Re: networking - fail2ban will not start on some installs (x64)

On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 09:48 +0300, Cristian Sava wrote: > On installs where iface reported by "route" command is not the same with > ifcfg-iface (pxpy instead of enpxsy or ethx) fail2ban will not start. > Does not matter if biosdevname=0 or net.ifnames=0 on the kernel line. > Tested this on real ha

networking - fail2ban will not start on some installs (x64)

On installs where iface reported by "route" command is not the same with ifcfg-iface (pxpy instead of enpxsy or ethx) fail2ban will not start. Does not matter if biosdevname=0 or net.ifnames=0 on the kernel line. Tested this on real hardware and on VirualBox too. From /var/log/messages: fail2ban-c

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

On Monday, July 08, 2013 01:31:01 PM Daniel J Walsh wrote: > If you read the sshd_config file, it states. > > # If you want to change the port on a SELinux system, you have to tell > # SELinux about this change. > # semanage port -a -t ssh_port_t -p tcp #PORTNUMBER > # > #Port 22 How would I go

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On 07/08/2013 05:52 PM, lee wrote: If that is true, then why does it happen to me? Why didn't the upgrade work last time, and why does a simple "yum update" try to trick me into upgrading, and why does booting fail after that? There isn't anything special here. It happens to you because it's

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Reindl Harald writes: > Am 09.07.2013 02:46, schrieb lee: >>> well, here you have to make a choice as often in life >>> >>> * learn to deal with "the networking part is extremely difficult" >>> * take money in your hand and avoid this part >> >> None of these would solve the problem because I ca

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Kevin Fenzi writes: > On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 18:09:13 +0200 > lee wrote: > >> So it seems that most ppl use yum to upgrade and that it mostly works. > > The sample size of people in this thread isn't really enough to > extrapolate to 'most people', IMHO. It goes only the ppl in this thread. >> I

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Joe Zeff writes: > On 07/08/2013 08:56 AM, lee wrote: >> Now consider the possible consequences of running a presumably pretty >> harmless "yum update": You can be left stranded with a non-working >> system and you can lose your data. What kind of reliability is that? > > For well over 99% of t

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Joe Zeff writes: > On 07/08/2013 09:02 AM, lee wrote: >> When you do that, how do you make sure that you don't run into a >> situation in which your system becomes unusable? You might end up with >> crucial software not running or not working anymore because other >> software already has been up

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Joe Zeff writes: > On 07/08/2013 01:10 PM, lee wrote: >> Your conclusion would have to be that Fedora can only reasonably be used >> in a professional environment like you have at your disposal and that it >> is totally unsuited for what they say that their user base is. > > No, that's *your* con

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Joe Zeff writes: > It might be a good idea for everybody who's already moved to F19 to > say so, including what method, what results and how many machines. > That way we can get a (slightly) better idea of how well different > ways work. That might be interesting to see. > And, before anybody a

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

"D. Hugh Redelmeier" writes: > | From: lee > > | Reindl Harald writes: > | > | > Am 07.07.2013 17:53, schrieb lee: > | >> If Fedora cannot be updated without major problems, it's > | >> not useable. > > Until you do it, you cannot know if you will have major problems. That's true, and I'm hop

Re: Touchpad is not working anymore

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Diego Vargas wrote: > Hi Dale, > > I think is being recognized. > This is the ouput of $(lsusb) but it does not show too much information: > Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub > Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Int

lightspark

flash-plugin won't work in fedora 19, not even with setsebool unconfined_mozilla_plugin_transition 0. The video plays for about 15 seconds, without sound, then freezes. As a result, I installed lightspark: yum install lightspark. Firefox shows no such plugin. Upon investigation, I see that l

Re: Digital camera: "operation not supported by backend device"

Ed Greshko writes: Yeah, it must be a GNOME thing. I just connected my Canon PowerShot S95 and get the same problem under GNOME (which is not my DM of choice) but it works just fine under KDE. It'a really not even funny any more. pgp0h8A6sxPic.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users m

