Re: -inetd option with RH7.2

2002-03-05 Thread Brian Turner
Jeff, `ps -A | grep dm` doesn't show anything (well, sendmail :) ). I tried to follow this through: inittab starts a script called 'prefdm' which appears to identify the correct dm and start it with the -nodaemon switch. I understand this suppresses kdm from running in the background? This is

Re: WinVNC & -nevershared

2002-03-05 Thread Alex Angelopoulos
As you put that, I would have to agree. The flaw we're dealing with here is a mix of *usage* and hacks to make it work on Windows. Most applications rely on their environment for critical services - security being one of those. When you look at the role that VNC plays, the primary issues come d

RE: WinVNC & -nevershared

2002-03-05 Thread Rob Kenyon
I am so glad that you're able to confirm my findings. There are times when you doubt yourself. It's funny that given all the security concerns that are flowing around VNC (tunnelling and handshaking and all that) that something that is so easy to do on WinVNC isn't seen as a risk. I guess I cou

Re: WinVNC & -nevershared

2002-03-05 Thread Alex Angelopoulos
I did another run, attempting a /noshared switch on Client A, setting loglevel to 11. Client B can still connect by specifying /shared. A's client log shows no traces of anything - not even any bobbles that could be used as a *clue* that another session was attempted. - Original Message

Re: WinVNC & -nevershared

2002-03-05 Thread Alex Angelopoulos
Yep. I can confirm. Registry setting ConnectPriority 2 on the server. Client A connects. Client B attempts to connect, and has the connection instantly closed. Client B then attempts to connect AGAIN, specifying the /shared switch - and successfully connects, making it a shared session. ---

Re: WinVNC & -nevershared

2002-03-05 Thread Alex Angelopoulos
??!! I see what you're saying; I'm checking this out now. - Original Message - From: "Rob Kenyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday/2002 March 05 20.21 Subject: RE: WinVNC & -nevershared : I did. : : I can honestly state that I actually read the docs before post

RE: WinVNC & -nevershared

2002-03-05 Thread Rob Kenyon
I did. I can honestly state that I actually read the docs before posting. Notice that "ConnectPriority" states: By default, all WinVNC servers will disconnect any existing connections when an incoming, non-shared connection is authenticated. This behaviour is undesirable when the server machi

Re: shutdown gotcha with Win32 host

2002-03-05 Thread Seanster
One workaround is psshutdown.exe. It's available at sysinternals.com in the misc utils section. You can force a reboot of a remote windows system with it. If the machine is already in shutdown mode, you can use pslist and pskill to find and nuke whatever it is that is holding up the reboot process

Re: shutdown gotcha with Win32 host

2002-03-05 Thread Alex Angelopoulos
Unfortunately, I believe that is Windows refusing the connection when you shutdown - and you are right, it is incredibly annoying. - Original Message - From: "Matt Swift" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday/2002 March 05 17.46 Subject: shutdown gotcha with Win32 hos

RE: shutdown gotcha with Win32 host

2002-03-05 Thread Lee Brown
There is a way to reboot, but I only know how to do it programatically: ExitWindowsEx(EWX_FORCE | EWX_REBOOT ,0); [from the help] Forces processes to terminate. When this flag is set, Windows does not send the messages WM_QUERYENDSESSION and WM_ENDSESSION to the applications currently running in

RE: shift key getting "stuck" on for mouse operations

2002-03-05 Thread Sharma, Shashi
I dont know whether this will work or not(I am not able to reproduce the problem) but you may try Select the vncviewer window press Shift Key (and keeping it pressed) select any other window and release the shift key. If this doesnt work try Select any window (other than vncviewer) and press Shi

shutdown gotcha with Win32 host

2002-03-05 Thread Matt Swift
When running VNC as a service on Win2k, one can reboot the host machine via the remote client. The machine reboots, the service runs, and one can reconnect with the client, log in, and so on -- *unless* during the shutdown process Windows encounters a program that it cannot close (most notably,

RE: shift key getting "stuck" on for mouse operations

2002-03-05 Thread Lee Brown
This sounds similar (but not quite the same) as a Windows issue I have observed since at least Win95, maybe earlier. This affects all windows applications. The only fix I can usually apply is to press the offending stuck key, hoping Windows will see the release event (careful because there are g

shift key getting "stuck" on for mouse operations

2002-03-05 Thread Matt Swift
I have searched around on this list and web sources but found no mention of a problem that confronts me regularly when using both the X and Win32 viewers to connect to a Win32 host. The connection can get corrupted in such a way that the shift key is permanently down with respect to mouse clicks.

