Hi, Sorry it's not my browser to blame. It's me haunted on end.
Since yestarday me and my home network experience what military men would call FUBAR. Constantly trying to reinstall, reload, cannibalize parts, copying data from backups, chasing viruses, coping with my antivirus software (sapient and overprotective) - FUBAR!!!! (search for it in browser if you are not familiar with that word). The only string to replace is and at *https://www.openoffice.org/pl/ <https://www.openoffice.org/pl/>* "Apache OpenOffice jest tworzony przez osoby z całego świata. Zapraszam do udziału!" replace it with "Apache OpenOffice jest tworzony przez osoby z całego świata. Zapraszamy do udziału!" After that all you will have to do is to polish your Polish :) Great job, congratulations! And thanks for patience. Regards, Czesław Wolański Le sam. 22 févr. 2020 à 13:18, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> a écrit : > Am 22.02.20 um 13:15 schrieb Czesław Wolański: > > Hi, > > > > These are missing: > > Did you refresh your browser cache? > > I am pretty sure I did most of them. > > > > > - "Pliki bunarne Apache OpenOffice hostowane przez Sourceforge.net – > > Zaufana strona internetowa" > > replace it with > > "Pliki binarne Apache OpenOffice hostowane przez Sourceforge.net – > > Zaufana strona internetowa" > > > > - "Notatki Wydań dla Apache OpenOffice 4.1.7" > > Replace it string with > > "Notatki Wydania dla Apache OpenOffice 4.1.7" > > > > - "Proszę powiedz znajomym o Apache OpenOffice przez Twitter" > > replace it with > > "Powiedz znajomym o Apache OpenOffice przez Twitter" > > > > - "Powiedz znojomym o Apache OpenOffice przez Facebook" > > replace it with > > "Powiedz znajomym o Apache OpenOffice przez Facebook" > > > > - "Jak zweryfikować pobranay plik z sumą kontrolną?" > > replace it with > > "Jak zweryfikować pobrany plik z sumą kontrolną?" > > > > - "Sourceforge - Pobierz, Opracowany i Opublikowany Darmowy Zestaw > > Produktów" > > replace it with > > "Sourceforge - Pobierz Opracowany i Opublikowany Darmowy Zestaw > Produktów > > > > and at https://www.openoffice.org/pl/ > > > > "Apache OpenOffice jest tworzony przez osoby z całego świata. Zapraszam > > do udziału!" > > replace it with > > "Apache OpenOffice jest tworzony przez osoby z całego świata. > Zapraszamy > > do udziału!" > > > > At this rate you may one day happen to learn Polish (as I am constanty). > > > > Regards, > > > > Czesław Wolański > > > > > > > > > > Le sam. 22 févr. 2020 à 12:56, Matthias Seidel < > matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> > > a écrit : > > > >> Am 22.02.20 um 12:52 schrieb Czesław Wolański: > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> You're right, one thing is to know KISS principle, another one is to > >> abide > >>> by it. > >>> > >>> Yes, I did have a look at website. Some changes are already present. > >> What changes are still missing? > >> > >> The point is: I have to crawl through a lot of text, proposals, > >> explanation... That takes a lot of time. > >> > >> Simply write the strings that have to be changed. ;-) > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Matthias > >> > >>> You > >>> remember "Use the search, Luke!"? > >>> It's funny to realise that it is me to submit proposal to change > "search" > >>> in Polish at website. I am and I will be haunted by "search".... till > >> the > >>> cows come home. > >>> > >>> P.S.: I hope you find time to update the string for the Solver dialog? > >>> > >>> Oooooh!!!! Now I get it: tit for that - *touchée* (point taken)! Will > >> take > >>> care of it. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> > >>> Czesław Wolański > >>> > >>> Le sam. 22 févr. 2020 à 12:39, Matthias Seidel < > >> matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> > >>> a écrit : > >>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> Am 22.02.20 um 12:29 schrieb Czesław Wolański: > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> thanks for surprisingly quick reply. That however begs a serious > >>>> question: > >>>>> * Do you have any spare time at all? (Especially during the > >> weekeends).