Re: Digital camera: "operation not supported by backend device"

On 07/09/13 10:09, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > After upgrading to F19, accessing a digital camera from Gnome is completely > broken. > > Gnome detects the camera when I plug it in. I can browse its file directory > structure. The first indication that something is fubared is that none of the > pict

Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 21:53:22 -0400 Doug wrote: > On 07/08/2013 09:23 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: > > On 07/08/2013 09:09 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > >> On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 20:55:06 -0400 > >> Fred Smith wrote: > >> > >>> I don't understand,.. I had no trouble installing F19 on a system where > >>> I di

Re: Minor problem with Fedora 19

On 07/08/2013 08:37 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: On 07/08/2013 08:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 09.07.2013 01:58, schrieb Frank McCormick: I installed Fedora 19 recently but wasn't paying attention when setting up the username portion of the installation. As a result I had an abbreviated form

Re: Touchpad is not working anymore

Hi Dale, I think is being recognized. This is the ouput of $(lsusb) but it does not show too much information: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux

Digital camera: "operation not supported by backend device"

After upgrading to F19, accessing a digital camera from Gnome is completely broken. Gnome detects the camera when I plug it in. I can browse its file directory structure. The first indication that something is fubared is that none of the picture files have thumbnails, just some generic icon

Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

On 07/08/2013 09:23 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: > On 07/08/2013 09:09 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 20:55:06 -0400 >> Fred Smith wrote: >> >>> I don't understand,.. I had no trouble installing F19 on a system where >>> I did NOT want to wipe out all the partitions, just some of them..

Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

On 07/09/2013 11:09 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 20:55:06 -0400 Fred Smith wrote: I don't understand,.. I had no trouble installing F19 on a system where I did NOT want to wipe out all the partitions, just some of them... How did you get past the screen that only lets you pick a w

Re: freenx installation

On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 21:10:42 -0400 Sandeep Gupta wrote: > Hope this helps. Just switched from ubuntu and is fedora seems much more > stable, so thanks for that.. I found you also need to enable the freenx-server.service (which appears to enable the user nx authorized keys file when it starts and d

Re: ABI compliance checker on Fedora 19

maybe you have some dependencies that I don't have here. I tested with fedora 18 (Linux WSDEV0001 3.6.10-4.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Dec 11 18:01:27 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Li) and worked fine. This is my list of installed dependecies: sudo yum deplist abi-compliance-checker Loaded plugi

Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

On 07/08/2013 09:09 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 20:55:06 -0400 Fred Smith wrote: I don't understand,.. I had no trouble installing F19 on a system where I did NOT want to wipe out all the partitions, just some of them... How did you get past the screen that only lets you pick a w

freenx installation

Hi, I am sharing the recipe for getting freenx server working. There is too many irrelevant commands, all over the place, that confuse things. 1) su 2) yum install nx freenx-server 3) add "AllowUsers nx root " to /var/lib/nxserver/home/.ssh/sshd_config (not sure if this step is necessary. Restar

Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 20:55:06 -0400 Fred Smith wrote: > I don't understand,.. I had no trouble installing F19 on a system where > I did NOT want to wipe out all the partitions, just some of them... How did you get past the screen that only lets you pick a whole disk drive then, as the only possible

Re: Minor problem with Fedora 19

On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Frank McCormick wrote: I installed Fedora 19 recently but wasn't paying attention when setting up the username portion of the installation. As a result I had an abbreviated form of my full name as a user name. So I used the system utility to change is to my preferred usern

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 09:47:56AM -0400, Temlakos wrote: > On 07/08/2013 08:58 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >Alexander Volovics wrote: > > > >>Du calme, Francois. Ce que nous voyons ici c'est: > >>'Monsieur Hulot et les ordinateurs' ou 'Francois et les ordinateurs'. > >> > >>First there are 'instal

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Reindl Harald writes: > Am 09.07.2013 00:39, schrieb lee: >> Reindl Harald writes: Besides, I don't find it easy at all to set one up because the networking part is extremely difficult. >>> >>> using VMware Workstation it is trivial to >>> get a VM running in it's own NAT network >>>

