Hi, Eric. Many thanks for addressing our questions and making the file updates! We'll look forward to hearing from you after you've done your final review.
RFC Editor/lb > On Mar 24, 2025, at 2:10 PM, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote: > > Update: > I have now gone through and addressed all the RPC comments and updated the > relevant XML and md accordingly. > > My next step will be to actually read the document top to bottom for final > review. > > -Ekr > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 8:59 AM Lynne Bartholomew > <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > Hi, Eric. So noted. Thank you! > > RFC Editor/lb > > > On Mar 3, 2025, at 6:03 AM, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote: > > > > I have created issues corresponding to the inline RPC comments/questions > > and have tagged Lynn in them so she can see progress. > > > > -Ekr > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 9:51 AM Jean Mahoney > > <jmaho...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > Eric, > > > > On 2/25/25 3:14 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > Update: > > > > > > I have backported the copy-edit changes I approve of and reverted the > > > rest in the XML, which can be found here: > > > > > > https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture/pull/273 <https://github.com/ > > > mlswg/mls-architecture/pull/273> > > > https://github.com/ekr/mls-architecture/blob/merge_rpc_comments/rfc9750- > > > draft.xml <https://github.com/ekr/mls-architecture/blob/ > > > merge_rpc_comments/rfc9750-draft.xml> > > > > > > I will next go through the RPC's substantive questions and file GitHub > > > issues for each of them so we can work through them. Is there someone > > > you would like tagged on these issues? > > > > Lynne Bartholomew will be the RFC Editor handling this document's > > AUTH48. Her GitHub username is lbartholomew-rpc. > > > > Best regards, > > Jean > > > > > > > > -Ekr > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 9:46 AM Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com > > > <mailto:e...@rtfm.com>> wrote: > > > > > > Per private communication with Alan: a...@duric.net > > > <mailto:a...@duric.net> > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 7:50 AM Paul Wouters <paul.wout...@aiven.io > > > <mailto:paul.wout...@aiven.io>> wrote: > > > > > > datatracker says alan.du...@globalipsound.com > > > <mailto:alan.du...@globalipsound.com>, added to CC: > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 10:47 AM Jean Mahoney > > > <jmaho...@staff.rfc-editor.org <mailto:jmaho...@staff.rfc- > > > editor.org>> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Ekr, > > > > > > On 2/24/25 8:32 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 4:12 PM Jean Mahoney > > > <jmaho...@staff.rfc- > > > > editor.org <http://editor.org> > > > <mailto:jmaho...@staff.rfc-editor.org > > > <mailto:jmaho...@staff.rfc-editor.org>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Ekr, > > > > > > > > On 2/24/25 5:30 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > > > > > This document was prepared in markdown, so it > > > would be much more > > > > > convenient to do > > > > > the editorial phase of auth48 in markdown rather > > > than in XML, as I > > > > > understand has been > > > > > done for a number of recent documents. I > > > understand that a fair > > > > amount > > > > > of work has > > > > > already happened here, but is there a possibility > > > of getting a > > > > copy of > > > > > the markdown > > > > > with just the copy edit changes? > > > > > > > > [JM] As draft-ietf-mls-architecture is a long > > > document (41 pages PDF), > > > > it would be time consuming to port the edits into > > > markdown at this time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed. I've made a repo for the XML [0]. It will take me > > > some time to > > > > backport the changes to the .md file and provide updated > > > XML. > > > > > > [JM] Understood, and the RPC is aiming to accept md as a > > > submission > > > format in the future. > > > > > > Is there another address for Alan Duric? a...@wire.com > > > <mailto:a...@wire.com> bounced. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Jean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Ekr > > > > > > > > > > > > [0] https://github.com/ekr/rfc9750 <https://github.com/ > > > ekr/rfc9750> <https://github.com/ekr/rfc9750 <https:// > > > github.com/ekr/rfc9750>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be much easier to start edits in markdown in > > > a future > > > > document. > > > > If you have another markdown file that will be > > > entering the queue soon, > > > > please let us know, and we can provide an updated > > > markdown file at the > > > > beginning of AUTH48 as part of one of our process > > > experiments. > > > > > > > > Thanks and best regards, > > > > RFC Editor/jm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Ekr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 3:16 PM <rfc-editor@rfc- > > > editor.org <mailto:rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org> > > > > <mailto:rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org <mailto:rfc- > > > edi...