I have to completely disagree. 1. In most cases, we won't actually be using the entire eight hours straight anyway.
2. In my experience with the actual lab, the time is up before you know it and technically, you can get a proctor like I had who starts a little late and then ends you right at the time. So, True preparation for the lab requires being able to configure in less than eight hours. 3. And most importantly, if the slots were more than eight hours, then how would that work out on a 24 hour breakdown? If a person really needs more than eight hours then you should book two sessions back to back. Just my opinion though. Regards, Raliegh Anthony Jones Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Tom Kacprzynski <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > Since we are on the topic of time slots. Why are you given a 7:45 hours > time slot, instead of a 8 hour slot, as the actual lab is 8 hours long. > This leaves hardly any time to load your config, save them and review your > lab. > > What would be a more customer focused product would give you full 8 hours > of actual config time, with 15 minutes to get everything setup a total of > 8:15. It does make a lot of more sense. > > Just my opinion. > > Tom > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Lukasz <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Wayne, >> >> >> Thanks for the answers. I am glad and surprised to hear about work that >> you Guys do on the new system. Looking forward to see the new proctorlabs. >> >> >> Lukasz >> >> >> On 2012-05-31 22:42, Wayne Lawson wrote: >> >>> Gang - >>> >>> I have been able to review this thread and want to give all of >>> you an update - our official response. >>> >>> We have been in the process of entirely overhauling Proctor Labs >>> for about 8 months. The code was written in an undesirable language, >>> and it has essentially been an entire rewrite of the current solution >>> as well as adding features and functionality - and things like the >>> ability to reserve VMware racks, Juniper racks and racks that are set >>> up with various Data Center components (hardware / software). >>> >>> We also have been working on an enhanced support solution for >>> products and vRacks - which will be rolled out at the same time the >>> new Proctor Labs site is launched. As somebody mentioned, I understand >>> that some people would like to see 4-hour timeslots, however - just as >>> many people don't - therefore we have to either support both, or >>> support the ability to allow you to link 4-hour sessions together. The >>> problem with that - is that there may not be the ability to stay on >>> the same rack if someone has the session before and after yours. Also, >>> time zones come into play - when will a session start, and when will >>> it end. I can guarantee that just as many people will be frustrated >>> with the start and end times as will be content. In a nutshell, there >>> are several things we've been working through to ensure that a >>> majority of our customers are happy. At the moment, I can't give an >>> exact date as to when this new Proctor Labs solution will be pushed >>> live, just know that I am impatient and my web team knows this! ;-) >>> >>> >>> Also - addressing someone's comments suggesting that we don't >>> fix product errors...that is not accurate. As product versions are >>> released, known errors are fixed. Let's face it - I would love to >>> commit to having a 100% error free product, but after running this >>> company for over 12 years, I've come to realize that it is nearly >>> impossible to expect that. We do, however, provide industry-leading >>> support (much better than any of our competitors) and we shoot to fix >>> known errors / bugs with updated products. >>> >>> I greatly appreciate everyone's valuable feedback, and we will >>> continue to work on enhancements to everything we offer to maintain >>> our position as a leader in this market. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244 >>> Founder & President >>> IPexpert, Inc., Proctor Labs, Inc., Masonic e-Institute of >>> Technology, Inc., & Platinum, Inc. >>> >>> Mobile: +1.810.334.1564 >>> eFax: +1.810.454.0130 >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Connect @ www.WayneLawson.com >>> >>> :: Message sent from iPhone. >>> >>> On May 31, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Lukasz <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> My thought on this...if that idea would be profitable IPx would have it. >>>> My understanding is that the vrack is cheap as petrol in Saudi Arabia and >>>> if you miss your 4 hours then that is your problem. You can imagine that if >>>> the 8 hour slot ends there has to be person (on call) in case the router >>>> does not recover. If you think about it then you know why 4 hour time slot >>>> does not work for IPx. That means they need to use more resources to cover >>>> something which is very cheap and I guess probably not very profitable for >>>> them. >>>> >>>> I think question goes to this. If you want to have 4 hour time slot >>>> would you be able to pay more for vrack? If so how much would you be able >>>> to spend? I prefer to have 8 hours slots for $25 and maybe waste couple of >>>> hours (unfortunately) because I live in Europe. >>>> >>>> Alternatively you can buy 4 switches (around $600) and connect them into >>>> your GNS and never think about time difference again. >>>> >>>> >>>> Lukasz >>>> >>>> On 2012-05-31 19:13, Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana wrote: >>>> >>>>> i'm on the same .... >>>>> >>>>> need 4 hour slots instead 8hours... because ... when we start as CCIE >>>>> candidate to practice the labs, we don't had the enough >>>>> mind strong to start at 8hour lab... >>>>> >>>>> another interesting point of view. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Ken Wyan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> When I asked for a fraction of time , sales person told it's not >>>>>> possible. >>>>>> My case was I needed about 11 hour time slots. I told xxxxxxx company >>>>>> provides such facility but IPX told they are training candidates for 8 >>>>>> hour >>>>>> slots & their timeslot period was designed for this purpose. >>>>>> >>>>>> One support guy was kind enough to give me few hours extension at the >>>>>> end >>>>>> of session (if there are enough free racks for next session). I >>>>>> appreciate >>>>>> his help. >>>>>> >>>>>> But other support guy needed one additional voucher even if I ask to >>>>>> start >>>>>> my session 2~3 hours before start time. (eventhough this approach can >>>>>> earn >>>>>> some extra money from pressurised candidates , in long run it's not >>>>>> good >>>>>> for vendor) >>>>>> >>>>>> (I needed additional hours to check everything very well & findout my >>>>>> mistakes before the exam ; definitely nobody can spare 16hours >>>>>> continuously) >>>>>> >>>>>> This is my experience with Proctorlabs >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Rob Pool <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Nick, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I bought my End-to-End solution in Oct 2010 and was told by my sales >>>>>>> person that they were working on a 4 hour time slot at that time. So, >>>>>> your >>>>>>> argument that it takes time to work on the technical issues doesn't >>>>>> really >>>>>>> fly. They've had plenty of time and it's clearly been an imitative >>>>>> that >>>>>> for >>>>>>> whatever reason they've decided wasn't a priority. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ______________________________**__ >>>>>>> From: Nick Bonifacio <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: Jay McMickle <[email protected]>; Rob Pool < >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; " >>>>>>> [email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:56 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] vrack time slots availability >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In their defense (Marko and IPX), they are working on it but the >>>>>> logistics >>>>>>> are a little tricky. I don't think you can just flip a switch and >>>>>>> institute 4 hour blocks. It will have to be tested, Beta tested and >>>>>> then >>>>>>> tested again. You also have to take in account who will get the >>>>>> short >>>>>> end >>>>>>> of the stick. Since most blocks are based on PST, other time zones >>>>>> may >>>>>>> start complaining if a 4 hour block system is implemented. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Jay McMickle <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: Rob Pool <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; " >>>>>>> [email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:56 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] vrack time slots availability >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Uh oh. I think I hear Marco coming. You are sooooo in trouble! >>>>>>> ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S) >>>>>>> Sent from iJay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 31, 2012, at 6:22 AM, Rob Pool <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nothing against IPX, because they've provided invaluable training >>>>>>> material. However, they've been talking about 4 hour time slots at >>>>>> least >>>>>> a >>>>>>> couple years and it hasn't happened yet. I went out and bought my own >>>>>> rack >>>>>>> of gear to the tune of over $11k. Fortunately for those that haven't >>>>>> done >>>>>>> that yet, the prices have dropped significantly and you could >>>>>> probably do >>>>>>> it for less than half of that. My suggestion is do the same if you >>>>>> want >>>>>>> the freedom and flexibility to train when you have time. Also, the >>>>>> best >>>>>> way >>>>>>> to institute change is with your money going somewhere else. A >>>>>> vendor can >>>>>>> ignore requests when you're still spending money, but they can't if >>>>>>> revenues are dropping. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my >>>>>>> iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 31, 2012, at 4:43 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello IP Experts, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A few weeks if not months ago I asked the same already, whether >>>>>> there >>>>>>> will be a chance for booking the vracks for 4hour slots instead of >>>>>> current >>>>>>> 8hours. The reasoning why I provided that time and looked like there >>>>>> are >>>>>>> much more people from this community who are interested in the same >>>>>> than >>>>>>> anyone including me could expect. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The response from the IPX instructor that time was that IPX is >>>>>> thinking >>>>>>> of implementing 4hour slots but had not definite plan for that. Let >>>>>> me >>>>>>> therefore ask you again the same, will you please make the 4hour >>>>>> vrack >>>>>> time >>>>>>> slots available for those who are based in Europe, those who just >>>>>> need to >>>>>>> spend labbing time on individual technologies and are not interested >>>>>> yet >>>>>> in >>>>>>> practicing the mock >>>>>>> labs where 8hour slots are understandable? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Marian Franc >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>>>>>> please visit www.ipexpert.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? 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