RE: tightvnc vs "loose" vnc

2002-03-05 Thread Jacob Hoover
>What OS would you need this for? I cobbeled a C++ app together and used the >VNC functions vncDecryptPasswd and vncEncryptPasswd. From this, I can view >the password of a remote machine. I don't think this would be that big of a >problem, but I have to enumerate the HKEY_USERS registry key to

Re: Restricting IP

2002-03-05 Thread Michael Ossmann
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 12:18:39PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > IN the VNC addons, there is a note on restricting access via IP > using TCP wrappers. However there is a disclaimer at the top > saying VNC server has similar functionality built in, but no details on > how to use it. Anyone

Re: header for compression codec

2002-03-05 Thread Michael Ossmann
On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 08:51:31PM +, Jens Wagner wrote: > > The idea is to just move a .so file like codec_zlib.so into ~/.rfb, > and have all programs (like Xvnc, WinVNC, vncviewer,...) using that > dynamic library for (de)compression. On windows, this would be a .dll > file of course, but

RE: tightvnc vs "loose" vnc

2002-03-05 Thread Jacob Hoover
What OS would you need this for? I cobbeled a C++ app together and used the VNC functions vncDecryptPasswd and vncEncryptPasswd. From this, I can view the password of a remote machine. I don't think this would be that big of a problem, but I have to enumerate the HKEY_USERS registry key to find

Re: tightvnc vs "loose" vnc

2002-03-05 Thread Alex Angelopoulos
That shouldn't be a problem. You still have to grab an encrypted value, but you plug the pre-encrypted version into the policy template. - Original Message - From: "Jacob Hoover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday/2002 March 05 15.45 Subject: RE: tightvnc vs "loose

Re: CDE Display with Tight VNC

2002-03-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
>I have a Tight VNC server running on Solaris 8 and CDE with all the defaults. >However, when the server is viewed (using Tight VNC viewer) the menu bar at >the bottom is crunched together horizontally. Also, right clicking on the >screen yields a menu with missing options. /usr/dt/bin/Xsession

RE: tightvnc vs "loose" vnc

2002-03-05 Thread Jacob Hoover
I have a policy for VNC by System Management Technologies Software, but for the life of me I can't find the URL where I got it from. However, it dosen't have the password as an option. The password get's encrypted before it gets saved, so I don't think it can be done with a policy editor. Jake

CDE Display with Tight VNC

2002-03-05 Thread Charlie Magnuson
Hello, I have a Tight VNC server running on Solaris 8 and CDE with all the defaults. However, when the server is viewed (using Tight VNC viewer) the menu bar at the bottom is crunched together horizontally. Also, right clicking on the screen yields a menu with missing options. /usr/dt/bin/Xsess

Re: tightvnc vs "loose" vnc

2002-03-05 Thread Alex Angelopoulos
One of the annoyances of VNC is what it is. The issue goes back to the fact that implementing a central password system for Windows systems (or a remotely changeable one) would have required all sorts of (potentially unreliable) additions. So the same issue applies across the board to standard VN

tightvnc vs "loose" vnc

2002-03-05 Thread Wilmes, Rusty
Hi, Our current plan is to deploy vnc server to our client 9x computers via a login.bat installation that will install, run registry files etc. Currently it runs via the startup programs the first time but subsequently installs as a service so that it's running even before the user logs in. Th

Re: WinVNC & -nevershared

2002-03-05 Thread Michael Ossmann
On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 06:59:11PM -0700, Rob Kenyon wrote: > As my message stated, ConnectPriorty works fine, but it doesn't prevent > a second user from requesting a shared session, connecting and seeing > the first user's screen. Yes, but did you actually try setting it to 2, not 1? -- Mik

Restricting IP

2002-03-05 Thread tgraham
IN the VNC addons, there is a note on restricting access via IP using TCP wrappers. However there is a disclaimer at the top saying VNC server has similar functionality built in, but no details on how to use it. Anyone have any information on doing this? Thanks ---

RE: RE : winvncdrv & NT4 (was: winvncdrv new version available)

2002-03-05 Thread Jacob Hoover
I have a different problem. I'm missing a dependancy from the VNCDRV.SYS file so I'm afraid to try to install it. When I scan the VNCDRV.SYS file with dependency walker it says I'm missing VIDEOPRT.SYS. The other thing that concerns me is the VNCDRV.SYS file attributes: Copyright: Copy

