Cor, Nope, sorry didn't misunderstand the project at all. Let me explain my concern more simply. 1. EV owner will drive up and plug in his/her/their EVSE (or standard mobile charger as you call it), start charging and go to his $500k-$1m Condo. 2. 'a short while later' nefarious guy/gal/person will unplug the 14-50 Plug from the 14-50 Outlet since it is not locked in place. 3. Nefarious guy/gal/person will take his Klien/Craftsman/Harbor Freight wire/cable cutter and cut the cord as close as possible to the J1772 type 1 or 2/Tesla Plug/Gun. 4. Nefarious guy/gal/person will walk/run/sneak away with a EVSE(or standard mobile charger as you call it) but with the EV Plug/gun cut off. 5. Nefarious guy/gal/person now has the choice of a) selling the copper, b) selling the EVSE(or standard mobile charger as you call it) but with the EV Plug/gun cut off on eBay/Marketplace/Craigslist or c) getting a new J1772 type 1 or 2/Tesla Plug/Gun and either using it or selling it as a complete working unit. 6. If I/TucsonEV start getting requests to attach a new J1772 Plug on the end of a 'my dog chewed it off' EVSE, then I'll know where it comes from.
Capice? Rush Dougherty TucsonEV www.TucsonEV.com > -----Original Message----- > From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> On Behalf Of Cor van de Water via EV > Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 11:14 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> > Cc: Cor van de Water <cor.vandewa...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] $405.00 EV charging solution for apartments > > Rush, I think you misunderstood the project. What it provides is only a > charging outlet, not an EVSE. Each standard NEMA 14-50 can be activated > using a special App and no more than 6 residents can be charging at the same > time, if they all draw 40 Amps which they should > - because the charging is organised in a queue: if you want to change, you > request and are given a position in the queue, which are filled and (re-) > allocated as the 300A service they have comes available for charging. Since > each outlet is 50A, only 6 can be powered up at the same time, dividing the > 300 in 6 chunks of 50A. What you plug *into* your charging outlet is a > standard mobile charger, so if someone steals a "charging cord" then it is the > complete EVSE, simply unplugged from the NEMA 14-50 wall outlet. So, no > charging cords without plugs as you suggested. The smart thing of course is > the queuing and scheduling of 90 outlets into 6 active ones at any time, so > they can have a 300A service to start with. I am sure than once EV ownership > increases, they can upgrade their service and power more outlets at the same > time. > Hope this clarifies, > Cor. > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 7:49 PM Rush via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > > That's a great project especially since it profits from the hefty > > $2,000 per unit utility credit from Peninsula Clean Energy. > > > > Besides the app problem brought up by Electrek, hopefully the security > > is pretty good (which it probably is considering the Condo units cost > > between > > $500k-$1m) so that nefarious people can't sneak in and just unplug the > > 14-50 from the Pando unit, cut the EV cord shy of the Plug and run off > > with an almost perfectly good EVSE. All it needs is a new Plug put on the EV > cord! > > > > If I start getting various people wanting a new plug put on their EVSE > > that somehow doesn't have a plug already on it, I guess I'll know > > where it came from... > > > > Rush Dougherty > > TucsonEV > > 1014 E King St > > www.TucsonEV.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> On Behalf Of Lawrence Rhodes > > > via EV > > > Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 9:41 AM > > > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> > > > Cc: Lawrence Rhodes <primobass...@sbcglobal.net> > > > Subject: [EVDL] $405.00 EV charging solution for apartments > > > > > > https://electrek.co/2024/12/04/how-one-condo-complex-installed-ev- > > > charging-for-just-405-per-parking-spot/ Bring your own cord solution. > > > Lawrence Rhodes > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > > scrubbed... > > > URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev- > > > evdl.org/attachments/20241205/0afab7d5/attachment.htm> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and > > > CC fields > > > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
