Ohio is 18 inches and some people tell me neighboring states are 24 inches horizontally.
>The bug concern is vertical That's what I'm talking about - if you're below or above the 3 inch pipe, that's a 3 inch variance. >If I was paying id spec the trace be attached to the product Can you get tracer wire built onto plumbing pipe? On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 5:01 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > if youre paying to be able to trace, that trace should be exact, no > tolerance on installation. My locator it most of the time dead on. The bug > concern is vertical. If the pipe is sitting at 48" but the trace is coiled > up to 24, some yahoo isnt gonna pothole and drill under it. Nobody gives a > shit about liability when their utility is blasted, they want their utility > back on. A sloppy trace also causes cut tracers that dont get spliced. We > are supposed to pothole to the side of the mark to avoid hitting the > utility top on. > If I was paying id spec the trace be attached to the product > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 3:25 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > >> How big of a pipe would it have to be for that to be a concern? I would >> think ~3 inches of variance is within the spec of the locator. >> >> On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 4:20 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> stand over them when theyre putting it in to make sure they dont just >>> randomly toss it in the open trench. you dont want it toning out at a >>> different depth/horizontal because it coiled up. especially if theyre doing >>> a wide trench excavation. >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:39 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> All these seem to be UF >>>> https://www.plumbersstock.com/water-works/tracer-wire.html >>>> >>>> *From:* Carl Peterson >>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 9, 2023 10:18 AM >>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Direct bury tracer wire >>>> reccomendations/experience. >>>> >>>> We specced safe-trace with 1800lb pullback strength for our current >>>> project and will likely makenthat the standard for anything drilled in >>>> moving forward. Not sure it is overkill. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:05 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> 14 gauge is rugged and will last. I think the gas company out here >>>>> uses 14 gauge. 20 gauge on up is not terribly strong. UDOT recently >>>>> changed their spec for the tracer molded into MD7 microduct from 20 gauge >>>>> to 14 gauge. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 9, 2023 9:37 AM >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Direct bury tracer wire >>>>> reccomendations/experience. >>>>> >>>>> Don't you have some random copper laying around? Our fiber tracer >>>>> wire is 24 awg. Just place the conductive wire in the same hole as the >>>>> water/sewer lines. The color is kind of pointless but I guess you could >>>>> spend the money and follow the rules *shrug*. >>>>> >>>>> If the wire ends the locate ends. Why not just extend the wire with >>>>> the new pipe? >>>>> >>>>> 14 gauge seems like way too big if you ask me, that's a lot of money >>>>> down that new sewer line. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:31 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) < >>>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm working on doing specs for a project (home) which will require >>>>>> burying new water and sewer lines on the property. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm tired of not being able to locate these after they're buried so I >>>>>> plan on having the contractor bury some tracer wire along with the >>>>>> plumbing. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've learned that the best option for things like this is to either >>>>>> spec or provide exactly what I want buried. Otherwise you'll end up >>>>>> with >>>>>> some inexperienced contractor which installs something which won't work. >>>>>> >>>>>> Apparently the choices for tracer wire are far more varied than I had >>>>>> expected. Insulation, metal type, gauge, color, and so on. >>>>>> >>>>>> It looks like 14AWG copper HMWPE might be what I'm looking for. But >>>>>> there are other options as well. Does any of this work better or is >>>>>> less >>>>>> (or more) likely to be damaged in a way which makes it untraceable? I'm >>>>>> assuming green and blue will be needed for sewer and water. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think the following will apply, but there is also the >>>>>> possibility that at least one of the lines won't terminate at one end >>>>>> anywhere that we can poke the wire up above the ground (tapping into >>>>>> existing line) I'm assuming that one can resolve this by laying a ground >>>>>> rod in the trench and terminating to that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any other things I should watch for here? >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Carl Peterson >>>> >>>> *PORT NETWORKS* >>>> >>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >>>> >>>> Baltimore, MD 21202 >>>> >>>> (410) 637-3707 >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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