* > >>>> Time is limited, of course. So remember KISS! [1] ;-) > >>>>> And now to the point. I assume you will take care of all points > where I > >>>>> submitted ONE proposal. > >>>> Did you have a look at the website? ;-) > >>>> > >>>>> So below I list my one-version proposals (instead of options): > >>>>> > >>>>> - Help text "Proszę powiedz znajomym o Apache OpenOffice przez > >> Twitter". > >>>>> Replace this string with > >>>>> "Powiedz znajomym o Apache OpenOffice przez Twitter" > >>>>> > >>>>> - Help text "Odnajdź pomoc dla OpenOffice". > >>>>> Replace this string with "Znajdź pomoc dla OpenOffice" > >>>>> > >>>>> - Help text "Apache OpenOffice rozwój projektów" > >>>>> Replace this string with "Apache OpenOffice - rozwój projektów" > >>>>> > >>>>> - "Notatki Wydań dla Apache OpenOffice 4.1.7" > >>>>> Replace this string with > >>>>> "Notatki Wydania dla Apache OpenOffice 4.1.7" > >>>>> > >>>>> - label for link "Natywny język" > >>>>> replace that string with "Języki" (sorry I just have noticed I's > >> been > >>>>> already changed, bravo!) > >>>>> > >>>>> With regard > >>>>> > >>>>> Czesław Wolański > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> Matthias > >>>> > >>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle > >>>> > >>>>> PS Hope you will find the time to read my mail to you (February > 21st), > >>>>> entitled "The sound of silence" > >>>> P.S.: I hope you find time to update the string for the Solver dialog? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Le sam. 22 févr. 2020 à 11:34, Matthias Seidel < > >>>> matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> > >>>>> a écrit : > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Czesław, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I will do my best... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But please, I am not a native speaker. Don't try to list all > >>>>>> alternatives and proposals, just give me *one* string that I can > >>>>>> exchange. ;-) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Note: For the future it is planned to have source of the web site on > >>>>>> Git(Hub) so you can easily create Pull Requests there... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Matthias > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Am 22.02.20 um 10:33 schrieb Czesław Wolański: > >>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have just visited OpenOffice site in Polish and dare to present > my > >>>>>>> remarks and suggestions. > >>>>>>> At link given below you will find a screenshot (format .jpg); > >>>>>> wrong/dubious > >>>>>>> parts are marked therein in red or yellow. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://pasteboard.co/IVQ6Q0e.jpg > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> REMARKS & SUGGESTIONS > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *I. download page > >>>>>>> > >> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------* > >>>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org/pl/download/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I.1. Few typos in hints: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - help text "Pliki bunarne Apache OpenOffice [...]" > >>>>>>> Replace word "bunarne" with "binarne". > >>>>>>> That non-existing word "bunarne" sounds somewhat funny - in fact > I > >>>> like > >>>>>>> it. > >>>>>>> Thank you for this inadvertent (?) invention very much indeed! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - help text "Jak zweryfikować pobranay plik [...]" > >>>>>>> Replace word "pobranay" with "pobrany" > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - help text "Pomóż rozpowszechniać na świecie i powiec [...]" > >>>>>>> Replace word "powiec" with "powiedz" > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - help text: "Powiedz znojomym o Apache OpenOffice [...]" > >>>>>>> Replace word "znojomym" with "znajomym" > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - help text: "Sourceforge - Pobierz, Opracowany i Opublikowany > [...]" > >>>>>>> Remove superfluous comma i.e. "," > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - help text: "Notatki Wydań dla Apache OpenOffice 4.1.7." > >>>>>>> Link label says "Notatki wydania", so I presume that help text > >>>>>>> should read "Notatki Wydania dla [...]" > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Otherwise few commas are missing (commas before word "aby"). I > >> don't > >>>>>>> mind, but any language purist would be appalled. > >>>>>>> In one case however - see point I.2. below - comma is of the > >> essence! > >>>>>>> I.2. Inconsistent usage of word "Proszę" (Polish for "please") > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Compare two help texts for: Facebook and Twitter. > >>>>>>> "Powiedz znojomym o Apache Open Office przez Facebook" and > >>>>>>> "Proszę powiedz znajomym o Apache Open Office przez Twitter". > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> In second sentence comma after word "Proszę" is essential!!! (shall > >>>> read > >>>>>>> "Proszę, powiedz [...]") > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Besides both help texts should either use word "Proszę" (with comma > >>>> after > >>>>>>> it) or not use it at all. > >>>>>>> IMHO it's better to remove "Proszę" from help text. (in German > >> version > >>>>>> for > >>>>>>> example word "Bitte" is not used in help text). