message and start composing a new message using > that as a "template" -- your email will have the same headers and the > same body (and attachements) as that email. so this is the former (1.0.1) function? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address`
Re: REs for folder-hook
Mikko, et al --
...and then Mikko Hänninen said...
% Chris Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 15 May 2000:
% > The question is how to match a remote IMAP folder name, the folder
% > name will always start "{x-1.net:50143}" but whatever I try doesn't
% >
% > folder-hook x-1 'set folder_format="%N %F %f"'
% > folder-hook 50143 'set folder_format="%N %F %f"'
% > folder-hook .x-1 'set folder_format="%N %F %f"'
I don't see why these wouldn't work, since they're the same format as my
brother ended up using (see below). Then, again, it's late for me...
%
% I'll just comment that someone filed a bug-report with folder-hooks and
% IMAP mailboxes awhile ago. I don't have the email anymore so I can't
% check, but it had something to do with the {} in the IMAP folder names
I mentioned that, though not as a specific bug report. {} are special
characters for a regex, and so you can't match on them (*that* perhaps
due to a bug, since it should be escapable *somehow*). My brother found
this problem when trying out IMAP folders and folder-hooks, and he ended
up simply matching a sufficiently unique substring and going from there.
:-D
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2 IMAP questions again
Hi,
I set my one of my mailbox to: mailboxes = {127.0.0.1}mail/debian
and now when I involke mutt with -y option, I can view the
debian folder. But according to the doc, 1.12 supports browsing
mailboxes on an IMAP server, so how do I actually do this?
My second question is when I delete a mail accessing via IMAP,
it creates an annoying message, something like:
DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER
This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder,
and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system
software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be
re-created with the data reset to initial values.
How can I avoid this?
Thanks again.
Shao.
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Re: C-c C-c
On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 11:36:38PM +0200, Stephane Payrard wrote: > On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 06:23:58AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 11:32:57PM -0400, Jonathan Pennington wrote: > > -> Again with the lost configs. I used to just type that sequence after > > -> writing an email and emacs would save and exit, automagically > > -> releasing control to Mutt. Unfortunately, now I have to explicitily > > -> exit before continuing. Does anyone know what I want to adjust to > > -> make the sequence C-c C-c (or any sequence for that matter) do this > > -> automagically again? I know that this is really a .emacs question, but > > -> I thought it was in post.el, so it's a Mutt specific .emacs question > > -> :-) > > > > Rather than firing up Emacs and exiting it every time you want to use it, > > fire up Emacs once per login and shut it down when you log out. It means > > access to files is much faster. > > > > In Mutt, set your editor to emacsclient: > > > > set editor="emacsclient"# editor to use when composing messages > > You can also set the VISUAL or EDITOR variable that buy you the same > feature (popping a emacs buffer to edit stuff) for many tools at once. > > > > > and use C-x # to exit. You can do other tricks by building an elisp > > function which would call "server-exit", the function C-X # calls. For > > example, one of these days I will get around to writing a function like > > you also need the following line in ~/.emacs to enable the server part > at emacs startup: > > (gnuserv-start) > For vi lovers this can all be done in a similar way with xvile, I use it all the time, the equivalent to 'emacslient' is 'vileget'. It's slightly cleverer than the above in fact, if vileget can't find a running xvile it starts one up for you. [x]vile is my vi clone of choice, it's actually based on an emacs engine, has most of the goodies that emacs gives you but is close enough to 'real' vi to present no problems when moving from vi to xvile and back. It also has perl scripting built into it if you want. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Mail-Followup-To description
Frank Derichsweiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 15 May 2000: > Using list-reply will produce a MFT header (iff followup_to is set) > just before sending the mail. The MFT header is *NOT* shown in the > mail editor. > > Feature wish: > IMHO it would be better to generate it in oder to be able to "see" it > within the mail editor. I think this is explained in the manual, but I'm not sure... Anyway, the reason why it's only added at sending time is so that Mutt doesn't know before that whether you're sending the email to some mailing list or not. When Mutt is sending the mail, it looks if any of the addresses are mailing lists -- if there are, it'll generate the MFT header accordingly. If you think about this for a moment you will see the logic in this behaviour. Mutt also won't of course generate a MFT header if one already exists (is supplied by user). I have been thinking that it would be useful to have a feature in Mutt for "stamping" the email with a MFT header, based on the current recipient list. Ie. not have Mutt do this by default before sending, but giving the user the option to automatically generate the MFT header into the email with a manual (or macro-ed?) command. In the rare cases where I want to modify the MFT header, this would save some typing... Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / Funny off-topic messages are always on-topic.
Re: Still alive?
