All these seem to be UF
https://www.plumbersstock.com/water-works/tracer-wire.html

From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 10:18 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Direct bury tracer wire reccomendations/experience.

We specced safe-trace with 1800lb pullback strength for our current project and 
will likely makenthat the standard for anything drilled in moving forward.  Not 
sure it is overkill.  

On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:05 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

  14 gauge is rugged and will last.  I think the gas company out here uses 14 
gauge.  20 gauge on up is not terribly strong.  UDOT recently changed their 
spec for the tracer molded into MD7 microduct from 20 gauge to 14 gauge.  

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 9:37 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Direct bury tracer wire reccomendations/experience.

  Don't you have some random copper laying around?  Our fiber tracer wire is 24 
awg.  Just place the conductive wire in the same hole as the water/sewer lines. 
 The color is kind of pointless but I guess you could spend the money and 
follow the rules *shrug*. 

  If the wire ends the locate ends.  Why not just extend the wire with the new 
pipe?


  14 gauge seems like way too big if you ask me, that's a lot of money down 
that new sewer line.

  On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:31 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) 
<li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

    I'm working on doing specs for a project (home) which will require burying 
new water and sewer lines on the property. 

    I'm tired of not being able to locate these after they're buried so I plan 
on having the contractor bury some tracer wire along with the plumbing.

    I've learned that the best option for things like this is to either spec or 
provide exactly what I want buried.   Otherwise you'll end up with some 
inexperienced contractor which installs something which won't work. 

    Apparently the choices for tracer wire are far more varied than I had 
expected.  Insulation,  metal type, gauge, color, and so on. 

    It looks like 14AWG copper HMWPE might be what I'm looking for.  But there 
are other options as well.    Does any of this work better or is less (or more) 
likely to be damaged in a way which makes it untraceable?  I'm assuming green 
and blue will be needed for sewer and water. 

    I don't think the following will apply, but there is also the possibility 
that at least one of the lines won't terminate at one end anywhere that we can 
poke the wire up above the ground (tapping into existing line) I'm assuming 
that one can resolve this by laying a ground rod in the trench and terminating 
to that. 

    Any other things I should watch for here?
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