Re: Minor problem with Fedora 19

On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:58:06PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > I installed Fedora 19 recently but wasn't paying attention when > setting up the username > portion of the installation. As a result I had an abbreviated form > of my full name as a user name. > > So I used the system utility to ch

Re: Minor problem with Fedora 19

On 07/08/2013 08:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 09.07.2013 01:58, schrieb Frank McCormick: I installed Fedora 19 recently but wasn't paying attention when setting up the username portion of the installation. As a result I had an abbreviated form of my full name as a user name. So I used the

Minor problem with Fedora 19

I installed Fedora 19 recently but wasn't paying attention when setting up the username portion of the installation. As a result I had an abbreviated form of my full name as a user name. So I used the system utility to change is to my preferred username. Problem is my home directory is still na

Re: Comics strip reader

On 7 July 2013 20:22, Jim wrote: > Fedora use to have a App. that could download the Comics Strips and read, > does anyone know the name and or still exist? Problems with the Dilbert daily strip rss feed? ;) I wrote my own bash script to parse the Dilbert strip page to then create a rss feed w

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Reindl Harald writes: > Am 08.07.2013 22:10, schrieb lee: >> Reindl Harald writes: >> >>> Am 08.07.2013 20:19, schrieb lee: >>> >>> it is easy to setup a virtual machine with any for your >>> wokrload critical software configured 1:1 like on the >>> working system and test things out >> >> A V

Re: Urgent network help needed

On 07/08/2013 02:35 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I guess I could ring my ISP (Eircom) and try not to mention Linux ... That shouldn't be an issue. After all, the machine in question runs XP, not Linux. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription opt

Re: 138a:0018 Validity Sensors will not work

On 07/08/2013 06:40 PM, Jerome Yanga wrote: On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:02 PM, "Germán A. Racca" mailto:german.ra...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 07/08/2013 05:57 PM, Jerome Yanga wrote: On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:40 PM, "Germán A. Racca" mailto:german.ra...@gmail.com>

Re: Urgent network help needed

Joe Zeff wrote: >> I'm not sure what tests I can run to diagnose the problem. >> Any suggestions very gratefully received. >> They may save a marriage ... Thanks for your response. > What browser/version is she using? She was using Internet Explorer, but she also has Firefox > Have you had her

Re: 138a:0018 Validity Sensors will not work

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:02 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: > On 07/08/2013 05:57 PM, Jerome Yanga wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:40 PM, "Germán A. Racca" >> mailto:german.ra...@gmail.com**>> wrote: >> >> On 07/08/2013 03:25 PM, Jerome Yanga wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Ju

Re: Urgent network help needed

Rick Stevens wrote: > On 07/08/2013 02:00 PM, Timothy Murphy issued this missive: >> I am away from home. >> My wife at home cannot access the internet with her laptop. >> I suspect the problem is in the home server I am responsible for. >> >> In brief, the internet can be accessed from the CentOS

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 07/08/2013 03:36 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> *large* >> *but* >> *serious* >> *ifÜ >> *and* you have rate-controls *and then* >> *pretty sure* >> *really serious* > > Reindl, > > Please understand that your use of the English language

Re: Urgent network help needed

On 07/08/2013 02:00 PM, Timothy Murphy issued this missive: I am away from home. My wife at home cannot access the internet with her laptop. I suspect the problem is in the home server I am responsible for. In brief, the internet can be accessed from the CentOS-6.4 server. Her laptop accesses a

Re: Urgent network help needed

On 07/08/2013 02:00 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I'm not sure what tests I can run to diagnose the problem. Any suggestions very gratefully received. They may save a marriage ... What browser/version is she using? Have you had her open up a terminal (Sorry, it's been too long since I last used W

Re: 138a:0018 Validity Sensors will not work

On 07/08/2013 05:57 PM, Jerome Yanga wrote: On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:40 PM, "Germán A. Racca" mailto:german.ra...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 07/08/2013 03:25 PM, Jerome Yanga wrote: On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:40 AM, poma mailto:pomidorabelis...@gmail.com>