@rfc-editor.org>> <mailto:rfc- <mailto:rfc-> > > > <mailto:rfc- <mailto:rfc->> > > > > > edi...@rfc-editor.org <mailto:editor@rfc- > > > editor.org> <mailto:edi...@rfc-editor.org > > > <mailto:edi...@rfc-editor.org>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *****IMPORTANT***** > > > > > > > > > > Updated 2025/02/24 > > > > > > > > > > RFC Author(s): > > > > > -------------- > > > > > > > > > > Instructions for Completing AUTH48 > > > > > > > > > > Your document has now entered AUTH48. Once it > > > has been > > > > reviewed and > > > > > approved by you and all coauthors, it will be > > > published as an > > > > RFC. > > > > > If an author is no longer available, there are > > > several remedies > > > > > available as listed in the FAQ (https:// > > > www.rfc-editor.org/ <https://www.rfc-editor.org/> > > > > faq/ <https://www.rfc-editor.org/faq/ <https:// > > > www.rfc-editor.org/faq/>> > > > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/faq/ <https:// > > > www.rfc-editor.org/faq/> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/ > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/> > > > > faq/>>). > > > > > > > > > > You and you coauthors are responsible for > > > engaging other parties > > > > > (e.g., Contributors or Working Group) as > > > necessary before > > > > providing > > > > > your approval. > > > > > > > > > > Planning your review > > > > > --------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Please review the following aspects of your > > > document: > > > > > > > > > > * RFC Editor questions > > > > > > > > > > Please review and resolve any questions > > > raised by the RFC > > > > Editor > > > > > that have been included in the XML file as > > > comments marked as > > > > > follows: > > > > > > > > > > <!-- [rfced] ... --> > > > > > > > > > > These questions will also be sent in a > > > subsequent email. > > > > > > > > > > * Changes submitted by coauthors > > > > > > > > > > Please ensure that you review any changes > > > submitted by your > > > > > coauthors. We assume that if you do not > > > speak up that you > > > > > agree to changes submitted by your > > > coauthors. > > > > > > > > > > * Content > > > > > > > > > > Please review the full content of the > > > document, as this > > > > cannot > > > > > change once the RFC is published. Please > > > pay particular > > > > > attention to: > > > > > - IANA considerations updates (if > > > applicable) > > > > > - contact information > > > > > - references > > > > > > > > > > * Copyright notices and legends > > > > > > > > > > Please review the copyright notice and > > > legends as defined in > > > > > RFC 5378 and the Trust Legal Provisions > > > > > (TLP – https://trustee.ietf.org/license- > > > info <https://trustee.ietf.org/license-info> <https:// > > > > trustee.ietf.org/license-info <http://trustee.ietf.org/ > > > license-info>> <https:// > > > > > trustee.ietf.org/license-info <http:// > > > trustee.ietf.org/license-info> <http://trustee.ietf.org/ > > > license- <http://trustee.ietf.org/license-> > > > > info>>). > > > > > > > > > > * Semantic markup > > > > > > > > > > Please review the markup in the XML file > > > to ensure that > > > > elements of > > > > > content are correctly tagged. For > > > example, ensure that > > > > > <sourcecode> > > > > > and <artwork> are set correctly. See > > > details at > > > > > <https://authors.ietf.org/rfcxml- > > > vocabulary <https://authors.ietf.org/rfcxml-vocabulary> > > > <https:// > > > > authors.ietf.org/rfcxml-vocabulary <http:// > > > authors.ietf.org/rfcxml-vocabulary>> <https:// > > > > > authors.ietf.org/rfcxml-vocabulary <http:// > > > authors.ietf.org/rfcxml-vocabulary> <http:// > > > authors.ietf.org/ <http://authors.ietf.org/> > > > > rfcxml-vocabulary>>>. > > > > > > > > > > * Formatted output > > > > > > > > > > Please review the PDF, HTML, and TXT files > > > to ensure that the > > > > > formatted output, as generated from the > > > markup in the XML > > > > file, is > > > > > reasonable. Please note that the TXT will > > > have formatting > > > > > limitations compared to the PDF and HTML. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Submitting changes > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > > > > > > To submit changes, please reply to this email > > > using ‘REPLY > > > > ALL’ as all > > > > > the parties CCed on this message need to see > > > your changes. > > > > The parties > > > > > include: > > > > > > > > > > * your coauthors > > > > > > > > > > * rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org <mailto:rfc- > > > edi...@rfc-editor.org> <mailto:rfc-editor@rfc- <mailto:rfc- > > > editor@rfc-> > > > > editor.org <http://editor.org>> <mailto:rfc-editor@rfc- > > > editor.org <mailto:rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org> <mailto:rfc- > > > <mailto:rfc-> > > > > edi...@rfc-editor.org <mailto:edi...