Hi, Eric.

Sorry -- does this mean that a new XML file is available somewhere?  If yes, 
please provide a pointer to it.

Thank you!

RFC Editor/lb

> On Apr 9, 2025, at 9:21 AM, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
> 
> The PR was merged last week.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 9:18 AM Lynne Bartholomew 
> <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> Hi, Sean and Eric.
> 
> On March 26, Eric let us know that an updated XML was available at 
> <https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture/blob/main/rfc9750-draft.xml>.  We 
> fetched the March 26 XML, created the output files, and posted them on March 
> 31 (10:32 AM PST).  We had some follow-up questions, and Eric replied (also 
> March 31) with "I have created a PR to address your comments and detailed how 
> they were addressed."  We also asked for and received AD approval re. some of 
> the changes.
> 
> It looks like we now need the following:
> 
> * The latest XML file from Eric (incorporating the March 31 updates), so that 
> we can create and post the latest output files
> 
> * Approvals from authors (see https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9750) if 
> no further updates are needed
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> RFC Editor/lb
> 
> 
> > On Apr 9, 2025, at 8:46 AM, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Lynne,
> > 
> > Can you advise on the status? When should we expect "final" versions of the 
> > document to be up for review/approval?
> > 
> > -Ekr
> 
> >> On Apr 3, 2025, at 1:11 PM, Sean Turner <s...@sn3rd.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Are we waiting on a new version that incorporates ekr’s updates?
> >> 
> >> spt
> > 
> >>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 8:32 AM Lynne Bartholomew 
> >>> <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> >>> Hi, Paul.  So noted:
> >>> 
> >>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9750
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you!
> >>> 
> >>> RFC Editor/lb
> >>> 
> >>> > On Apr 2, 2025, at 5:23 AM, Paul Wouters <paul.wout...@aiven.io> wrote:
> >>> > 
> >>> > Approved as AD - these were brought to attention of the WG.
> >>> > 
> >>> > Paul
> >>> > 
> >>> > On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 2:13 PM Lynne Bartholomew 
> >>> > <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> >>> > Hi, Eric.  Thanks for the quick updates!
> >>> > 
> >>> > RFC Editor/lb
> >>> > 
> >>> > > On Mar 31, 2025, at 10:53 AM, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > I have created a PR to address your comments and detailed how they 
> >>> > > were addressed.
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture/pull/332
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > > 1. Should 'rotation of "last resort" KeyPackage.' be 'rotation of 
> >>> > > > the
> >>> > > > "last resort" KeyPackage.'?
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > Yes, I have changed it.
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > > 2. Apologies for missing this earlier: Should "ciphersuite" be 
> >>> > > > "cipher
> >>> > > >    suite" in running text, per usage in RFC 9420, or OK to leave as
> >>> > > >    is?
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > Yes, I have changed it.
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > > 3. Regarding "A Delivery Service (DS), which can receive and
> >>> > > >      distribute messages between group members.  In the case of 
> >>> > > > group
> >>> > > >      messaging, the delivery service ...": Would you like "delivery
> >>> > > >      service" to be "Delivery Service" (which we still see used
> >>> > > >      several times elsewhere) or "DS"?  (We also see "Authentication
> >>> > > >      Service" spelled out in Sections 8.4.3 and 8.4.3.1.)
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > I have changed "delivery service" to "DS". I changed to AS in
> >>> > > 8.4.3.1 but I think it makes the most sense as-is in the first
> >>> > > use in 8.4.3.
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > > 4. Should "prevents selective attack on" be "prevents selective
> >>> > > > attacks on"?
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > It is correct as is.
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > > 5. Should "Handshake or application message" be "handshake or
> >>> > > > application message", per "handshake" as used elsewhere?
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > Fixed.
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > > 6. As we are now following CMOS guidance to initial-capitalize
> >>> > > >    prepositions of five or more letters in titles, would you 
> >>> > > > consider
> >>> > > >    changing "against" to "Against" in "No Protection against Replay 
> >>> > > > by
> >>> > > >    Insiders"?
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > Changed.
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > -Ekr
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 10:32 AM Lynne Bartholomew 
> >>> > > <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> >>> > > Hi, Eric and *AD (Paul or Deb).
