Hi, Sean and Eric.

On March 26, Eric let us know that an updated XML was available at 
<https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture/blob/main/rfc9750-draft.xml>.  We 
fetched the March 26 XML, created the output files, and posted them on March 31 
(10:32 AM PST).  We had some follow-up questions, and Eric replied (also March 
31) with "I have created a PR to address your comments and detailed how they 
were addressed."  We also asked for and received AD approval re. some of the 
changes.

It looks like we now need the following:

* The latest XML file from Eric (incorporating the March 31 updates), so that 
we can create and post the latest output files

* Approvals from authors (see https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9750) if no 
further updates are needed

Thank you!

RFC Editor/lb


> On Apr 9, 2025, at 8:46 AM, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
> 
> Lynne,
> 
> Can you advise on the status? When should we expect "final" versions of the 
> document to be up for review/approval?
> 
> -Ekr

>> On Apr 3, 2025, at 1:11 PM, Sean Turner <s...@sn3rd.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Are we waiting on a new version that incorporates ekr’s updates?
>> 
>> spt
> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 8:32 AM Lynne Bartholomew 
>>> <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>>> Hi, Paul.  So noted:
>>> 
>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9750
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
>>> 
>>> RFC Editor/lb
>>> 
>>> > On Apr 2, 2025, at 5:23 AM, Paul Wouters <paul.wout...@aiven.io> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > Approved as AD - these were brought to attention of the WG.
>>> > 
>>> > Paul
>>> > 
>>> > On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 2:13 PM Lynne Bartholomew 
>>> > <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>>> > Hi, Eric.  Thanks for the quick updates!
>>> > 
>>> > RFC Editor/lb
>>> > 
>>> > > On Mar 31, 2025, at 10:53 AM, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
>>> > > 
>>> > > I have created a PR to address your comments and detailed how they were 
>>> > > addressed.
>>> > > 
>>> > > https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture/pull/332
>>> > > 
>>> > > > 1. Should 'rotation of "last resort" KeyPackage.' be 'rotation of the
>>> > > > "last resort" KeyPackage.'?
>>> > > 
>>> > > Yes, I have changed it.
>>> > > 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > 2. Apologies for missing this earlier: Should "ciphersuite" be "cipher
>>> > > >    suite" in running text, per usage in RFC 9420, or OK to leave as
>>> > > >    is?
>>> > > 
>>> > > Yes, I have changed it.
>>> > > 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > 3. Regarding "A Delivery Service (DS), which can receive and
>>> > > >      distribute messages between group members.  In the case of group
>>> > > >      messaging, the delivery service ...": Would you like "delivery
>>> > > >      service" to be "Delivery Service" (which we still see used
>>> > > >      several times elsewhere) or "DS"?  (We also see "Authentication
>>> > > >      Service" spelled out in Sections 8.4.3 and 8.4.3.1.)
>>> > > 
>>> > > I have changed "delivery service" to "DS". I changed to AS in
>>> > > 8.4.3.1 but I think it makes the most sense as-is in the first
>>> > > use in 8.4.3.
>>> > > 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > 4. Should "prevents selective attack on" be "prevents selective
>>> > > > attacks on"?
>>> > > 
>>> > > It is correct as is.
>>> > > 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > 5. Should "Handshake or application message" be "handshake or
>>> > > > application message", per "handshake" as used elsewhere?
>>> > > 
>>> > > Fixed.
>>> > > 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > 6. As we are now following CMOS guidance to initial-capitalize
>>> > > >    prepositions of five or more letters in titles, would you consider
>>> > > >    changing "against" to "Against" in "No Protection against Replay by
>>> > > >    Insiders"?
>>> > > 
>>> > > Changed.
>>> > > 
>>> > > -Ekr
>>> > > 
>>> > > 
>>> > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 10:32 AM Lynne Bartholomew 
>>> > > <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>>> > > Hi, Eric and *AD (Paul or Deb).
>>> > > 
>>> > > Eric, thank you for making the additional updates and for the latest 
>>> > > XML file!  We have follow-up items for you and for the AD, as flagged 
>>> > > below.
>>> > > 
>>> > > * AD:  It is difficult for us to determine whether or not some of the 
>>> > > new updates to this document might be considered "beyond editorial".  
