is pretty groovy!
(now that I finally got the sucker built)
the new stuff is listed at
http://www.washington.edu/pine/changes/4.10-to-4.20.html
Kolor support --> you can make different parts of message headers
different colours... like the "From" can be red while the "To" would be
blue... :o)
> > grr... having problems building pine 4.2 on rh6(.0)
>
> It's Pine 4.20. 4.2 came out rather some time ago.
Sor-ry...if i meant 4.2 like you are reading it i probably would have said
4.02... I am not a big naming convention guru. :o)
and yes, I realise that was released quite some time ago
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Nicole wrote:
> grr... having problems building pine 4.2 on rh6(.0)
It's Pine 4.20. 4.2 came out rather some time ago.
> i made the modification to pico/osdep/os-lnx.h
> (insert #include in between line 35 and 36)
Under redhat, are you doing "build slx" ? That always work
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Beverly Guillermo wrote:
> I'm running Slackware and Redhat right now. I've never heard
> of dreadrat? It sounds interesting though.. Slackware does
that would be red hat :) I like red hat, it's just more fun to be
an equal-opportunity-insulter :) I tend to use red hat b
>
> You can look into /usr/src/linux/include - maybe the files pine need are
> there, so you have to make a simlink from /usr/include to /usr/src/linux,
> just like that:
ahh THAT is the problem! /usr/src/linux/include did NOT exist meaning the
kernel-source-2.2.x.i386.rpm (x being the kernel ve
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, you wrote:
>Anyone install RH6.1 yet? I downloaded the iso image
>and installed it here at work (fresh install on new
>drive). VERY easy/fast install, except now the mouse
>has gone nuts (jumps and skips around randomly - not
>usable at all). It works fine if I boot to the
Michelle Leonard wrote:
> Anyone install RH6.1 yet? I downloaded the iso image
> and installed it here at work (fresh install on new
> drive). VERY easy/fast install, except now the mouse
> has gone nuts (jumps and skips around randomly - not
> usable at all). It works fine if I boot to the ol
Nicole wrote:
> > I have NO idea why it is having a cow... I *have* these files on my
> > system.
>
> okay here are all the files it complains about...
> /usr/include/bits/local_lim.h:27: linux/limits.h: No such file or
> directory
>
> [root@ghettoBOX pine4.20]# ls /usr/include/linux/limits.h
> l
> I have NO idea why it is having a cow... I *have* these files on my
> system.
okay here are all the files it complains about...
/usr/include/bits/local_lim.h:27: linux/limits.h: No such file or
directory
[root@ghettoBOX pine4.20]# ls /usr/include/linux/limits.h
ls: /usr/include/linux/limits.
> Excerpts from linuxchix: 14-Oct-99 [techtalk] pine 4.2 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > /usr/include/bits/local_lim.h:27: linux/limits.h: No such file or
> > directory
>
> This is strange. It's complaining that it can't find the file
> /usr/include/linux/limits.h, which is on my computer, so I'm assu
Excerpts from linuxchix: 14-Oct-99 [techtalk] pine 4.2 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> /usr/include/bits/local_lim.h:27: linux/limits.h: No such file or
> directory
This is strange. It's complaining that it can't find the file
/usr/include/linux/limits.h, which is on my computer, so I'm assuming
that it
Well color me red. I know that I saw a version for Win and one for Linux
at http://download.com.
However, in effort to track down the direct link, I can no longer find
either of them. I also went to neoplanet.net and I see now that it says
they are working on compatibility for Linux.
Yes, I
At 02:06 PM 10/14/99 -0700, you wrote:
>> I'm serious, either I've heard of it and don't remember it anymore, or I've
>> never heard it. *ducks* =)
>
>correct me if I'm wrong but... deadrat...redhat...it makes sense although
>I admit this is the first time I've heard it referred to in that way. :)
grr... having problems building pine 4.2 on rh6(.0)
i made the modification to pico/osdep/os-lnx.h
(insert #include in between line 35 and 36)
but it is still having a cow
i can ./build clean
but when i get to ./build lnp it just sucks it up...