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I.3. Better wording > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - Help text for Pomoc is "Odnajdź pomoc dla OpenOffice". > >>>>>>> Usage of "Odnajdź" is formally correct but how it sounds? Oddly, > >> to > >>>>>> put > >>>>>>> it mildly. > >>>>>>> Better version would be "Znajdź pomoc [...]" or "Uzyskaj pomoc > >>>> [...]" > >>>>>> or > >>>>>>> "Szukaj pomocy [...]". > >>>>>>> If you care to check French UI, you wil find "Besoin d'aide sous > >>>>>>> OpenOffice?" - a question - so > >>>>>>> the fourth proposal would be: "Szukasz pomocy dla OpenOffice?" > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - button for search, label "szukać" > >>>>>>> "szukać" is Polish infinitive form of English equivalent verb > "to > >>>>>> seek". > >>>>>>> It is first time I see > >>>>>>> on website in Polish that form of verb. Usually imperative > >> "szukaj" > >>>> is > >>>>>>> employed. > >>>>>>> Replace then "szukać" with "szukaj". > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - help text "Apache OpenOffice rozwój projektów" > >>>>>>> Dash or if you like (em dash) is necessary, so the help text > >> should > >>>>>>> read: "Apache OpenOffice - rozwój projektów" > >>>>>>> (the other acceptable version is "rozwój projektów Apache > >>>>>> OpenOffice"). > >>>>>>> - Compare three language versions [link label] ---> [help text] > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ENGLISH: "Native language" ---> "Apache OpenOffice in your native > >>>>>>> language" > >>>>>>> GERMAN: "Sprachen" ---> "Andere Sprachen für Apache OpenOffice" > >>>>>>> POLISH: "Natywny język" ---> "Apache OpenOffice w twoim ojczystym > >>>>>> języku" > >>>>>>> In contrast to English word "Native" its Polish equivalent > >> "Natywny" > >>>>>>> thrives solely within the domain of > >>>>>>> experts such as linguists, programmers or people dealing with > >>>>>>> internationalization/localisation (i18n/L10n). > >>>>>>> Do not force an ordinary user to consult dictionary while surfing > >> the > >>>>>> Net > >>>>>>> or try to educate him/her without consent. Simply replace > "Natywny > >>>>>> język" > >>>>>>> with "Język ojczysty" > >>>>>>> (use the word from help text) or apply German version's > equivalent: > >>>>>>> "Języki" > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> And please notice a significant difference in meaning between > >> German > >>>>>> and > >>>>>>> Polish/English version of set {link label, help text} > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I.4. Misleading redirection (?) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I am on Polish download page: > >>>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org/pl/download/index.html > >>>>>>> If I choose another language (via list box in top right corner), > >> let's > >>>>>> say > >>>>>>> English, > >>>>>>> I will be redirected to page: > >>>> https://www.openoffice.org/?redirect=soft > >>>>>>> I would prefer/expect to stay on a start page with new language in > UI > >>>>>>> applied. > >>>>>>> If however this is a concious decision of web master (for any > reason > >> of > >>>>>> no > >>>>>>> interest to me), I'll humbly accept it. > >>>>>>> Just wanted to voice my doubt. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *II. Home page > pl > >>>>>>> > >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> * https://www.openoffice.org/pl/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> II.1 Better wording > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "Chcę uczestniczyć w OpenOffice. > >>>>>>> "Apache OpenOffice jest tworzony przez osoby z całego świata. > >>>>>>> Zapraszam do udziału!" > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Word "Zapraszam" (in second line above) is 1st person singular > >>>> form > >>>>>> of > >>>>>>> Polish verb "zapraszać" (English "to invite"). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Whenever I encounter such form on any website, I'll always try > >> to > >>>>>> find > >>>>>>> more information about person who placed it, > >>>>>>> at least his/her full name. On your website I have found > nothing > >>>> and > >>>>>>> suspect that might be just an omission. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So - if there was no intention to "personalize" your web site - > >>>>>> replace > >>>>>>> "Zapraszam" with "Zapraszamy" > >>>>>>> (1st person plural). It conveys deeper sens of community > >>>>>> ("Zapraszamy" > >>>>>>> means "we invite"), something you surely > >>>>>>> shall approve of in your search for more volunteers. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hope you don't mind my minuteness, after all "Small is beautiful". > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Czesław Wolański > >>>>>>> > >> > >