>>> > > Please review the following, and let us know any concerns.
>>> > > 
>>> > > 1. update to Section 2.1, Paragraph 3 (re. LeafNode)
>>> > > 2. updated "... used only once, and init_key ..." sentence in Section 
>>> > > 5.1
>>> > > 3. new Recommendation near the end of Section 5.1
>>> > > 4. update to the "A policy for when two credentials" bullet in Section 7
>>> > > 5. removal of the last paragraph of Section 8.1.4
>>> > > 6. change from "to attack forward security" to "to attack 
>>> > > post-compromise security" in Section 8.4.2
>>> > > 7. new Section 8.6 ("No Protection against Replay by Insiders")
>>> > > 
>>> > > 
>>> > > Eric:  A few follow-up items for you:
>>> > > 
>>> > > 1. Should 'rotation of "last resort" KeyPackage.' be 'rotation of the 
>>> > > "last resort" KeyPackage.'?
>>> > > 
>>> > > 2. Apologies for missing this earlier:  Should "ciphersuite" be "cipher 
>>> > > suite" in running text, per usage in RFC 9420,
>>> > >    or OK to leave as is?
>>> > > 
>>> > > 3. Regarding "A Delivery Service (DS), which can receive and distribute 
>>> > > messages
>>> > >      between group members.  In the case of group messaging, the
>>> > >      delivery service ...":
>>> > >   Would you like "delivery service" to be "Delivery Service" (which we 
>>> > > still see used several times elsewhere) or "DS"?
>>> > >   (We also see "Authentication Service" spelled out in Sections 8.4.3 
>>> > > and 8.4.3.1.)
>>> > > 
>>> > > 4. Should "prevents selective attack on" be "prevents selective attacks 
>>> > > on"?
>>> > > 
>>> > > 5. Should "Handshake or application message" be "handshake or 
>>> > > application message", per "handshake" as used elsewhere?
>>> > > 
>>> > > 6. As we are now following CMOS guidance to initial-capitalize 
>>> > > prepositions of five or more letters in titles,
>>> > >    would you consider changing "against" to "Against" in "No Protection 
>>> > > against Replay by Insiders"?
>>> > > 
>>> > > We have posted the latest files here.  Please refresh your browser:
>>> > > 
>>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.txt
>>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.pdf
>>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html
>>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.xml
>>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html
>>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html (side by 
>>> > > side)
>>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-auth48diff.html
>>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-auth48rfcdiff.html (side 
>>> > > by side)
>>> > > 
>>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html
>>> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff2.html
>>> > > 
>>> > > Thanks again!
>>> > > 
>>> > > RFC Editor/lb
>>> > > 
>>> > > > On Mar 26, 2025, at 1:04 PM, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > I have now completed my review and made final edits. All open issues 
>>> > > > for this version are closed.
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > The updated XML can be found at:
>>> > > > https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture/blob/main/rfc9750-draft.xml
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > -Ekr
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 8:42 AM Lynne Bartholomew 
>>> > > > <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>>> > > > Hi, Eric.
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > Many thanks for addressing our questions and making the file updates! 
>>> > > >  We'll look forward to hearing from you after you've done your final 
>>> > > > review.
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > RFC Editor/lb
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > > On Mar 24, 2025, at 2:10 PM, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > Update:
>>> > > > > I have now gone through and addressed all the RPC comments and 
>>> > > > > updated the relevant XML and md accordingly.
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > My next step will be to actually read the document top to bottom 
>>> > > > > for final review.
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > -Ekr
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 8:59 AM Lynne Bartholomew 
>>> > > > > <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>>> > > > > Hi, Eric.  So noted.  Thank you!
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > RFC Editor/lb
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > On Mar 3, 2025, at 6:03 AM, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > I have created issues corresponding to the inline RPC 
>>> > > > > > comments/questions and have tagged Lynn in them so she can see 
>>> > > > > > progress.