Re: RE : winvncdrv & NT4 (was: winvncdrv new version available)

2002-03-05 Thread Tim Senecal
On my machine the driver won't even install, what did you do to get it to install? Tim At 12:05 PM 3/5/2002 +, you wrote: >I am also trying to get this VNC driver working on NT4. I have SP6a >(enhanced encryption), and I cannot get the driver to work. > >I noticed that the driver DID instal

Re: Win2000 client crash (Driver IRQL not less or equal)

2002-03-05 Thread Andrew Crowe
Hi Everybody, > One other thing - when it's safe to crash your computer - could you grab a > *tiny* bit more of the blue-screen? the first 8 digits or so are usually good, > after that its all the debug information that no one but someone trying to run > a shuttle launch would worry about. ***

Re: -inetd option with RH7.2

2002-03-05 Thread Jeff Vincent
Forgive my asking but are you sure you are using kdm and not some other display manager like gdm, xdm, etc.? It is possible to be running KDE 2.2 desktop w/ some other display manager underneath I believe. If you are running gdm you can run gdmconfig (GUI front end to gdm config file) to enable

Re: Hardware Version of VNC

2002-03-05 Thread Alex Angelopoulos
Please, do Stacy. - Original Message - From: "Stacy D. Coil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday/2002 March 05 11.15 Subject: Re: Hardware Version of VNC : FYI, : : I will be taking a look at this product today to see if this will be a good : fit for our "lights

Re: Hardware Version of VNC

2002-03-05 Thread Stacy D. Coil
FYI, I will be taking a look at this product today to see if this will be a good fit for our "lights out" control of our servers. If you would like, I will post comments/review here. --Stacy Stacy D. Coil Director, Information Technology The Ohio State University Alumni Association, Inc. Col

RE: Right-clicks from a Mac

2002-03-05 Thread Jonathan Morton
>So in sum -- VNCThing and a two button mouse was a >simple solution that was non-invasive to my friend's >machine. I recommend you try that. I also got some >helpful and prompt support from Jonathan Morton on this >list who I believe is the developer. I'm not the developer of VNCThing (the clien

RE: Right-clicks from a Mac

2002-03-05 Thread Alexander Inglis
Ian: I had to use a mac i-book for ten days over new year's to do the same thing -- monitor and work on some remote windows servers. I hadn't touched a mac in year's and the i-book belonged to my (non-techie) friend. I installed VNC-Thing (this was mentioned a couple of notes ago in this thr

TightVNC 1.2.2 Refresh

2002-03-05 Thread James Pifer
I'm running TightVNC 1.2.2 on Windows 2000. It works fine but after a disconnect the icons in Windows Explorer have a grey background to them. It doesn't get "fixed" until I relogin to Windows 2000. Anyone know what is causing this and how to resolve it? It's just a little annoying. Thanks, Jame

Re: Hardware VNC / Redux - ThinkNIC

2002-03-05 Thread Lee Allen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Think NIC's are 800x600 too.. its why i didnt get one when they > first came out.. :( Not according to their web page: Frequently Asked Questions about the NIC Hardware What resolutions does the video support? The NIC can be set to automatically detect and set the res

Re: Win2000 client crash (Driver IRQL not less or equal)

2002-03-05 Thread Alex Angelopoulos
: : I would have only thought it would be a problem if the VNC window was on the : SIS card? Also I haven't had any other trouble with the card with other : apps. (Plus it worked in 98) : : > On reboot, what kind of error : > mesages do you have in the log (if any prior to the generic "unexpected

Re: Right-clicks from a Mac

2002-03-05 Thread Alex Angelopoulos
- Original Message - From: "Adrian Umpleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday/2002 March 05 09.01 Subject: Re: Right-clicks from a Mac : >I'm VNCing to a Windows machine from a Mac, and can't find a way of : >sending right-clicks. : : It depends which VNC client y

Re: Right-clicks from a Mac

2002-03-05 Thread Adrian Umpleby
>I'm VNCing to a Windows machine from a Mac, and can't find a way of >sending right-clicks. It depends which VNC client you are using on the Mac. If it is the AT&T client, there are a whole host of settings for key mapping available from the "Global Key Map" in the File menu. I think the defaul