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

On 07/08/2013 01:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Also, there is no need to send the same mail twice. I do not wish to argue with you further as this is not the first time you have been confronted about your behavior and I doubt it will be the last. You also like to get in "the last word", which

Urgent network help needed

I am away from home. My wife at home cannot access the internet with her laptop. I suspect the problem is in the home server I am responsible for. In brief, the internet can be accessed from the CentOS-6.4 server. Her laptop accesses a WiFi router which is connected to the server. I have to confes

Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

On 07/08/2013 03:36 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > *large* > *but* > *serious* > *ifÜ > *and* you have rate-controls *and then* > *pretty sure* > *really serious* Reindl, Please understand that your use of the English language comes across as violent and aggressive. Excessive accenting, excessive s

Re: 138a:0018 Validity Sensors will not work

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:40 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: > On 07/08/2013 03:25 PM, Jerome Yanga wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:40 AM, poma > > >> wrote: >> >> On 06.07.2013 11:31, Jerome Yanga wrote: >> > Thanks, Poma. >> > >>

Re: ABI compliance checker on Fedora 19

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Eduardo Bortolini < ebortolini.lis...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, I forgot to mention that I tried in this way too. I tried in three > ways, first from git. after using yum and after using the link mentioned. > No success in all > > I tried -test and it worked for

Re: Touchpad is not working anymore

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Diego Vargas wrote: > Hello All! > > I've been playing with fedora a little bit and I just love it! I've have > the gnome GDM and the Cinnamon Desktop. > My Toshiba U945-S4140 is running Fedora 19 and Windows 7. Didn't like the > pre-installed Windows 8 and I just

Re: 138a:0018 Validity Sensors will not work

On 07/08/2013 03:25 PM, Jerome Yanga wrote: On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:40 AM, poma mailto:pomidorabelis...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 06.07.2013 11:31, Jerome Yanga wrote: > Thanks, Poma. > > I have compiled and installed the code in the URL you have provided. > However, I a

Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

Am 08.07.2013 22:26, schrieb Robert Holtzman: >> Also, no time for installation is displayed, I'm stcked there waiting >> for an end! >> >> Many thanks to all those crapy packagers who think that common people >> are to stupid to manage their own computer! > > Wrong! > > Everyone else seems to

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

Am 08.07.2013 18:49, schrieb Michael Cronenworth: > On 07/08/2013 11:24 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> have fun > > Technologies such as open proxies and bot-nets enable an experienced > cracker to attack your system within a few seconds. there is a *large* difference between a botnet and the typical

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Am 08.07.2013 20:19, schrieb lee: >> i do not buy "you're simply lucky" after around 400 dist-upgrades >> with yum on workstations and production servers with all sort >> of services - i *never* rely on luck, i simply *test* and *prepare* >> upgrades after test them carefully on clones with note a

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Am 08.07.2013 22:10, schrieb lee: > Reindl Harald writes: > >> Am 08.07.2013 20:19, schrieb lee: i do not buy "you're simply lucky" after around 400 dist-upgrades with yum on workstations and production servers with all sort of services - i *never* rely on luck, i simply *test* a

Re: F19: ipv6disable=1 as boot-param ignored

Am 08.07.2013 18:16, schrieb Cristian Sava: > On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 16:15 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> syslog message at boot: >> ipv6: Loaded, but administratively disabled, reboot required to enable >> >> this does currently no longer work and every release >> the magic how to achive this is

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

Am 08.07.2013 17:13, schrieb Michael Cronenworth: > On 07/08/2013 10:01 AM, Tim wrote: >> And I'd certainly avoid putting anything exploitable, ever, on port >> 23456. Maybe that was just a made up example by the original poster, >> but consecutive numbers like that, and other common number sequ