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > -Ekr
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 9:51 AM Jean Mahoney 
>>> > > > > > <jmaho...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>>> > > > > > Eric,
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > On 2/25/25 3:14 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>>> > > > > > > Update:
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > I have backported the copy-edit changes I approve of and 
>>> > > > > > > reverted the 
>>> > > > > > > rest in the XML, which can be found here:
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture/pull/273 
>>> > > > > > > <https://github.com/ 
>>> > > > > > > mlswg/mls-architecture/pull/273>
>>> > > > > > > https://github.com/ekr/mls-architecture/blob/merge_rpc_comments/rfc9750-
>>> > > > > > >  
>>> > > > > > > draft.xml <https://github.com/ekr/mls-architecture/blob/ 
>>> > > > > > > merge_rpc_comments/rfc9750-draft.xml>
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > I will next go through the RPC's substantive questions and file 
>>> > > > > > > GitHub 
>>> > > > > > > issues for each of them so we can work through them. Is there 
>>> > > > > > > someone 
>>> > > > > > > you would like tagged on these issues?
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > Lynne Bartholomew will be the RFC Editor handling this document's 
>>> > > > > > AUTH48. Her GitHub username is lbartholomew-rpc.
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > Best regards,
>>> > > > > > Jean
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > -Ekr
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 9:46 AM Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com 
>>> > > > > > > <mailto:e...@rtfm.com>> wrote:
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > >     Per private communication with Alan: a...@duric.net
>>> > > > > > >     <mailto:a...@duric.net>
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > >     On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 7:50 AM Paul Wouters 
>>> > > > > > > <paul.wout...@aiven.io
>>> > > > > > >     <mailto:paul.wout...@aiven.io>> wrote:
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > >         datatracker says alan.du...@globalipsound.com
>>> > > > > > >         <mailto:alan.du...@globalipsound.com>, added to CC:
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > >         Paul
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > >         On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 10:47 AM Jean Mahoney
>>> > > > > > >         <jmaho...@staff.rfc-editor.org 
>>> > > > > > > <mailto:jmaho...@staff.rfc-
>>> > > > > > >         editor.org>> wrote:
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > >             Hi Ekr,
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > >             On 2/24/25 8:32 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>>> > > > > > >              >
>>> > > > > > >              >
>>> > > > > > >              > On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 4:12 PM Jean Mahoney
>>> > > > > > >             <jmaho...@staff.rfc-
>>> > > > > > >              > editor.org <http://editor.org>
>>> > > > > > >             <mailto:jmaho...@staff.rfc-editor.org
>>> > > > > > >             <mailto:jmaho...@staff.rfc-editor.org>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > > >              >
>>> > > > > > >              >     Hi Ekr,
>>> > > > > > >              >
>>> > > > > > >              >     On 2/24/25 5:30 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>>> > > > > > >              >      > Hi folks,
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      > This document was prepared in markdown, 
>>> > > > > > > so it
>>> > > > > > >             would be much more
>>> > > > > > >              >      > convenient to do
>>> > > > > > >              >      > the editorial phase of auth48 in markdown 
>>> > > > > > > rather
>>> > > > > > >             than in XML, as I
>>> > > > > > >              >      > understand has been
>>> > > > > > >              >      > done for a number of recent documents. I
>>> > > > > > >             understand that a fair
>>> > > > > > >              >     amount
>>> > > > > > >              >      > of work has
>>> > > > > > >              >      > already happened here, but is there a 
>>> > > > > > > possibility
>>> > > > > > >             of getting a
>>> > > > > > >              >     copy of
>>> > > > > > >              >      > the markdown
>>> > > > > > >              >      > with just the copy edit changes?
>>> > > > > > >              >
>>> > > > > > >              >     [JM] As draft-ietf-mls-architecture is a long
>>> > > > > > >             document (41 pages PDF),
>>> > > > > > >              >     it would be time consuming to port the edits 
>>> > > > > > > into
>>> > > > > > >             markdown at this time.
>>> > > > > > >              >
>>> > > > > > >              >
>>> > > > > > >              > Indeed. I've made a repo for the XML [0]. It 
>>> > > > > > > will take me
>>> > > > > > >             some time to
>>> > > > > > >              > backport the changes to the .md file and provide 
>>> > > > > > > updated XML.
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > >             [JM] Understood, and the RPC is aiming to accept md 
>>> > > > > > > as a
>>> > > > > > >             submission
>>> > > > > > >             format in the future.
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > >             Is there another address for Alan Duric? 
>>> > > > > > > a...@wire.com
>>> > > > > > >             <mailto:a...@wire.com> bounced.
