We specced safe-trace with 1800lb pullback strength for our current project
and will likely makenthat the standard for anything drilled in moving
forward.  Not sure it is overkill.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:05 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

> 14 gauge is rugged and will last.  I think the gas company out here uses
> 14 gauge.  20 gauge on up is not terribly strong.  UDOT recently changed
> their spec for the tracer molded into MD7 microduct from 20 gauge to 14
> gauge.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, January 9, 2023 9:37 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Direct bury tracer wire reccomendations/experience.
>
> Don't you have some random copper laying around?  Our fiber tracer wire is
> 24 awg.  Just place the conductive wire in the same hole as the water/sewer
> lines.  The color is kind of pointless but I guess you could spend the
> money and follow the rules *shrug*.
>
> If the wire ends the locate ends.  Why not just extend the wire with the
> new pipe?
>
> 14 gauge seems like way too big if you ask me, that's a lot of money down
> that new sewer line.
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:31 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm working on doing specs for a project (home) which will require
>> burying new water and sewer lines on the property.
>>
>> I'm tired of not being able to locate these after they're buried so I
>> plan on having the contractor bury some tracer wire along with the plumbing.
>>
>> I've learned that the best option for things like this is to either spec
>> or provide exactly what I want buried.   Otherwise you'll end up with some
>> inexperienced contractor which installs something which won't work.
>>
>> Apparently the choices for tracer wire are far more varied than I had
>> expected.  Insulation,  metal type, gauge, color, and so on.
>>
>> It looks like 14AWG copper HMWPE might be what I'm looking for.  But
>> there are other options as well.    Does any of this work better or is less
>> (or more) likely to be damaged in a way which makes it untraceable?  I'm
>> assuming green and blue will be needed for sewer and water.
>>
>> I don't think the following will apply, but there is also the possibility
>> that at least one of the lines won't terminate at one end anywhere that we
>> can poke the wire up above the ground (tapping into existing line) I'm
>> assuming that one can resolve this by laying a ground rod in the trench and
>> terminating to that.
>>
>> Any other things I should watch for here?
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