All these spaces in an apartment parking lot will need service. The number's 50...no matter how you look at it. I don't care what plug is used, but from my experience at Sunset center in Carmel by the Sea is 14-50 is weatherproof and robust. Tour buses use it and so do I. You don't need an EVSE for any other high drain device. Oven, heaters....I see no reason for multiple ways to make charging harder. You should just be able to plug in, like a lamp. https://www.homedepot.com/pep/VEVOR-RV-Power-Outlet-Box-Indoor-Outdoor-50-Amp-125-Volt-250-Volt-Receptacle-Panel-NEMA-14-50R-Single-Outlet-for-RV-Camper-Car-DGNRV50A1450RJD0NV0/326874739?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&pla&mtc=SHOPPING-BF-CDP-GGL-Multi-Multi-NA-NA-NA-PLA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NBR-NA-CON-NA-CLV_Test_Decrease&cm_mmc=SHOPPING-BF-CDP-GGL-Multi-Multi-NA-NA-NA-PLA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NBR-NA-CON-NA-CLV_Test_Decrease-21382214627-164392121958-2278509895892&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA3sq6BhD2ARIsAJ8MRwWEnT3af4cosi0xEVVMeWvGIMC8QEqV9HEt00uR-h0Q2ZzRPxv_GtMaAncUEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds Lawrence Rhodes On Thursday, December 5, 2024 at 03:32:30 PM PST, Phil <p...@ingineerix.com> wrote: I already explained why just installing a bunch of 14-50's is dumb. Say you have 100 parking spots, now you need to install 5,000 amps of feeders to all these! Imagine the cost! Then you get into the fact that the 14-50 is not made for daily cycling, nor is weatherproof, and requires an expensive GFCI. Oh, and you also have to run a 50a capable neutral to each outlet, even though no portable EVSEs use it! If you run say 200A 3-phase down a row of parking spaces and use a smart EVSE with BYOC (Bring your own cord), the EVSEs can do the GFCI, Metering, and coordinate to make sure all EVs are charged overnight on just the relatively small 200A 3-phase feeder without overloading.
On Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 3:19 PM Lawrence Rhodes <primobass...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: You would think it would be possible with the plethora of wireless solutions to have a sub account on a main breaker. That means the land lord has an account to get the service but the tenant could have a separate tap that meters cost. The power company could even bill use. This could be 240 AC 14-50. I could be locked to prevent theft. Seems the solution already exists. All that is needed is installation and software. (Laying conduit) These could be installed anywhere. I think RV parks might be a model. Crude but effective. We already have separately metered apartments. You could have parking lots with different sized stalls for EVs or RVs. Works for both....or just put up a solar array over or around your vehicle. Tour busses use 14-50. A universal solution. Lawrence Rhodes _._,_._,_Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#3813) | Reply to Group | Reply to Sender | Mute This Topic| New Topic Your Subscription |Contact Group Owner |Unsubscribe [primobass...@sbcglobal.net] _._,_._,_ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20241206/2cf2837b/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