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > >             Best regards,
>>> > > > > > >             Jean
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > >              >
>>> > > > > > >              > -Ekr
>>> > > > > > >              >
>>> > > > > > >              >
>>> > > > > > >              > [0] https://github.com/ekr/rfc9750 
>>> > > > > > > <https://github.com/
>>> > > > > > >             ekr/rfc9750> <https://github.com/ekr/rfc9750 
>>> > > > > > > <https://
>>> > > > > > >             github.com/ekr/rfc9750>>
>>> > > > > > >              >
>>> > > > > > >              >
>>> > > > > > >              >
>>> > > > > > >              >     It would be much easier to start edits in 
>>> > > > > > > markdown in
>>> > > > > > >             a future
>>> > > > > > >              >     document.
>>> > > > > > >              >     If you have another markdown file that will 
>>> > > > > > > be
>>> > > > > > >             entering the queue soon,
>>> > > > > > >              >     please let us know, and we can provide an 
>>> > > > > > > updated
>>> > > > > > >             markdown file at the
>>> > > > > > >              >     beginning of AUTH48 as part of one of our 
>>> > > > > > > process
>>> > > > > > >             experiments.
>>> > > > > > >              >
>>> > > > > > >              >     Thanks and best regards,
>>> > > > > > >              >     RFC Editor/jm
>>> > > > > > >              >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      > -Ekr
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      > On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 3:16 PM 
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>>> > > > > > >             to ensure that the
>>> > > > > > >              >      >         formatted output, as generated 
>>> > > > > > > from the
>>> > > > > > >             markup in the XML
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>>> > > > > > >              >      >         reasonable.  Please note that the 
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>>> > > > > > >             have formatting
>>> > > > > > >              >      >         limitations compared to the PDF 
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>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
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>>> > > > > > > <mailto:rfc-
>>> > > > > > >             edi...@rfc-editor.org> <mailto:rfc-editor@rfc- 
>>> > > > > > > <mailto:rfc-
>>> > > > > > >             editor@rfc->
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>>> > > > > > > <mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-
>>> > > > > > >             editor.org <mailto:rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org> 
>>> > > > > > > <mailto:rfc-
>>> > > > > > >             <mailto:rfc->
>>> > > > > > >              > edi...@rfc-editor.org 
>>> > > > > > > <mailto:edi...@rfc-editor.org>>>
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     (the RPC team)
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >         *  other document participants, 
>>> > > > > > > depending
>>> > > > > > >             on the stream
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>>> > > > > > >              >      >            IETF Stream participants are 
>>> > > > > > > your
>>> > > > > > >             working group
>>> > > > > > >              >     chairs, the
>>> > > > > > >              >      >            responsible ADs, and the 
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>>> > > > > > >             shepherd).
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>>> > > > > > >             <mailto:auth48archive@rfc- 
>>> > > > > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc->
>>> > > > > > >              > editor.org <http://editor.org>>
>>> > > > > > >             <mailto:auth48archive@rfc- 
>>> > > > > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc->
>>> > > > > > >             <mailto:auth48archive@rfc- 
>>> > > > > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc->>
>>> > > > > > >              >      > editor.org <http://editor.org> 
>>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org
>>> > > > > > >             <http://editor.org>>>, which is a new archival 
>>> > > > > > > mailing list
>>> > > > > > >              >      >            to preserve AUTH48 
>>> > > > > > > conversations; it is
>>> > > > > > >             not an active
>>> > > > > > >              >     discussion
>>> > > > > > >              >      >            list:
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >           *  More info:
>>> > > > > > >              >      > 
>>> > > > > > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-
>>> > > > > > >             announce/ 
>>> > > > > > > <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-
>>> > > > > > >             announce/> <https://
>>> > > > > > >              > mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/ 
>>> > > > > > > <http://
>>> > > > > > >             mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/>>
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     yb6lpIGh-4Q9l2USxIAe6P8O4Zc <https://
>>> > > > > > >             mailarchive.ietf.org/ 
>>> > > > > > > <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/>
>>> > > > > > >              >     arch/msg/ 
>>> > > > > > > <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/
>>> > > > > > >             <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/>>
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     
>>> > > > > > > ietf-announce/yb6lpIGh-4Q9l2USxIAe6P8O4Zc>
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >           *  The archive itself:
>>> > > > > > >              >      > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/
>>> > > > > > >             auth48archive/ 
>>> > > > > > > <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/
>>> > > > > > >             auth48archive/> <https://
>>> > > > > > >              > mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/ 
>>> > > > > > > <http://
>>> > > > > > >             mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/>> 
>>> > > > > > > <https://
>>> > > > > > >              >      > 
>>> > > > > > > mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/
>>> > > > > > >             
>>> > > > > > > <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/>
>>> > > > > > >             <http://
>>> > > > > > >              > mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/ 
>>> > > > > > > <http://
>>> > > > > > >             mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/auth48archive/>>>
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
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>>> > > > > > >              >      >     out
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>>> > > > > > >             <mailto:auth48archive@rfc- 
>>> > > > > > > <mailto:auth48archive@rfc->
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>>> > > > > > >             <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>> > > > > > >             <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>
>>> > > > > > >              >     <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>> > > > > > >             <mailto:auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>>>
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>>> > > > > > >              >      >
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>>> > > > > > >              >      >       — OR —
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>>> > > > > > > format
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
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>>> > > > > > >              >      >     OLD:
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>>> > > > > > >              >      >
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>>> > > > > > >              >     explicit
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>>> > > > > > > sufficient.