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Am 08.07.2013 17:47, schrieb D. Hugh Redelmeier: > | > if you follow this guides *strictly* and willing to learn to deal > | > wtih "package-cleanup --leaves | --problems | --orphans and > | > to understand how your OS basically works you are fine > | > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fed

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 12:12:12PM +0200, François Patte wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > - Message original > Sujet: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora > Date : Mon, 08 Jul 2013 10:54:28 +0200 > De : François Patte > Organisation : Universi

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On 07/08/2013 01:10 PM, lee wrote: Your conclusion would have to be that Fedora can only reasonably be used in a professional environment like you have at your disposal and that it is totally unsuited for what they say that their user base is. No, that's *your* conclusion. I run Fedora on my p

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Reindl Harald writes: > Am 08.07.2013 20:19, schrieb lee: >>> i do not buy "you're simply lucky" after around 400 dist-upgrades >>> with yum on workstations and production servers with all sort >>> of services - i *never* rely on luck, i simply *test* and *prepare* >>> upgrades after test them ca

Re: [389-users] Multi master replication problem (389 DS - AD)

Hi, I got it. Everything is working fine now, so it was something in the old branch (1.3.0.4) Alberto Viana On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Noriko Hosoi wrote: > Alberto Viana wrote: > > Hi man, > > Where I can find the 1.3.1 source to download? I tried > http://directory.fedoraproject.org/

Re: [389-users] Multi master replication problem (389 DS - AD)

Alberto Viana wrote: Hi man, Where I can find the 1.3.1 source to download? I tried http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Source#Directory_Server_Source_Code, but it´s not available over there. You can get it here: A source tarball is available for download at http://port389.org/sources/38

Re: Touchpad is not working anymore

No, what I've updated on Windows is the chipset. Which (supposedly) only makes Windows to recognize parts of the hardware, like the LAN card, the WiFi card and so forth. Now, there is a special disable/enable touchpad hotkey. But it just doesn't work. I've tried that in my Fedora 19, in anaconda a

Re: How to get rid of the clock lock screen

On 7/8/2013 12:38 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 01:01:09 +0930 Tim wrote: I'm damn sick of some of the stupid things that have happened, in the way of alleged improvements, over the years. But at least my new Asus motherboard has an earth-shattering new improvement that actually

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On 08.07.2013, Joe Zeff wrote: > I'm still running F17, but I plan to upgrade > my laptop to 19 RSN, and once that's working properly, I'll do the same to > my desktop. I skipped 18 because of all the upgrade issues I read about > here and other Fedora help groups I infest. I have two machines

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Joe Zeff wrote: You make an excellent point. I'm still running F17, but I plan to upgrade my laptop to 19 RSN, and once that's working properly, I'll do the same to my desktop. I skipped 18 because of all the upgrade issues I read about here and other Fedora help group

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On 08.07.2013, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > The sample size of people in this thread isn't really enough to > extrapolate to 'most people', IMHO. And taking into account the simple fact that usually those who encounter(ed) problems are dominating the list, you have to deal with "publication bias" :-)

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On 07/08/2013 11:40 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: And taking into account the simple fact that usually those who encounter(ed) problems are dominating the list, you have to deal with "publication bias" :-) You make an excellent point. I'm still running F17, but I plan to upgrade my laptop to 19 RSN,

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On 07/08/2013 09:02 AM, lee wrote: When you do that, how do you make sure that you don't run into a situation in which your system becomes unusable? You might end up with crucial software not running or not working anymore because other software already has been updated or hasn't been updated ye

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On 07/08/2013 08:56 AM, lee wrote: Now consider the possible consequences of running a presumably pretty harmless "yum update": You can be left stranded with a non-working system and you can lose your data. What kind of reliability is that? For well over 99% of the people using Fedora this is

Re: 138a:0018 Validity Sensors will not work

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:40 AM, poma wrote: > On 06.07.2013 11:31, Jerome Yanga wrote: > > Thanks, Poma. > > > > I have compiled and installed the code in the URL you have provided. > > However, I am still seeing the same issue. > > Don't top-post, s'il vous plaît. > > That is a library part - '