@rfc-editor.org>>> > > > > > (the RPC team) > > > > > > > > > > * other document participants, depending > > > on the stream > > > > (e.g., > > > > > IETF Stream participants are your > > > working group > > > > chairs, the > > > > > responsible ADs, and the document > > > shepherd). > > > > > > > > > > * auth48archive@rfc-editor.org > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-editor.org> > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc- <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-> > > > > editor.org <http://editor.org>> > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc- <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-> > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc- <mailto:auth48archive@rfc->> > > > > > editor.org <http://editor.org> <http://editor.org > > > <http://editor.org>>>, which is a new archival mailing list > > > > > to preserve AUTH48 conversations; it is > > > not an active > > > > discussion > > > > > list: > > > > > > > > > > * More info: > > > > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf- > > > announce/ <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf- > > > announce/> <https:// > > > > mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/ <http:// > > > mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/>> > > > > > yb6lpIGh-4Q9l2USxIAe6P8O4Zc <https:// > > > mailarchive.ietf.org/ <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/> > > > > arch/msg/ <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ > > > <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/>> > > > > > ietf-announce/yb6lpIGh-4Q9l2USxIAe6P8O4Zc> > > > > > > > > > > * The archive itself: > > > > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ > > > auth48archive/ <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ > > > auth48archive/> <https:// > > > > mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/ <http:// > > > mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/>> <https:// > > > > > mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/ > > > <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/> > > > <http:// > > > > mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/ <http:// > > > mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/>>> > > > > > > > > > > * Note: If only absolutely necessary, > > > you may > > > > temporarily opt > > > > > out > > > > > of the archiving of messages (e.g., > > > to discuss a > > > > sensitive > > > > > matter). > > > > > If needed, please add a note at the > > > top of the > > > > message that > > > > > you > > > > > have dropped the address. When the > > > discussion is > > > > concluded, > > > > > auth48archive@rfc-editor.org > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-editor.org> > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc- <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-> > > > > editor.org <http://editor.org>> > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-editor.org > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-editor.org> > > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-editor.org > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>>> > > > > > will be re-added to the CC list and > > > > > its addition will be noted at the top > > > of the message. > > > > > > > > > > You may submit your changes in one of two ways: > > > > > > > > > > An update to the provided XML file > > > > > — OR — > > > > > An explicit list of changes in this format > > > > > > > > > > Section # (or indicate Global) > > > > > > > > > > OLD: > > > > > old text > > > > > > > > > > NEW: > > > > > new text > > > > > > > > > > You do not need to reply with both an updated > > > XML file and an > > > > explicit > > > > > list of changes, as either form is sufficient. > > > > > > > > > > We will ask a stream manager to review and > > > approve any > > > > changes that seem > > > > > beyond editorial in nature, e.g., addition of > > > new text, > > > > deletion of > > > > > text, > > > > > and technical changes. Information about > > > stream managers can be > > > > > found in > > > > > the FAQ. Editorial changes do not require > > > approval from a stream > > > > > manager. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Approving for publication > > > > > -------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > To approve your RFC for publication, please > > > reply to this > > > > email stating > > > > > that you approve this RFC for publication. > > > Please use ‘REPLY > > > > ALL’, > > > > > as all the parties CCed on this message need > > > to see your > > > > approval. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Files > > > > > ----- > > > > > > > > > > The files are available here: > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.xml > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.xml> <https:// > > > www.rfc- <https://www.rfc-> > > > > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.xml <http://editor.org/ > > > authors/rfc9750.xml>> <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc-> > > > <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->> > > > > > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.xml <http://editor.org/ > > > authors/rfc9750.xml> <http://editor.org/authors/ <http:// > > > editor.org/authors/> > > > > rfc9750.xml>> > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html> <https:// > > > www.rfc- <https://www.rfc-> > > > > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html <http://editor.org/ > > > authors/rfc9750.html>> <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc-> > > > <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->> > > > > > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html <http:// > > > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html> <http://editor.org/authors/ > > > <http://editor.org/authors/> > > > > rfc9750.html>> > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.pdf > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.pdf> <https:// > > > www.rfc- <https://www.rfc-> > > > > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.pdf <http://editor.org/ > > > authors/rfc9750.pdf>> <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc-> > > > <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->> > > > > > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.pdf <http://editor.org/ > > > authors/rfc9750.pdf> <http://editor.org/authors/ <http:// > > > editor.org/authors/> > > > > rfc9750.pdf>> > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.txt > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.txt> <https:// > > > www.rfc- <https://www.rfc-> > > > > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.txt <http://editor.org/ > > > authors/rfc9750.txt>> <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc-> > > > <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->> > > > > > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.txt <http://editor.org/ > > > authors/rfc9750.txt> <http://editor.org/authors/ <http:// > > > editor.org/authors/> > > > > rfc9750.txt>> > > > > > > > > > > Diff file of the text: > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750- > > > diff.html <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750- > > > diff.html> <https:// > > > > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html <http:// > > > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html>> <https:// > > > > > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html > > > <http://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html> > > > <http://www.rfc- <http://www.rfc-> > > > > editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html <http://editor.org/ > > > authors/rfc9750-diff.html>>> > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750- > > > rfcdiff.html <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750- > > > rfcdiff.html> <https:// > > > > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html <http:// > > > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html>> <https:// > > > > > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html > > > <http://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html> > > > <http://www.rfc- <http://www.rfc-> > > > > editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html <http:// > > > editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html>>> (side by side) > > > > > > > > > > Diff of the XML: > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750- > > > xmldiff1.html <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750- > > > xmldiff1.html> > > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750- > > > xmldiff1.html <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750- > > > xmldiff1.html>> <https:// > > > > > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html > > > <http://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html> > > > <http://www.rfc- <http://www.rfc-> > > > > editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html <http:// > > > editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tracking progress > > > > > ----------------- > > > > > > > > > > The details of the AUTH48 status of your > > > document are here: > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9750 > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9750> <https:// > > > www.rfc- <https://www.rfc-> > > > > editor.org/auth48/rfc9750 <http://editor.org/auth48/ > > > rfc9750>> <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc-> <https:// > > > www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->> > > > > > editor.org/auth48/rfc9750 <http://editor.org/ > > > auth48/rfc9750> <http://editor.org/auth48/rfc9750 <http:// > > > editor.org/auth48/rfc9750>>> > > > > > > > > > > Please let us know if you have any questions. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your cooperation, > > > > > > > > > > RFC Editor > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------- > > > > > RFC 9750 (draft-ietf-mls-architecture-15) > > > > > > > > > > Title : The Messaging Layer > > > Security (MLS) > > > > Architecture > > > > > Author(s) : B. Beurdouche, E. Rescorla, > > > E. Omara, S. > > > > Inguva, > > > > > A. Duric > > > > > WG Chair(s) : Nick Sullivan, Sean Turner > > > > > Area Director(s) : Deb Cooley, Paul Wouters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- auth48archive mailing list -- auth48archive@rfc-editor.org To unsubscribe send an email to auth48archive-le...@rfc-editor.org