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>>> > > > > > >             approve any
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>>> > > > > > >              >      >     beyond editorial in nature, e.g., 
>>> > > > > > > addition of
>>> > > > > > >             new text,
>>> > > > > > >              >     deletion of
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     text,
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     and technical changes.  Information 
>>> > > > > > > about
>>> > > > > > >             stream managers can be
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     found in
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     the FAQ.  Editorial changes do not 
>>> > > > > > > require
>>> > > > > > >             approval from a stream
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     manager.
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     Approving for publication
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     --------------------------
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     To approve your RFC for publication, 
>>> > > > > > > please
>>> > > > > > >             reply to this
>>> > > > > > >              >     email stating
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     that you approve this RFC for 
>>> > > > > > > publication. 
>>> > > > > > >             Please use ‘REPLY
>>> > > > > > >              >     ALL’,
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     as all the parties CCed on this 
>>> > > > > > > message need
>>> > > > > > >             to see your
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>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     Files
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     -----
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     The files are available here:
>>> > > > > > >              >      > 
>>> > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.xml
>>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.xml> 
>>> > > > > > > <https://
>>> > > > > > >             www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->
>>> > > > > > >              > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.xml 
>>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
>>> > > > > > >             authors/rfc9750.xml>> <https://www.rfc- 
>>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc->
>>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->>
>>> > > > > > >              >      > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.xml 
>>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
>>> > > > > > >             authors/rfc9750.xml> <http://editor.org/authors/ 
>>> > > > > > > <http://
>>> > > > > > >             editor.org/authors/>
>>> > > > > > >              >     rfc9750.xml>>
>>> > > > > > >              >      > 
>>> > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html
>>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html> 
>>> > > > > > > <https://
>>> > > > > > >             www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->
>>> > > > > > >              > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html 
>>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
>>> > > > > > >             authors/rfc9750.html>> <https://www.rfc- 
>>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc->
>>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->>
>>> > > > > > >              >      > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html <http://
>>> > > > > > >             editor.org/authors/rfc9750.html> 
>>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/authors/
>>> > > > > > >             <http://editor.org/authors/>
>>> > > > > > >              >     rfc9750.html>>
>>> > > > > > >              >      > 
>>> > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.pdf
>>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.pdf> 
>>> > > > > > > <https://
>>> > > > > > >             www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->
>>> > > > > > >              > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.pdf 
>>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
>>> > > > > > >             authors/rfc9750.pdf>> <https://www.rfc- 
>>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc->
>>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->>
>>> > > > > > >              >      > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.pdf 
>>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
>>> > > > > > >             authors/rfc9750.pdf> <http://editor.org/authors/ 
>>> > > > > > > <http://
>>> > > > > > >             editor.org/authors/>
>>> > > > > > >              >     rfc9750.pdf>>
>>> > > > > > >              >      > 
>>> > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.txt
>>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750.txt> 
>>> > > > > > > <https://
>>> > > > > > >             www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->
>>> > > > > > >              > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.txt 
>>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
>>> > > > > > >             authors/rfc9750.txt>> <https://www.rfc- 
>>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc->
>>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->>
>>> > > > > > >              >      > editor.org/authors/rfc9750.txt 
>>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
>>> > > > > > >             authors/rfc9750.txt> <http://editor.org/authors/ 
>>> > > > > > > <http://
>>> > > > > > >             editor.org/authors/>