Re: Right-clicks from a Mac

2002-03-05 Thread Jonathan Morton
>I'm VNCing to a Windows machine from a Mac, and can't find a way of >sending right-clicks. > >Can anyone enlighten me? http://www.webthing.net/vncthing/ -- -- from: Jonathan "Chromatix" Morton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not fo

Re: winvncdrv new version available

2002-03-05 Thread John Creegan
What *I* can't figure out is what to do with it once I've got it downloaded. How does one incorporate the video driver, other than perhaps downloading the source, making a change and recompiling? >: Considering the originator (R. De V.), I'm certain that this is a truly >: innovative solution t

Re: Right-clicks from a Mac

2002-03-05 Thread Ian Cowley
No, that doesn't send a right-click. Have discovered that pressing the apple button and 3 together sends a right-button down, and releasing them sends right-up. -- Ian Cowley Randomly stabbing at buttons At 13:37 05/03/2002, you wrote: >Maybe with CTRL+click or OPTION+click just as with any

RE: Right-clicks from a Mac

2002-03-05 Thread Ian Cowley
F10 upsets the Mac I'm on. Brings up the key control panel or something. Having very little knowledge of Macs and this being someone else's, I don't want to start upsetting things. -- Ian Cowley At 13:26 05/03/2002, you wrote: >Usually Shift+F10 will activate the context menu in Windows for

Re: Right-clicks from a Mac

2002-03-05 Thread Franck Chevalier
Maybe with CTRL+click or OPTION+click just as with any other mac app ? - Original Message - From: "Ian Cowley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: Right-clicks from a Mac > I'm VNCing to a Windows machine from a Mac, and can't find

RE: Right-clicks from a Mac

2002-03-05 Thread Nick Palmer
Usually Shift+F10 will activate the context menu in Windows for the current item - is that any help? Nick Palmer IT Manager > -Original Message- > From: Ian Cowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 March 2002 13:07 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Right-clicks from a Mac > > > I

Re: Win2000 client crash (Driver IRQL not less or equal)

2002-03-05 Thread Andrew Crowe
Hi Everybody, > What's the video driver setup you have? I'm using the latest GForce drivers from Nvidia, and the SIS driver that came with Windows 2000 (if I use any other SIS driver then the dual display stops working) > I would say that your problem is the SiS 6326 off the top of my head, but

Re: Win2000 client crash (Driver IRQL not less or equal)

2002-03-05 Thread Andrew Crowe
Hi Everybody, > Got a firewall? Is it the same one you used on Windows 98? Yes, and yes the same one as I used in Win98 (VNC has full access). When it's safe to crash my computer I'll try turning the firewall off and see what happens Andrew ---

Right-clicks from a Mac

2002-03-05 Thread Ian Cowley
I'm VNCing to a Windows machine from a Mac, and can't find a way of sending right-clicks. Can anyone enlighten me? -- Ian Cowley Webmaster, Christ's College, Cambridge University [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 01223 500313 / 07979 474830 --

Hardware VNC / Redux - ThinkNIC

2002-03-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Think NIC's are 800x600 too.. its why i didnt get one when they first came out.. :( *** Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:16:32 -0500 From: "Lee Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Hardware VNC / Redux How about an alternative? www.thinknic.com $200US device boots Linux from a CD, several applicati

RE: Win2000 client crash (Driver IRQL not less or equal)

2002-03-05 Thread Richard Clegg
Got a firewall? Is it the same one you used on Windows 98? -Original Message- From: Andrew Crowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 March 2002 11:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Win2000 client crash (Driver IRQL not less or equal) Hi Everyone, I'm having trouble running the VNC cli

RE : winvncdrv & NT4 (was: winvncdrv new version available)

2002-03-05 Thread MGillespie
I am also trying to get this VNC driver working on NT4. I have SP6a (enhanced encryption), and I cannot get the driver to work. I noticed that the driver DID install, it is listed in devices as vncdrv , and it's startup type is set to "system", but the driver is not running. If I try to start th

Re: Win2000 client crash (Driver IRQL not less or equal)

2002-03-05 Thread Alex Angelopoulos
What's the video driver setup you have? I would say that your problem is the SiS 6326 off the top of my head, but I can't claim to have "Regression-tested" the idea - just had a couple of bad experiences with that series of SIS cards. On reboot, what kind of error mesages do you have in the log

Win2000 client crash (Driver IRQL not less or equal)

