Here is the same table Tim provided with PHRF-NS (Nova Scotia) included, a
somewhat windier location than New England.  We do have a few Sabres up
here, but none of the type in question.  Tim, do like the advantage you
would get if you raced up here?

  Boat PHRF NE Base PHRF NS Base  C&C 37/40R 63 63  C&C 115 66 63  C&C
37/40XL (my boat) 66 72  C&C 37/40+ 75 75  C&C 34/36R 81 84  C&C 34/36XL 84
87  Sabre 386 84 None Rated  C&C 34/36 87 96  Sabre 386 WK 93 None Rated  C&C
38-3 102 105  C&C 35-3 (Tim's boat) 114 123  C&C 38-3 CB 117 None Rated

Ken H.


On 18 April 2013 11:27, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Check out the 34+ and 37+ designs.
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> On Apr 18, 2013 9:57 AM, "j...@svpaws.net" <j...@svpaws.net> wrote:
>
>> I hear you but for whatever reason we've just never fallen in love with
>> the Sabre.  It's a lot of $ tied up.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Apr 18, 2013, at 9:28 AM, dwight veinot <dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ** ** ** **
>>
>> I think that I would keep the Sabre, but I know the role appearance
>> plays. Appearance was high on the list of why I purchased my 35 MKII…I love
>> the appearance and lines which are what I think is called “classic”
>> Cuthbertson by some sailors.  Classic Plastic, I think they called it in
>> one article I have read****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Dwight Veinot****
>>
>> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna****
>>
>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS****
>>
>> ** **
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>>
>> *From:* CnC-List 
>> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Goodyear
>> *Sent:* April 18, 2013 9:55 AM
>> *To:* **cnc-list@cnc-list.com**
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 38 mkIII****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Handicaps *should* show you the difference in performance.  These are
>> from ****PHRF** **NE.****  You should be able to compare the 34+ and
>> Sabre 386 from your experience (apparently fairly similar).  My experience
>> sailing the 35-3 (another Rob Ball design) is that windward performance is
>> great; reaching and downwind are weaker points (but not bad, mind you).
>> Where in LIS are you based?****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Tim****
>>
>> Mojito****
>>
>> C&C 35-3****
>>
>> ****Branford**, **CT********
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *Boat*****
>>
>> *PHRF NE Base*****
>>
>> C&C 37/40R****
>>
>> 63****
>>
>> C&C 37/40XL****
>>
>> 66****
>>
>> C&C 115****
>>
>> 66****
>>
>> C&C 37/40+****
>>
>> 75****
>>
>> C&C 34/36R****
>>
>> 81****
>>
>> C&C 34/36XL****
>>
>> 84****
>>
>> Sabre 386****
>>
>> 84****
>>
>> C&C 34/36****
>>
>> 87****
>>
>> Sabre 386 WK****
>>
>> 93****
>>
>> C&C 38-3****
>>
>> 102****
>>
>> C&C 35-3 (my boat)****
>>
>> 114****
>>
>> C&C 38-3 CB****
>>
>> 117****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:33 PM, j...@svpaws.net <j...@svpaws.net> wrote:**
>> **
>>
>> Any thoughts on the late 80's vintage 38? I'm thinking about one for a
>> full restoration and ultimately to be used for coastal cruising (long
>> island sound), casual phrf racing and limited offshore runs (**Bermuda**,
>> BVI, etc).
>>
>> A little background.  I currently sail a Sabre 386 but am uninspired by
>> the performance.  Build quality is great.  I've owned 2 Rob Ball C &C's in
>> the past, each for about 7 years - a 34+ and a 51xl.****
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