stand over them when theyre putting it in to make sure they dont just
randomly toss it in the open trench. you dont want it toning out at a
different depth/horizontal because it coiled up. especially if theyre doing
a wide trench excavation.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:39 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

> All these seem to be UF
> https://www.plumbersstock.com/water-works/tracer-wire.html
>
> *From:* Carl Peterson
> *Sent:* Monday, January 9, 2023 10:18 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Direct bury tracer wire reccomendations/experience.
>
> We specced safe-trace with 1800lb pullback strength for our current
> project and will likely makenthat the standard for anything drilled in
> moving forward.  Not sure it is overkill.
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:05 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
> wrote:
>
>> 14 gauge is rugged and will last.  I think the gas company out here uses
>> 14 gauge.  20 gauge on up is not terribly strong.  UDOT recently changed
>> their spec for the tracer molded into MD7 microduct from 20 gauge to 14
>> gauge.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 9, 2023 9:37 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Direct bury tracer wire
>> reccomendations/experience.
>>
>> Don't you have some random copper laying around?  Our fiber tracer wire
>> is 24 awg.  Just place the conductive wire in the same hole as the
>> water/sewer lines.  The color is kind of pointless but I guess you could
>> spend the money and follow the rules *shrug*.
>>
>> If the wire ends the locate ends.  Why not just extend the wire with the
>> new pipe?
>>
>> 14 gauge seems like way too big if you ask me, that's a lot of money down
>> that new sewer line.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:31 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm working on doing specs for a project (home) which will require
>>> burying new water and sewer lines on the property.
>>>
>>> I'm tired of not being able to locate these after they're buried so I
>>> plan on having the contractor bury some tracer wire along with the plumbing.
>>>
>>> I've learned that the best option for things like this is to either spec
>>> or provide exactly what I want buried.   Otherwise you'll end up with some
>>> inexperienced contractor which installs something which won't work.
>>>
>>> Apparently the choices for tracer wire are far more varied than I had
>>> expected.  Insulation,  metal type, gauge, color, and so on.
>>>
>>> It looks like 14AWG copper HMWPE might be what I'm looking for.  But
>>> there are other options as well.    Does any of this work better or is less
>>> (or more) likely to be damaged in a way which makes it untraceable?  I'm
>>> assuming green and blue will be needed for sewer and water.
>>>
>>> I don't think the following will apply, but there is also the
>>> possibility that at least one of the lines won't terminate at one end
>>> anywhere that we can poke the wire up above the ground (tapping into
>>> existing line) I'm assuming that one can resolve this by laying a ground
>>> rod in the trench and terminating to that.
>>>
>>> Any other things I should watch for here?
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