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > Eric, thank you for making the additional updates and for the latest 
> >>> > > XML file!  We have follow-up items for you and for the AD, as flagged 
> >>> > > below.
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > * AD:  It is difficult for us to determine whether or not some of the 
> >>> > > new updates to this document might be considered "beyond editorial".  
> >>> > > Please review the following, and let us know any concerns.
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 1. update to Section 2.1, Paragraph 3 (re. LeafNode)
> >>> > > 2. updated "... used only once, and init_key ..." sentence in Section 
> >>> > > 5.1
> >>> > > 3. new Recommendation near the end of Section 5.1
> >>> > > 4. update to the "A policy for when two credentials" bullet in 
> >>> > > Section 7
> >>> > > 5. removal of the last paragraph of Section 8.1.4
> >>> > > 6. change from "to attack forward security" to "to attack 
> >>> > > post-compromise security" in Section 8.4.2
> >>> > > 7. new Section 8.6 ("No Protection against Replay by Insiders")
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > Eric:  A few follow-up items for you:
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 1. Should 'rotation of "last resort" KeyPackage.' be 'rotation of the 
> >>> > > "last resort" KeyPackage.'?
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 2. Apologies for missing this earlier:  Should "ciphersuite" be 
> >>> > > "cipher suite" in running text, per usage in RFC 9420,
> >>> > >    or OK to leave as is?
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 3. Regarding "A Delivery Service (DS), which can receive and 
> >>> > > distribute messages
> >>> > >      between group members.  In the case of group messaging, the
> >>> > >      delivery service ...":
> >>> > >   Would you like "delivery service" to be "Delivery Service" (which 
> >>> > > we still see used several times elsewhere) or "DS"?
> >>> > >   (We also see "Authentication Service" spelled out in Sections 8.4.3 
> >>> > > and 8.4.3.1.)
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 4. Should "prevents selective attack on" be "prevents selective 
> >>> > > attacks on"?
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 5. Should "Handshake or application message" be "handshake or 
> >>> > > application message", per "handshake" as used elsewhere?
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 6. As we are now following CMOS guidance to initial-capitalize 
> >>> > > prepositions of five or more letters in titles,
> >>> > >    would you consider changing "against" to "Against" in "No 
> >>> > > Protection against Replay by Insiders"?
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > We have posted the latest files here.  Please refresh your browser:
> >>> > > 
> >>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.txt
> >>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.pdf
> >>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html
> >>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.xml
> >>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html
> >>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html (side by 
> >>> > > side)
> >>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-auth48diff.html
> >>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-auth48rfcdiff.html 
> >>> > > (side by side)
> >>> > > 
> >>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html
> >>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff2.html
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > Thanks again!
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > RFC Editor/lb
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > > On Mar 26, 2025, at 1:04 PM, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
> >>> > > > 
> >>> > > > I have now completed my review and made final edits. All open 
> >>> > > > issues for this version are closed.
> >>> > > > 
> >>> > > > The updated XML can be found at:
> >>> > > > https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture/blob/main/rfc9750-draft.xml
> >>> > > > 
> >>> > > > -Ekr
> >>> > > > 
> >>> > > > 
> >>> > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 8:42 AM Lynne Bartholomew 
> >>> > > > <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> >>> > > > Hi, Eric.
> >>> > > > 
> >>> > > > Many thanks for addressing our questions and making the file 
> >>> > > > updates!  We'll look forward to hearing from you after you've done 
> >>> > > > your final review.
> >>> > > > 
> >>> > > > RFC Editor/lb
> >>> > > > 
> >>> > > > > On Mar 24, 2025, at 2:10 PM, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
> >>> > > > > 
> >>> > > > > Update:
> >>> > > > > I have now gone through and addressed all the RPC comments and 
> >>> > > > > updated the relevant XML and md accordingly.
> >>> > > > > 
> >>> > > > > My next step will be to actually read the document top to bottom 
> >>> > > > > for final review.
> >>> > > > > 
> >>> > > > > -Ekr
> >>> > > > > 
> >>> > > > > 
> >>> > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 8:59 AM Lynne Bartholomew 
> >>> > > > > <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> >>> > > > > Hi, Eric.  So noted.  Thank you!