>>> > > > > > >              >     rfc9750.txt>>
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     Diff file of the text:
>>> > > > > > >              >      > 
>>> > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-
>>> > > > > > >             diff.html 
>>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-
>>> > > > > > >             diff.html> <https://
>>> > > > > > >              > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html 
>>> > > > > > > <http://
>>> > > > > > >             www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html>> 
>>> > > > > > > <https://
>>> > > > > > >              >      > 
>>> > > > > > > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html
>>> > > > > > >             
>>> > > > > > > <http://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html>
>>> > > > > > >             <http://www.rfc- <http://www.rfc->
>>> > > > > > >              > editor.org/authors/rfc9750-diff.html 
>>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
>>> > > > > > >             authors/rfc9750-diff.html>>>
>>> > > > > > >              >      > 
>>> > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-
>>> > > > > > >             rfcdiff.html 
>>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-
>>> > > > > > >             rfcdiff.html> <https://
>>> > > > > > >              > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html 
>>> > > > > > > <http://
>>> > > > > > >             www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html>> 
>>> > > > > > > <https://
>>> > > > > > >              >      > 
>>> > > > > > > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html
>>> > > > > > >             
>>> > > > > > > <http://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html>
>>> > > > > > >             <http://www.rfc- <http://www.rfc->
>>> > > > > > >              > editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html <http://
>>> > > > > > >             editor.org/authors/rfc9750-rfcdiff.html>>> (side by 
>>> > > > > > > side)
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     Diff of the XML:
>>> > > > > > >              >      > 
>>> > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-
>>> > > > > > >             xmldiff1.html 
>>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-
>>> > > > > > >             xmldiff1.html>
>>> > > > > > >              >     <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-
>>> > > > > > >             xmldiff1.html 
>>> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-
>>> > > > > > >             xmldiff1.html>> <https://
>>> > > > > > >              >      > 
>>> > > > > > > www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html
>>> > > > > > >             
>>> > > > > > > <http://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html>
>>> > > > > > >             <http://www.rfc- <http://www.rfc->
>>> > > > > > >              > editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html <http://
>>> > > > > > >             editor.org/authors/rfc9750-xmldiff1.html>>>
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     Tracking progress
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     -----------------
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     The details of the AUTH48 status of 
>>> > > > > > > your
>>> > > > > > >             document are here:
>>> > > > > > >              >      > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9750
>>> > > > > > >             <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9750> 
>>> > > > > > > <https://
>>> > > > > > >             www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->
>>> > > > > > >              > editor.org/auth48/rfc9750 
>>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/auth48/
>>> > > > > > >             rfc9750>> <https://www.rfc- <https://www.rfc-> 
>>> > > > > > > <https://
>>> > > > > > >             www.rfc- <https://www.rfc->>
>>> > > > > > >              >      > editor.org/auth48/rfc9750 
>>> > > > > > > <http://editor.org/
>>> > > > > > >             auth48/rfc9750> <http://editor.org/auth48/rfc9750 
>>> > > > > > > <http://
>>> > > > > > >             editor.org/auth48/rfc9750>>>
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     Please let us know if you have any 
>>> > > > > > > questions.
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     Thank you for your cooperation,
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     RFC Editor
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     --------------------------------------
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     RFC 9750 
>>> > > > > > > (draft-ietf-mls-architecture-15)
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     Title            : The Messaging Layer
>>> > > > > > >             Security (MLS)
>>> > > > > > >              >     Architecture
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     Author(s)        : B. Beurdouche, E. 
>>> > > > > > > Rescorla,
>>> > > > > > >             E. Omara, S.
>>> > > > > > >              >     Inguva,
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     A. Duric
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     WG Chair(s)      : Nick Sullivan, 
>>> > > > > > > Sean Turner
>>> > > > > > >              >      >     Area Director(s) : Deb Cooley, Paul 
>>> > > > > > > Wouters
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >      >
>>> > > > > > >              >
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > 
>>> > > 
>>> > 
>>> 
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