Per private communication with Alan: a...@duric.net

On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 7:50 AM Paul Wouters <paul.wout...@aiven.io> wrote:

> datatracker says alan.du...@globalipsound.com, added to CC:
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> Paul
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> On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 10:47 AM Jean Mahoney <
> jmaho...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ekr,
>>
>> On 2/24/25 8:32 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 4:12 PM Jean Mahoney <jmaho...@staff.rfc-
>> > editor.org <mailto:jmaho...@staff.rfc-editor.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Hi Ekr,
>> >
>> >     On 2/24/25 5:30 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>> >      > Hi folks,
>> >      >
>> >      > This document was prepared in markdown, so it would be much more
>> >      > convenient to do
>> >      > the editorial phase of auth48 in markdown rather than in XML, as
>> I
>> >      > understand has been
>> >      > done for a number of recent documents. I understand that a fair
>> >     amount
>> >      > of work has
>> >      > already happened here, but is there a possibility of getting a
>> >     copy of
>> >      > the markdown
>> >      > with just the copy edit changes?
>> >
>> >     [JM] As draft-ietf-mls-architecture is a long document (41 pages
>> PDF),
>> >     it would be time consuming to port the edits into markdown at this
>> time.
>> >
>> >
>> > Indeed. I've made a repo for the XML [0]. It will take me some time to
>> > backport the changes to the .md file and provide updated XML.
>>
>> [JM] Understood, and the RPC is aiming to accept md as a submission
>> format in the future.
>>
>> Is there another address for Alan Duric? a...@wire.com bounced.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Jean
>>
>>
>> >
>> > -Ekr
>> >
>> >
>> > [0] https://github.com/ekr/rfc9750 <https://github.com/ekr/rfc9750>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     It would be much easier to start edits in markdown in a future
>> >     document.
>> >     If you have another markdown file that will be entering the queue
>> soon,
>> >     please let us know, and we can provide an updated markdown file at
>> the
>> >     beginning of AUTH48 as part of one of our process experiments.
>> >
>> >     Thanks and best regards,
>> >     RFC Editor/jm
>> >
>> >      >
>> >      > -Ekr
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      > On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 3:16 PM <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org
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>> <https://
>> >     www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html> <https://
>> >      > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html <http://www.rfc-
>> >     editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html>> (side by side)
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>> >      >     Diff of the XML:
>> >      > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html
>> >     <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html>
>> <https://
>> >      > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html <
>> http://www.rfc-
>> >     editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html>>
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>> >      >     --------------------------------------
>> >      >     RFC 9750 (draft-ietf-mls-architecture-15)
>> >      >
>> >      >     Title            : The Messaging Layer Security (MLS)
>> >     Architecture
>> >      >     Author(s)        : B. Beurdouche, E. Rescorla, E. Omara, S.
>> >     Inguva,
>> >      >     A. Duric
>> >      >     WG Chair(s)      : Nick Sullivan, Sean Turner
>> >      >     Area Director(s) : Deb Cooley, Paul Wouters
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >
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