> >>> > > > > 
> >>> > > > > RFC Editor/lb
> >>> > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > On Mar 3, 2025, at 6:03 AM, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
> >>> > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > I have created issues corresponding to the inline RPC 
> >>> > > > > > comments/questions and have tagged Lynn in them so she can see 
> >>> > > > > > progress.
> >>> > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > -Ekr
> >>> > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 9:51 AM Jean Mahoney 
> >>> > > > > > <jmaho...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> >>> > > > > > Eric,
> >>> > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > On 2/25/25 3:14 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > Update:
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > I have backported the copy-edit changes I approve of and 
> >>> > > > > > > reverted the 
> >>> > > > > > > rest in the XML, which can be found here:
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture/pull/273 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://github.com/ 
> >>> > > > > > > mlswg/mls-architecture/pull/273>
> >>> > > > > > > https://github.com/ekr/mls-architecture/blob/merge_rpc_comments/rfc9750-
> >>> > > > > > >  
> >>> > > > > > > draft.xml <https://github.com/ekr/mls-architecture/blob/ 
> >>> > > > > > > merge_rpc_comments/rfc9750-draft.xml>
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > I will next go through the RPC's substantive questions and 
> >>> > > > > > > file GitHub 
> >>> > > > > > > issues for each of them so we can work through them. Is there 
> >>> > > > > > > someone 
> >>> > > > > > > you would like tagged on these issues?
> >>> > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > Lynne Bartholomew will be the RFC Editor handling this 
> >>> > > > > > document's 
> >>> > > > > > AUTH48. Her GitHub username is lbartholomew-rpc.
> >>> > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > Best regards,
> >>> > > > > > Jean
> >>> > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > -Ekr
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 9:46 AM Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com 
> >>> > > > > > > <mailto:e...@rtfm.com>> wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > >     Per private communication with Alan: a...@duric.net
> >>> > > > > > >     <mailto:a...@duric.net>
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > >     On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 7:50 AM Paul Wouters 
> >>> > > > > > > <paul.wout...@aiven.io
> >>> > > > > > >     <mailto:paul.wout...@aiven.io>> wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > >         datatracker says alan.du...@globalipsound.com
> >>> > > > > > >         <mailto:alan.du...@globalipsound.com>, added to CC:
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > >         Paul
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > >         On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 10:47 AM Jean Mahoney
> >>> > > > > > >         <jmaho...@staff.rfc-editor.org 
> >>> > > > > > > <mailto:jmaho...@staff.rfc-
> >>> > > > > > >         editor.org>> wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > >             Hi Ekr,
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > >             On 2/24/25 8:32 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> >>> > > > > > >              >
> >>> > > > > > >              >
> >>> > > > > > >              > On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 4:12 PM Jean Mahoney
> >>> > > > > > >             <jmaho...@staff.rfc-
> >>> > > > > > >              > editor.org <http://editor.org>
> >>> > > > > > >             <mailto:jmaho...@staff.rfc-editor.org
> >>> > > > > > >             <mailto:jmaho...@staff.rfc-editor.org>>> wrote:
> >>> > > > > > >              >
> >>> > > > > > >              >     Hi Ekr,
> >>> > > > > > >              >
> >>> > > > > > >              >     On 2/24/25 5:30 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > Hi folks,
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > This document was prepared in markdown, 
> >>> > > > > > > so it
> >>> > > > > > >             would be much more
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > convenient to do
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > the editorial phase of auth48 in 
> >>> > > > > > > markdown rather
> >>> > > > > > >             than in XML, as I
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > understand has been
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > done for a number of recent documents. I
> >>> > > > > > >             understand that a fair
> >>> > > > > > >              >     amount
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > of work has
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > already happened here, but is there a 
> >>> > > > > > > possibility
> >>> > > > > > >             of getting a
> >>> > > > > > >              >     copy of
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > the markdown
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > with just the copy edit changes?
> >>> > > > > > >              >
> >>> > > > > > >              >     [JM] As draft-ietf-mls-architecture is a 
> >>> > > > > > > long
> >>> > > > > > >             document (41 pages PDF),
> >>> > > > > > >              >     it would be time consuming to port the 
> >>> > > > > > > edits into
> >>> > > > > > >             markdown at this time.