> Mikko Hänninen (Mon 15.0500-00:40): > clemensF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Sun, 14 May 2000: > > can this be done: everyone may optionally supply a "backup" email-address > > which unsubscribe notification are forwarded to, so one at least knows > > what's happening? > > Hmmm, Majordomo doesn't support something like that. Sorry. does anybody know of a list manager with this functionality? this could prove important for desparate people... -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail-Followup-To description
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 12:29:02PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote: > Frank Derichsweiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, >15 May 2000: > > Using list-reply will produce a MFT header (iff followup_to is set) > > just before sending the mail. The MFT header is *NOT* shown in the > > mail editor. > > > > Feature wish: > > IMHO it would be better to generate it in oder to be able to "see" it > > within the mail editor. > > I think this is explained in the manual, but I'm not sure... MFT is described in the manual, yes. But the other header modifications (e.g. myhdr ) are displayed within the editor. Therefore I would like to see a line. "Please note, that MFT header is generated after editing the mail just before actually transmitting it via smtp". > Anyway, > the reason why it's only added at sending time is so that Mutt doesn't > know before that whether you're sending the email to some mailing list > or not. Using list-reply, mutt knows, that I am replying to the List, therefore could add the MFT for that list. > When Mutt is sending the mail, it looks if any of the addresses > are mailing lists -- if there are, it'll generate the MFT header > accordingly. If you think about this for a moment you will see the > logic in this behaviour. Yes, I could use list-reply and add cc to another list ... No problem with the mutt behaviour, just an idea to prevent somebody else from spending too much time with trying to produce MFT headers ...
Maildir vs mbox (was Re: Maildir support in Procmail 3.14 -- how?)
Maildir is sounding more interesting to me all the time, with support for it in procmail (can't remember if I knew about that before or not). How much of a speed difference would there be between that and mbox? I'm currently reading my mail on my 486 Linux box, and speed would be the main issue. I guess Maildir would have other advantages as well... The original reason I was using mbox was so that I could switch between Eudora and some Linux client easily, but now that I have a dedicated Linux box that's not a problem :) -- Homer: You can let him down gently, but over the next couple of months, I want you to break it off. Marge: Um, okay, Homer. Homer: Whoof! That was a close one, kids. Another Simpsons Clip Show
Re: 'browser' - what is it?
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 05:00:37PM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote: > On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 08:57:40AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > In general I think I'd prefer the browser to *always* start from > > $folder or, even better, from some user-definable directory. > > > > I can get back to see my $spoolfile with 'c!', I can get back to a > > mailbox in $folder with 'c= but there's no simple way to > > get the browser back to starting from $folder again. > > There is a rather uncomfortable way to achieve this. Type > c?cPath/to/folder > This may be all I need as I can wrap it up in a macro easily enough, thanks. Yes, a quick trial of browsing local folders, followed by my IMAP folders, followed by my local folders seems to work OK. The only addition is that in some cases one needs to delete the initial prompt from the second 'c' command. Messy macros it may be but it will do what I want! -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
change-folder command and browser - thanks everybody for the help
I have finally got a macro that does what I want, takes the current
message and allows me to browse a remote IMAP system to save the
message. This is mostly thanks to all the help and feedback I got
here over the past few weeks - I expect everyone got pretty bored with
all my questions and moans about the browser.
The macro I have which does what I want is:-
macro index ,s "s?c^U{x-1.net:50143}INBOX.^M"
For just reading/browsing the folders I have:-
macro index ,c "c?c^U{x-1.net:50143}INBOX^M"
It's not exactly neat or elegant but it gets the job done perfectly
well so I'm happy now.
Let me just explain why I'm doing this, I run mutt on four systems, work,
home, this Linux login account and another login account. I wanted to
set up a place where I could save any 'important' messages so they're
viewable from any of my systems. All four systems get quite a lot of mail
'locally' and most of it doesn't need to go to the IMAP server, it's just
the odd message, a few each day, that I want to put on the IMAP server.
I have set up Courier IMAP on this system as a user (I have no root
access) and now, with the above mutt macro, I can save mail to here
quite easily. The browsing is necessary because I don't want to have
to remember what I've called all the mail folders.
So, once again, thanks everyone!
--
Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: 'browser' - what is it?
Hi! On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 05:23:47PM +0200, Stefan Bender wrote: > Michael Tatge wrote on Sat, May 13 2000 16:51:34: > > On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 11:43:52AM +0800, Greg Matheson wrote: > > > On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 05:00:37PM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 08:57:40AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > > > In general I think I'd prefer the browser to *always* start from > > > > > $folder... > > > > > > > There is a rather uncomfortable way to achieve this. Type > > > > c?cPath/to/folder > > > > > > And this could be made a folder hook, couldn't it. > > [...] > > A very clumsy way to do it would be > > macro index c?c...[as often as > > needed]/path/to/$folder\n > > Can't you use ^u for this? Afaik it deletes the whole line at once. > I looked it up, the function is called , defined in > functions.h. > So the macro would be > > macro index c?c^u/path/to/$folder > or > macro index c?c/path/to/$folder > (just tested :) Ah, I new there was a function to do, but I couldn't remember. Nice. So this one should work for the original poster. Michael -- If you have a procedure with 10 parameters, you probably missed some. PGP-fingerprint: DECA E9D2 EBDD 0FE0 0A65 40FA 5967 ACA1 0B57 7C13