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 18:09:13 +0200 lee wrote: > So it seems that most ppl use yum to upgrade and that it mostly works. The sample size of people in this thread isn't really enough to extrapolate to 'most people', IMHO. > If that is so, then why did they ever come up with fedup? Why don't > th

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

Alexander Volovics writes: > (It's a lot like reading math books/papers skipping the proofs > because you want to try them yourselve first). > Here you browse the guides and then experiment with anaconda. > > And François is no newcomer to the list or linux. That a non-newcomer cannot figure ou

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Mateusz Marzantowicz writes: > If you don't want to upgrade to F19 yet, try to regenerate grub boot > menu manually using grub2-mkconfig. You'll gain some time to track > package that is trying to make you "happy" and then remove or > reconfigure it. You mean messing up booting when running 'yum

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Reindl Harald writes: > Am 07.07.2013 19:21, schrieb lee: >> Considering that Fedora does not have a working (and tested and >> supported) upgrade method at all, such packaging guidelines seem very >> questionable. That means you're simply lucky if you manage to upgrade. >> That users are quick

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Frank Murphy writes: > No. 2.) might not work anymore >> sooner or later, if it works at all to begin with --- and it's all >> guesswork anyway. > > yum is not guesswork. Upgrading Fedora is guesswork, especially when using yum to upgrade. > All I have updated with yum since F16, the last fres

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Heinz Diehl writes: > On 07.07.2013, lee wrote: > >> That is not an option. I can't start from scratch every half year and >> waste a week or two to get the system back to how I need it. > > Have you considered to switch to some kind of "rolling distribution", > then? I for myself like very muc

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

"Garry T. Williams" writes: > On 7-7-13 19:21:33 lee wrote: >> So we have three options to upgrade: >> >> 1.) the recommended fedup which probably doesn't work >> 2.) the untested and unsupported way using yum which might work or >> not >> 3.) move away from Fedora and install a different distri

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/08/2013 04:02 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > > > Ah, SELinux again... Kinda' defeats the purpose these days, doesn't it? > > > > No it's doing exactly what it should be doing ... in a 'normal' usercase > there's no need for SSH to be on a por

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

On 07/08/2013 11:24 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > have fun Technologies such as open proxies and bot-nets enable an experienced cracker to attack your system within a few seconds. P.S. Please do not snip replies to exclude information that is relevant to the conversation. It makes you look like a tr

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com wrote: Sorry for top posting this. My bb won't allow bottom posting. My $0.02 on this topic. My nfs server is running fc5. Very outdated but I see no reason to upgrade it as there are 3 firewalls between it and the Net. It is doing w

Re: How to get rid of the clock lock screen

On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 01:01:09 +0930 Tim wrote: > I'm > damn sick of some of the stupid things that have happened, in the way of > alleged improvements, over the years. But at least my new Asus motherboard has an earth-shattering new improvement that actually makes sense: You can hit DEL or F2 to

Re: updating live CD: does it result in more up-to-date installations?

| From: Bruno Wolff III | On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 12:16:29 -0400, | "D. Hugh Redelmeier" wrote: | >If I install from this stick, will the installed system be already | >updated? | The way things currently work the anwser is yes. The file system is | essentially copied off the live image for

Re: Procedure for changing ethernet controllers

Hi, On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/29/2013 08:45 PM, Digimer wrote: >> >> You need to get the MAC address for the new card and replace the old >> card's MAC address value in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-. >> Specifically, edit the 'HWADDR="..."' line. > > > Rece

Re: updating live CD: does it result in more up-to-date installations?