> >>> > > > > > >              >
> >>> > > > > > >              >
> >>> > > > > > >              > Indeed. I've made a repo for the XML [0]. It 
> >>> > > > > > > will take me
> >>> > > > > > >             some time to
> >>> > > > > > >              > backport the changes to the .md file and 
> >>> > > > > > > provide updated XML.
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > >             [JM] Understood, and the RPC is aiming to accept 
> >>> > > > > > > md as a
> >>> > > > > > >             submission
> >>> > > > > > >             format in the future.
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > >             Is there another address for Alan Duric? 
> >>> > > > > > > a...@wire.com
> >>> > > > > > >             <mailto:a...@wire.com> bounced.
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > >             Best regards,
> >>> > > > > > >             Jean
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > >              >
> >>> > > > > > >              > -Ekr
> >>> > > > > > >              >
> >>> > > > > > >              >
> >>> > > > > > >              > [0] https://github.com/ekr/rfc9750 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://github.com/
> >>> > > > > > >             ekr/rfc9750> <https://github.com/ekr/rfc9750 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://
> >>> > > > > > >             github.com/ekr/rfc9750>>
> >>> > > > > > >              >
> >>> > > > > > >              >
> >>> > > > > > >              >
> >>> > > > > > >              >     It would be much easier to start edits in 
> >>> > > > > > > markdown in
> >>> > > > > > >             a future
> >>> > > > > > >              >     document.
> >>> > > > > > >              >     If you have another markdown file that 
> >>> > > > > > > will be
> >>> > > > > > >             entering the queue soon,
> >>> > > > > > >              >     please let us know, and we can provide an 
> >>> > > > > > > updated
> >>> > > > > > >             markdown file at the
> >>> > > > > > >              >     beginning of AUTH48 as part of one of our 
> >>> > > > > > > process
> >>> > > > > > >             experiments.
> >>> > > > > > >              >
> >>> > > > > > >              >     Thanks and best regards,
> >>> > > > > > >              >     RFC Editor/jm
> >>> > > > > > >              >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > -Ekr
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 3:16 PM 
> >>> > > > > > > <rfc-editor@rfc-
> >>> > > > > > >             editor.org <mailto:rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>
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> >>> > > > > > >             info <https://trustee.ietf.org/license-info> 
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> >>> > > > > > >              >      >         and <artwork> are set 
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> >>> > > > > > >             <https://
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> >>> > > > > > >              >      > authors.ietf.org/rfcxml-vocabulary 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://
> >>> > > > > > >             authors.ietf.org/rfcxml-vocabulary> <http://
> >>> > > > > > >             authors.ietf.org/ <http://authors.ietf.org/>
> >>> > > > > > >              >     rfcxml-vocabulary>>>.
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     *  Formatted output
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> >>> > > > > > >              >      >         reasonable.  Please note that 
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> >>> > > > > > >              >      >         * rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org 
> >>> > > > > > > <mailto:rfc-
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> >>> > > > > > > <mailto:rfc-
> >>> > > > > > >             editor@rfc->
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> >>> > > > > > > <mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-
> >>> > > > > > >             editor.org <mailto:rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org> 
> >>> > > > > > > <mailto:rfc-
> >>> > > > > > >             <mailto:rfc->
> >>> > > > > > >              > edi...@rfc-editor.org 
> >>> > > > > > > <mailto:edi...@rfc-editor.org>>>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     (the RPC team)
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >         *  other document participants, 
> >>> > > > > > > depending
> >>> > > > > > >             on the stream
> >>> > > > > > >              >     (e.g.,
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> >>> > > > > > > your
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> >>> > > > > > >              >     chairs, the
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> >>> > > > > > >              >      >         * auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
> >>> > > > > > >             <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>
> >>> > > > > > >             <mailto:auth48archive@rfc- 
> >>> > > > > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc->
> >>> > > > > > >              > editor.org <http://editor.org>>
> >>> > > > > > >             <mailto:auth48archive@rfc- 
> >>> > > > > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc->
> >>> > > > > > >             <mailto:auth48archive@rfc- 
> >>> > > > > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc->>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > editor.org <http://editor.org> 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org
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> >>> > > > > > >              >      >           *  More info:
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > 
> >>> > > > > > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-
> >>> > > > > > >             announce/ 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-
> >>> > > > > > >             announce/> <https://
