How big of a pipe would it have to be for that to be a concern?  I would
think ~3 inches of variance is within the spec of the locator.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 4:20 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> stand over them when theyre putting it in to make sure they dont just
> randomly toss it in the open trench. you dont want it toning out at a
> different depth/horizontal because it coiled up. especially if theyre doing
> a wide trench excavation.
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:39 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
> wrote:
>
>> All these seem to be UF
>> https://www.plumbersstock.com/water-works/tracer-wire.html
>>
>> *From:* Carl Peterson
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 9, 2023 10:18 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Direct bury tracer wire
>> reccomendations/experience.
>>
>> We specced safe-trace with 1800lb pullback strength for our current
>> project and will likely makenthat the standard for anything drilled in
>> moving forward.  Not sure it is overkill.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:05 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 14 gauge is rugged and will last.  I think the gas company out here uses
>>> 14 gauge.  20 gauge on up is not terribly strong.  UDOT recently changed
>>> their spec for the tracer molded into MD7 microduct from 20 gauge to 14
>>> gauge.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 9, 2023 9:37 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Direct bury tracer wire
>>> reccomendations/experience.
>>>
>>> Don't you have some random copper laying around?  Our fiber tracer wire
>>> is 24 awg.  Just place the conductive wire in the same hole as the
>>> water/sewer lines.  The color is kind of pointless but I guess you could
>>> spend the money and follow the rules *shrug*.
>>>
>>> If the wire ends the locate ends.  Why not just extend the wire with the
>>> new pipe?
>>>
>>> 14 gauge seems like way too big if you ask me, that's a lot of money
>>> down that new sewer line.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:31 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm working on doing specs for a project (home) which will require
>>>> burying new water and sewer lines on the property.
>>>>
>>>> I'm tired of not being able to locate these after they're buried so I
>>>> plan on having the contractor bury some tracer wire along with the 
>>>> plumbing.
>>>>
>>>> I've learned that the best option for things like this is to either
>>>> spec or provide exactly what I want buried.   Otherwise you'll end up with
>>>> some inexperienced contractor which installs something which won't work.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently the choices for tracer wire are far more varied than I had
>>>> expected.  Insulation,  metal type, gauge, color, and so on.
>>>>
>>>> It looks like 14AWG copper HMWPE might be what I'm looking for.  But
>>>> there are other options as well.    Does any of this work better or is less
>>>> (or more) likely to be damaged in a way which makes it untraceable?  I'm
>>>> assuming green and blue will be needed for sewer and water.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think the following will apply, but there is also the
>>>> possibility that at least one of the lines won't terminate at one end
>>>> anywhere that we can poke the wire up above the ground (tapping into
>>>> existing line) I'm assuming that one can resolve this by laying a ground
>>>> rod in the trench and terminating to that.
>>>>
>>>> Any other things I should watch for here?
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