I would be very surprised if max VMG (wind) is achieved at 25 degrees apparent and I would also be very surprised if max VMG to an upwind mark is achieved at 25 degrees to apparent wind Pierre if that is so keep your 38 -3 WK forever and race to win you will have a big advantage over most other boats in the fleet.
On my 35 MKII max VMG (wind) is achieved between 32 and 34 to apparent and so is max VMG to an upwind mark. I will admit to pinching to try to make a mark but when I pinch I lose speed and steering is on the edge for back winding the sails, that would happen at 25 apparent to me but Ill check when I get back on the water later this season Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _____ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Pierre Tremblay Sent: April 18, 2013 7:28 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 38 mkIII My polar stops at 25 AWA, witch is my VMG. At 20 AWA, there is not much speed left. I did it once to pass a buoy without tacking. I'm not sure I could have hold it for long. Pierre Tremblay Avalanche C&C38-3 WK De : dwight veinot <dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca> À : cnc-list@cnc-list.com Envoyé le : jeudi 18 avril 2013 5h24 Objet : Re: Stus-List C&C 38 mkIII Yes 20 degrees to apparent is really very good, any boat that can sail at 20 degrees to apparent wind is exceptional for sure, a real racer. If I take my 35 MKII up to 20 degrees apparent I am almost certain she would practically stop maybe check the polar diagrams on that 38 WK because 20 seems to good. The polar diagrams for my 35 MKII dont even show expected performance upwind in any wind strength, including light wind when sailing below 30 degrees apparent Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of j...@svpaws.net Sent: April 17, 2013 10:50 PM To: Pierre Tremblay; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 38 mkIII Thanks - very helpful. The AWA numbers you mention are very, very impressive. How do you find boat performance in a chop? John Sent from my iPad On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Pierre Tremblay <tremblay.pie...@yahoo.ca> wrote: Hi John, I know what you mean. I just fell in love with mine. I don't have much experience with her (bought it June 2012), and cant compare as it is my first keel boat. In light air, I usual match the TWS up to 6.5 knots at 30 degree AWA. She point well, even with a wing keel. I can go up to 20 degree AWA and still have a margin before stalling. Mine is a 1988 and it is in pristine shape. It was a ready to sail boat (fresh water boat). Hope it help. Pierre Tremblay Avalanche C&C38-3 WK De : "j...@svpaws.net" <j...@svpaws.net> À : "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Envoyé le : mercredi 17 avril 2013 20h33 Objet : Stus-List C&C 38 mkIII Any thoughts on the late 80's vintage 38? I'm thinking about one for a full restoration and ultimately to be used for coastal cruising (long island sound), casual phrf racing and limited offshore runs ( Bermuda , BVI, etc). A little background. I currently sail a Sabre 386 but am uninspired by the performance. Build quality is great. I've owned 2 Rob Ball C &C's in the past, each for about 7 years - a 34+ and a 51xl. The deep draft doesn't scare me (I took the 7'+ 51 through the Bahamas happily) and I understand the balsa core issues. Any other particular issues with the 38 to be concerned about? Motivation is that to my eye it's one of the prettiest boats I've seen. You can't overstate the importance of a drop dead gorgeous boat that makes you stop in your tracks. Any insight as to performance vs a Sabre 386 or a more modern design such as the 115? Any thoughts on performance in light air (say 10 knots true) as well as moderate (say 15-18 knots true). Does the boat point as well as it looks like it should? Any and all comments welcome John _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3162/5750 - Release Date: 04/17/13 _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3162/5750 - Release Date: 04/17/13
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