> >>> > > > > > >              > mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/ 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://
> >>> > > > > > >             mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/>>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     yb6lpIGh-4Q9l2USxIAe6P8O4Zc 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://
> >>> > > > > > >             mailarchive.ietf.org/ 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/>
> >>> > > > > > >              >     arch/msg/ 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/
> >>> > > > > > >             <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/>>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     
> >>> > > > > > > ietf-announce/yb6lpIGh-4Q9l2USxIAe6P8O4Zc>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >           *  The archive itself:
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > 
> >>> > > > > > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/
> >>> > > > > > >             auth48archive/ 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/
> >>> > > > > > >             auth48archive/> <https://
> >>> > > > > > >              > 
> >>> > > > > > > mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/ <http://
> >>> > > > > > >             mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/>> 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > 
> >>> > > > > > > mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/
> >>> > > > > > >             
> >>> > > > > > > <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/>
> >>> > > > > > >             <http://
> >>> > > > > > >              > 
> >>> > > > > > > mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/ <http://
> >>> > > > > > >             mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/>>>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >           *  Note: If only absolutely 
> >>> > > > > > > necessary,
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> >>> > > > > > >              >     temporarily opt
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> >>> > > > > > >              >      >              have dropped the address. 
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> >>> > > > > > >              >      > auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
> >>> > > > > > >             <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>
> >>> > > > > > >             <mailto:auth48archive@rfc- 
> >>> > > > > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc->
> >>> > > > > > >              > editor.org <http://editor.org>>
> >>> > > > > > >             <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
> >>> > > > > > >             <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>
> >>> > > > > > >              >     <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
> >>> > > > > > >             <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>>>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     will be re-added to the CC list and
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >              its addition will be noted 
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> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     You may submit your changes in one 
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> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     An update to the provided XML file
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >       — OR —
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     An explicit list of changes in this 
> >>> > > > > > > format
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     Section # (or indicate Global)
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     OLD:
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     old text
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     NEW:
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> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
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> >>> > > > > > > an updated
> >>> > > > > > >             XML file and an
> >>> > > > > > >              >     explicit
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     list of changes, as either form is 
> >>> > > > > > > sufficient.
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     We will ask a stream manager to 
> >>> > > > > > > review and
> >>> > > > > > >             approve any
> >>> > > > > > >              >     changes that seem
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     beyond editorial in nature, e.g., 
> >>> > > > > > > addition of
> >>> > > > > > >             new text,
> >>> > > > > > >              >     deletion of
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     text,
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> >>> > > > > > >             stream managers can be
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     found in
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> >>> > > > > > >             approval from a stream
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     manager.
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     Approving for publication
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     --------------------------
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     To approve your RFC for 
> >>> > > > > > > publication, please
> >>> > > > > > >             reply to this
> >>> > > > > > >              >     email stating
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     that you approve this RFC for 
> >>> > > > > > > publication. 
> >>> > > > > > >             Please use ‘REPLY
> >>> > > > > > >              >     ALL’,
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     as all the parties CCed on this 
> >>> > > > > > > message need
> >>> > > > > > >             to see your
> >>> > > > > > >              >     approval.
