It takes 15 minutes for the automated process to clean-up the previous
configuration and allows support personell time to manually intervene
if automatic process fails (which unfortunately happens from time to
time).

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Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S)
Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Tom Kacprzynski <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello,
> Since we are on the topic of time slots. Why are you given a 7:45 hours
> time slot, instead of a 8 hour slot, as the actual lab is 8 hours long.
> This leaves hardly any time to load your config, save them and review your
> lab.
>
> What would be a more customer focused product would give you full 8 hours
> of actual config time, with 15 minutes to get everything setup a total of
> 8:15. It does make a lot of more sense.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Lukasz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Wayne,
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the answers. I am glad and surprised to hear about work that
>> you Guys do on the new system. Looking forward to see the new proctorlabs.
>>
>>
>> Lukasz
>>
>>
>> On 2012-05-31 22:42, Wayne Lawson wrote:
>>
>>> Gang -
>>>
>>>     I have been able to review this thread and want to give all of
>>> you an update - our official response.
>>>
>>>     We have been in the process of entirely overhauling Proctor Labs
>>> for about 8 months. The code was written in an undesirable language,
>>> and it has essentially been an entire rewrite of the current solution
>>> as well as adding features and functionality - and things like the
>>> ability to reserve VMware racks, Juniper racks and racks that are set
>>> up with various Data Center components (hardware / software).
>>>
>>>     We also have been working on an enhanced support solution for
>>> products and vRacks - which will be rolled out at the same time the
>>> new Proctor Labs site is launched. As somebody mentioned, I understand
>>> that some people would like to see 4-hour timeslots, however - just as
>>> many people don't - therefore we have to either support both, or
>>> support the ability to allow you to link 4-hour sessions together. The
>>> problem with that - is that there may not be the ability to stay on
>>> the same rack if someone has the session before and after yours. Also,
>>> time zones come into play - when will a session start, and when will
>>> it end. I can guarantee that just as many people will be frustrated
>>> with the start and end times as will be content. In a nutshell, there
>>> are several things we've been working through to ensure that a
>>> majority of our customers are happy. At the moment, I can't give an
>>> exact date as to when this new Proctor Labs solution will be pushed
>>> live, just know that I am impatient and my web team knows this! ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>     Also - addressing someone's comments suggesting that we don't
>>> fix product errors...that is not accurate. As product versions are
>>> released, known errors are fixed. Let's face it - I would love to
>>> commit to having a 100% error free product, but after running this
>>> company for over 12 years, I've come to realize that it is nearly
>>> impossible to expect that. We do, however, provide industry-leading
>>> support (much better than any of our competitors) and we shoot to fix
>>> known errors / bugs with updated products.
>>>
>>>     I greatly appreciate everyone's valuable feedback, and we will
>>> continue to work on enhancements to everything we offer to maintain
>>> our position as a leader in this market.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
>>> Founder & President
>>> IPexpert, Inc., Proctor Labs, Inc., Masonic e-Institute of
>>> Technology, Inc., & Platinum, Inc.
>>>
>>> Mobile: +1.810.334.1564
>>> eFax: +1.810.454.0130
>>> Email: [email protected]
>>> Connect @ www.WayneLawson.com
>>>
>>> :: Message sent from iPhone.
>>>
>>> On May 31, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Lukasz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  My thought on this...if that idea would be profitable IPx would have it.
>>>> My understanding is that the vrack is cheap as petrol in Saudi Arabia and
>>>> if you miss your 4 hours then that is your problem. You can imagine that if
>>>> the 8 hour slot ends there has to be person (on call) in case the router
>>>> does not recover. If you think about it then you know why 4 hour time slot
>>>> does not work for IPx. That means they need to use more resources to cover
>>>> something which is very cheap and I guess probably not very profitable for
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> I think question goes to this. If you want to have 4 hour time slot
>>>> would you be able to pay more for vrack? If so how much would you be able
>>>> to spend? I prefer to have 8 hours slots for $25 and  maybe waste couple of
>>>> hours (unfortunately) because I live in Europe.
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively you can buy 4 switches (around $600) and connect them into
>>>> your GNS and never think about time difference again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lukasz
>>>>
>>>> On 2012-05-31 19:13, Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> i'm on the same ....