2002-03-05 Thread Andrew Crowe
Hi Everyone, I'm having trouble running the VNC client on my Windows2000 machine. Whenever I'm connected to my other machine through VNC, after a random (usually short) period it bombs my system with this error: "Driver IRQL not less or equal" (fatal blue screen). This happens both with VNCv

RE: RTL8029.SYS

2002-03-05 Thread Klaas-Jan Doeven
Just go to: www.realtek.com.tw or directly: ftp://152.104.125.40/lancard/drivers/8029/win98-8029(508).zip and download the proper driver, for your Operating System it is the driver for a NIC (Network Interface Card) with a realtek 8029 chipset. Let windows look for this driver in the folder where

RE: RTL8029.SYS

2002-03-05 Thread Martin Kemp
Andrew, I believe the file you're after will not actually be on the 98 disk - windows 98 is a bit weird in that it will try to get it from the 98 disk even though it's actually a 3rd party driver for a RTL 8029 network card. I know this from bitter experience. I can't remember where I got the dri

RTL8029.SYS

2002-03-05 Thread Andrew Cornish
Good Morning People I wonder if you can help me I looking for a certain file and I was just wondering if any of you have it and could you sent it to me the file is called"rtl8029.sys " it's a network system file it's suppose to be on the Win98SE disk. and with out this file I can not set my

Re: -inetd option with RH7.2

2002-03-05 Thread Brian Turner
Thanks for the input. I already anticipated that would be a problem and chose no security. - Original Message - From: "Beerse, Corni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:40 PM Subject: RE: -inetd option with RH7.2 > I had the same problem after i

RE: -inetd option with RH7.2

2002-03-05 Thread "Beerse, Corné"
I had the same problem after installing RH 7.2 with the default options. Install time one can choose for high, medium, low and no security. Default is medium. After re-installing with no security, it works. Since the machine does not need any security, I leave it this way. A (less likely) differe

Re: -inetd option with RH7.2

2002-03-05 Thread Brian Turner
Thanks Tim; that makes sense. I still only get the grey screen though and UDP port 177 isn't open. Thanks again. - Original Message - From: "Tim Waugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 8:57 PM Subject: Re: -inetd option with RH7.2 > On Tue, Mar

Re: -inetd option with RH7.2

2002-03-05 Thread Tim Waugh
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 08:47:45PM +1100, Brian Turner wrote: > and for Xaccess I uncommented one line to read: > any host can get a login windows It should read: * Tim. */ [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] -

VNC Security (yes... again)

2002-03-05 Thread Franck Chevalier
Well... Me again for another question (am I dumb ?) I tried to grant the VNC access to only 1 IP (mine). Then I created the /HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/ORL/WINVNC/AuthHosts key registry with the following value : +999.999.999.999 (where 999.999.999.999 is my IP) and I kept the /HKEY_LOCAL_MACH

-inetd option with RH7.2

2002-03-05 Thread Brian Turner
I am having trouble getting vnc to work with the -inetd option and would appreciate some assistance. I am a relative newbie so your patience is appreciated. I have searched the archives for several hours before this. I have a fresh installation of RH7.2 (also tried RH7.1), using KDE 2.2. Starti

Re: keyboard failure , key-strokes?!

2002-03-05 Thread Alex Angelopoulos
You can also usually do this via an added . I don't expect to see it "fixed" since it isn't really "broken". The problem is that your local system typically hooks events from special key combinations, and passing keystrokes has to depend on various workarounds. You can pass Ctl-Alt-Del on Wind

Re: VNC Security ?

2002-03-05 Thread Franck Chevalier
It works ! Thanx a lot ! Franck - Original Message - From: "Alex Angelopoulos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 7:44 PM Subject: Re: VNC Security ? > What is the OS of the server? Assuming it's a Windows system, the answer is in > the documentati

RE: Thin client security presentation

2002-03-05 Thread "Beerse, Corné"
> I will be speaking at Rubi Con (http://www.rubi-con.org/) in > April about > thin client and remote desktop security. I'll discuss Citrix, > Tarantella, VNC, the X window system, Windows Terminal Services, and > possibly some other things. The best hidden secret in the vnc documentation is th

RE: keyboard failure , key-strokes?!

2002-03-05 Thread Klaas-Jan Doeven
Thanks for the tip! But why is this, and is it changeable? Or will it be in a future release of VNC? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Fisher, Dave Verzonden: maandag 4 maart 2002 19:37 Aan: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Onderwerp: RE: keyboard failure