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     Files
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     -----
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     The files are available here:
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > 
> >>> > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.xml
> >>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.xml> 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://
> >>> > > > > > >             www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->
> >>> > > > > > >              > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.xml 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
> >>> > > > > > >             authors/rfc9750.xml>> <https://www.rfc- 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc->
> >>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.xml 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
> >>> > > > > > >             authors/rfc9750.xml> <http://editor.org/authors/ 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://
> >>> > > > > > >             editor.org/authors/>
> >>> > > > > > >              >     rfc9750.xml>>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > 
> >>> > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html
> >>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html> 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://
> >>> > > > > > >             www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->
> >>> > > > > > >              > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
> >>> > > > > > >             authors/rfc9750.html>> <https://www.rfc- 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc->
> >>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html <http://
> >>> > > > > > >             editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html> 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/authors/
> >>> > > > > > >             <http://editor.org/authors/>
> >>> > > > > > >              >     rfc9750.html>>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > 
> >>> > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.pdf
> >>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.pdf> 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://
> >>> > > > > > >             www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->
> >>> > > > > > >              > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.pdf 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
> >>> > > > > > >             authors/rfc9750.pdf>> <https://www.rfc- 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc->
> >>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.pdf 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
> >>> > > > > > >             authors/rfc9750.pdf> <http://editor.org/authors/ 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://
> >>> > > > > > >             editor.org/authors/>
> >>> > > > > > >              >     rfc9750.pdf>>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > 
> >>> > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.txt
> >>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.txt> 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://
> >>> > > > > > >             www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->
> >>> > > > > > >              > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.txt 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
> >>> > > > > > >             authors/rfc9750.txt>> <https://www.rfc- 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc->
> >>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.txt 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
> >>> > > > > > >             authors/rfc9750.txt> <http://editor.org/authors/ 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://
> >>> > > > > > >             editor.org/authors/>
> >>> > > > > > >              >     rfc9750.txt>>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     Diff file of the text:
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > 
> >>> > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-
> >>> > > > > > >             diff.html 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-
> >>> > > > > > >             diff.html> <https://
> >>> > > > > > >              > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://
> >>> > > > > > >             www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html>> 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > 
> >>> > > > > > > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html
> >>> > > > > > >             
> >>> > > > > > > <http://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html>
> >>> > > > > > >             <http://www.rfc- <http://www.rfc->
> >>> > > > > > >              > editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
> >>> > > > > > >             authors/rfc9750-diff.html>>>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > 
> >>> > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-
> >>> > > > > > >             rfcdiff.html 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-
> >>> > > > > > >             rfcdiff.html> <https://
> >>> > > > > > >              > 
> >>> > > > > > > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html <http://
> >>> > > > > > >             www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html>> 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > 
> >>> > > > > > > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html
> >>> > > > > > >             
> >>> > > > > > > <http://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html>
> >>> > > > > > >             <http://www.rfc- <http://www.rfc->
> >>> > > > > > >              > editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://
> >>> > > > > > >             editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html>>> (side 
> >>> > > > > > > by side)
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     Diff of the XML:
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > 
> >>> > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-
> >>> > > > > > >             xmldiff1.html 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-
> >>> > > > > > >             xmldiff1.html>
> >>> > > > > > >              >     
> >>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-
> >>> > > > > > >             xmldiff1.html 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-
> >>> > > > > > >             xmldiff1.html>> <https://
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > 
> >>> > > > > > > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html
> >>> > > > > > >             
> >>> > > > > > > <http://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html>
> >>> > > > > > >             <http://www.rfc- <http://www.rfc->
> >>> > > > > > >              > editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://
> >>> > > > > > >             editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html>>>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     Tracking progress
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     -----------------
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     The details of the AUTH48 status of 
> >>> > > > > > > your
> >>> > > > > > >             document are here:
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > 
> >>> > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9750
> >>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9750> 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://
> >>> > > > > > >             www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->
> >>> > > > > > >              > editor.org/auth48/rfc9750 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/auth48/
> >>> > > > > > >             rfc9750>> <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc-> 
> >>> > > > > > > <https://
> >>> > > > > > >             www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      > editor.org/auth48/rfc9750 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
> >>> > > > > > >             auth48/rfc9750> <http://editor.org/auth48/rfc9750 
> >>> > > > > > > <http://
> >>> > > > > > >             editor.org/auth48/rfc9750>>>
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     Please let us know if you have any 
> >>> > > > > > > questions.
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     Thank you for your cooperation,
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     RFC Editor
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     
> >>> > > > > > > --------------------------------------
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     RFC 9750 
> >>> > > > > > > (draft-ietf-mls-architecture-15)
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     Title            : The Messaging 
> >>> > > > > > > Layer
> >>> > > > > > >             Security (MLS)
> >>> > > > > > >              >     Architecture
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     Author(s)        : B. Beurdouche, 
> >>> > > > > > > E. Rescorla,
> >>> > > > > > >             E. Omara, S.
> >>> > > > > > >              >     Inguva,
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     A. Duric
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     WG Chair(s)      : Nick Sullivan, 
> >>> > > > > > > Sean Turner
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >     Area Director(s) : Deb Cooley, Paul 
> >>> > > > > > > Wouters
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >      >
> >>> > > > > > >              >
> >>> > > > > > > 
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