On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 12:16:29 -0400, "D. Hugh Redelmeier" wrote: I have built a USB stick with a Live Fedora 19 on it. I gave it a large overlay to make room for updates. I booted the stick and did a yum update. (Boy was that slow. I think that the Kingston DT101 G2 stick, combined with

Re: How to get rid of the clock lock screen

On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:34:27AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 07/08/2013 09:47 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Yeah it seems like a good RFE would be for shift, alt, and ctl to also clear > > the screen shield. > Press the Enter key. Right, so, rewinding a second in the conversation

Re: F19: ipv6disable=1 as boot-param ignored

On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 16:15 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 08.07.2013 15:56, schrieb Cristian Sava: > > On Sun, 2013-07-07 at 18:18 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> "ipv6disable=1" in F19 is ignored > >> > >> i get tired every few months research how IPv6 to disable > >> because it permanently

updating live CD: does it result in more up-to-date installations?

I have built a USB stick with a Live Fedora 19 on it. I gave it a large overlay to make room for updates. I booted the stick and did a yum update. (Boy was that slow. I think that the Kingston DT101 G2 stick, combined with the USB 2.0 interface, was the cause.) If I install from this stick,

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 08/07/2013 18:03, davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com a écrit : > Sorry for top posting this. My bb won't allow bottom posting. > > My $0.02 on this topic. > > My nfs server is running fc5. Very outdated but I see no reason to > upgrade it as

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

Sorry for top posting this. My bb won't allow bottom posting. My $0.02 on this topic. My nfs server is running fc5. Very outdated but I see no reason to upgrade it as there are 3 firewalls between it and the Net. It is doing what I want it to do. Serve files. My other machines are all F17. Onl

Re: Resume problem

| From: Tanguy Eric | The problem was in f18 and now also in f19. The pc seems to go fine in | hibernate but when i try to resume it seems to try to resume and after few | seconds reboot normally. I tried to activate the pm_trace functionality with | |echo 1 > /sys/power/pm_trace| and use |dmesg

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

I've been using Fedora and before that Red Hat Linux for over 15 years. I've never trusted any update process. I've always done a re-installation. This time, I thought I'd give fedup a chance. I've done it on three systems. Each mostly worked. The problems were minor and could essentially b

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

Allegedly, on or about 08 July 2013, Michael Cronenworth sent: > Since there are only 65,535 ports to scan, anyone at any time can > easily scan for an open port in seconds. Arguing about semantics of a > port number is more Security Through Obscurity(tm). I think there's some difference between p

Re: Touchpad is not working anymore

Allegedly, on or about 08 July 2013, Diego Vargas sent: > No, it's not the kernel. > I have three kernels: 3.6.5, 3.6.8. and 3.9.9 > With the two firsts, the mouse worked very well. > I've made an update on 3.6.8 to 3.9.9 and then, booted to Windows on > the reboot part, installed the chipset updat

Re: How to get rid of the clock lock screen

On 07/08/2013 09:47 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > Yeah it seems like a good RFE would be for shift, alt, and ctl to also clear > the screen shield. Press the Enter key. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: How to get rid of the clock lock screen

Allegedly, on or about 08 July 2013, Matthew Miller sent: > Yeah it seems like a good RFE would be for shift, alt, and ctl to also > clear the screen shield. They're certainly the keys that I hit, now, to unblank the screen. Since, by themselves, they're not supposed to be able to do anything. Ot

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

Allegedly, on or about 08 July 2013, François Patte sent: > But this requires to have two computers: while you install one, you > follow the instructions on the other. I've, long since, come to realise that it's nearly impossible to manage with just one computer. Your instructions are on-file/on-

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

On Monday 08 July 2013 13:06:12 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 12:57:00 +0100 > > Gary Stainburn wrote: > > But does that include the download time for the DVD? > > Nope, but my system stays up and is usable in a > normal state while I'm downloading the DVD prior > to an install from scrat

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

On 07/08/2013 10:01 AM, Tim wrote: > And I'd certainly avoid putting anything exploitable, ever, on port > 23456. Maybe that was just a made up example by the original poster, > but consecutive numbers like that, and other common number sequences, > are just the sort of thing that wannabes hackers

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

Allegedly, on or about 08 July 2013, Timothy Murphy sent: > Of course an estimate of the expected duration would be even more > helpful, or just a statement of how many packages have been processed, > out of how many in total. It's often been said that it's hard to estimate how long to completion

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