>>>>>
>>>>> need 4 hour slots instead 8hours... because ... when we start as CCIE
>>>>> candidate to practice the labs, we don't had the enough
>>>>> mind strong to start at 8hour lab...
>>>>>
>>>>> another interesting point of view.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Ken Wyan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  When I asked for a fraction of time , sales person told it's not
>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>> My case was I needed about 11 hour time slots. I told xxxxxxx company
>>>>>> provides such facility but IPX told they are training candidates for 8
>>>>>> hour
>>>>>> slots & their timeslot period was designed for this purpose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One support guy was kind enough to give me few hours extension at the
>>>>>> end
>>>>>> of session (if there are enough free racks for next session). I
>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>> his help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But other support guy needed one additional voucher even if I ask to
>>>>>> start
>>>>>> my session 2~3 hours before start time. (eventhough this approach can
>>>>>> earn
>>>>>> some extra money from pressurised candidates , in long run it's not
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> for vendor)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (I needed additional hours to check everything very well & findout my
>>>>>> mistakes before the exam ; definitely nobody can spare 16hours
>>>>>> continuously)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is my experience with Proctorlabs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Rob Pool <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Nick,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I bought my End-to-End solution in Oct 2010 and was told by my sales
>>>>>> > person that they were working on a 4 hour time slot at that time. So,
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> > argument that it takes time to work on the technical issues doesn't
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> > fly. They've had plenty of time and it's clearly been an imitative
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> > whatever reason they've decided wasn't a priority.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ______________________________**__
>>>>>> >  From: Nick Bonifacio <[email protected]>
>>>>>> > To: Jay McMickle <[email protected]>; Rob Pool <
>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "
>>>>>> > [email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:56 AM
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] vrack time slots availability
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > In their defense (Marko and IPX), they are working on it but the
>>>>>> logistics
>>>>>> > are a little tricky.  I don't think you can just flip a switch and
>>>>>> > institute 4 hour blocks.  It will have to be tested, Beta tested and
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> > tested again.  You also have to take in account who will get the
>>>>>> short
>>>>>> end
>>>>>> > of the stick.  Since most blocks are based on PST, other time zones
>>>>>> may
>>>>>> > start complaining if a 4 hour block system is implemented.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >  From: Jay McMickle <[email protected]>
>>>>>> > To: Rob Pool <[email protected]>
>>>>>> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "
>>>>>> > [email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:56 AM
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] vrack time slots availability
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Uh oh. I think I hear Marco coming. You are sooooo in trouble!
>>>>>> >  ;)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>>> > Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
>>>>>> > Sent from iJay
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On May 31, 2012, at 6:22 AM, Rob Pool <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > Nothing against IPX, because they've provided invaluable training
>>>>>> > material. However, they've been talking about 4 hour time slots at
>>>>>> least
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> > couple years and it hasn't happened yet. I went out and bought my own
>>>>>> rack
>>>>>> > of gear to the tune of over $11k. Fortunately for those that haven't
>>>>>> done
>>>>>> > that yet, the prices have dropped significantly and you could
>>>>>> probably do
>>>>>> > it for less than half of that.  My suggestion is do the same if you
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> > the freedom and flexibility to train when you have time. Also, the
>>>>>> best
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> > to institute change is with your money going somewhere else. A
>>>>>> vendor can
>>>>>> > ignore requests when you're still spending money, but they can't if
>>>>>> > revenues are dropping.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Sent from my
>>>>>> >  iPhone
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > On May 31, 2012, at 4:43 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >> Hello IP Experts,
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> A few weeks if not months ago I asked the same already, whether
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> > will be a chance for booking the vracks for 4hour slots instead of
>>>>>> current
>>>>>> > 8hours. The reasoning why I provided that time and looked like there
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> > much more people from this community who are interested in the same
>>>>>> than
>>>>>> > anyone including me could expect.
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> The response from the IPX instructor that time was that IPX is
>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>> > of implementing 4hour slots but had not definite plan for that. Let
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> > therefore ask you again the same, will you please make the 4hour
>>>>>> vrack
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> > slots available for those who are based in Europe, those who just
>>>>>> need to
>>>>>> > spend labbing time on individual technologies and are not interested
>>>>>> yet
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> > practicing the mock
>>>>>> >  labs where 8hour slots are understandable?
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> Marian Franc
>>>>>> > >>
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