the first error i hit is during the build of c-
At 07:03 PM 10/14/99 GMT, you wrote:
>
>for example, restrict a user's access to control panel so that they can't
>alter the network configuration, even restrict their access so they can't
>right click on Network Neighborhood and change the network configuration,
>all they have to do is access the
Hmm. It is well known how to exploit a buffer overflow for any unix
platform. It is also usually possible to determine remotely or locally
what OS a machine is running. Root can watch what any user does. So,
to have an interesting virus/worm:
1. Get on a system.
2. Get root. (Either use a n
At 02:31 PM 10/14/99 -0400, Brian Engle wrote:
>http://www.ciac.org/ciac/CIACVirusDatabase.html
>
>UNIX AT&T Attack virus
>UNIX Ebola
>
>
>and as someone already stated, bliss for the linux platform, not sure if
>it's distribution dependent or kernel dependent, or ev
At 11:52 AM 10/14/99 -0600, Clare Smith wrote:
>
Steve says: Whoops...Speaking of inadvertly doing this worng...Just sent an
empty message via a mistake I made in Eudora. Speaking of Windoz,
misdesign. OK, this is kind of sociological and hope I won't get snarled at
for it.
There haven't been th
Excerpts from linuxchix: 14-Oct-99 Re: [techtalk] Netscape and.. by Mike
and Mary A. Cox@spr
> I'm still very much a newbie, but I'm wondering if anyone has successfully
> installed the Neoplanet Browser version for Linux.
Where's the linux version? I can't seem to find it. (You do mean the
neo
At 06:08 PM 10/14/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>I have never heard of a unix system having a virus problem... EVER! I have
>>never known of a virus checker for unix. I don't believe these systems are
>>immune to viruses, however. I think that it's just a matter of the system
>>not being widely po
At 11:52 AM 10/14/99 -0600, Clare Smith wrote:
>
>Besides, a lot of viruses take advantage of bugs and/or holes left in the
>applications or the OS. And we all know how many of those are in the
>Microsoft software!
>
>that must be why they call it windows :D (I couldn't resist!)
>
>thanks much
>c
> I'm serious, either I've heard of it and don't remember it anymore, or I've
> never heard it. *ducks* =)
correct me if I'm wrong but... deadrat...redhat...it makes sense although
I admit this is the first time I've heard it referred to in that way. :)
-Amanda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cathy James
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 6:37 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [techtalk] Updated Enlightenment
>
>
>
> >I still however *hate* GTK-Perl. I use the word *hate*
> >lik
At 09:30 AM 10/14/99 -0400, Jenn wrote:
>It works great. I have had it installed for about a week now. Alot of
>changes and ease of use. I like being able to update the menus on the fly.
>It isnt as much of a hog as enlightenment use to be, but you definitly
>need some memory. I still however *ha
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Clare Smith wrote:
> One of my unix students ask me if unix/linux had the same plethora of
> viruses that Windows/NT has. While I couldn't sight any statistics, I said I
> hadn't heard of any successful unix/linux viruses. I did some research this
> morning and still can't co
Disgusting they are especially when they fail to work for the Operating
system they are meant to work with! (Like mine I can't even get the
resources changed because Windows won't let me set it).
Norma
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EM
Anyone install RH6.1 yet? I downloaded the iso image
and installed it here at work (fresh install on new
drive). VERY easy/fast install, except now the mouse
has gone nuts (jumps and skips around randomly - not
usable at all). It works fine if I boot to the older
install. Tried 2 mice, MS Inte
Your modem should be on the IRQ for the serial port its on, shouldn't
it? That would be IRQ 4 (COM1) or IRQ 3 (COM2).
I would, however, like to add a note of caution on using Windows IRQ
tables to set up hardware for Linux.
Windows does naughty things and is more lax and permissive. In my
person
for example, restrict a user's access to control panel so that they can't
alter the network configuration, even restrict their access so they can't
right click on Network Neighborhood and change the network configuration,
all they have to do is access the windows help file, look up network
config
I'm still very much a newbie, but I'm wondering if anyone has successfully
installed the Neoplanet Browser version for Linux. I installed it on
Windoze just to check it out and I think it's pretty good actually. It's
much smaller in size as compared to Netscape. (I've never really been a
fa
If you go to the Control Panel in windoze, you can do one of two things.
click on the device manager tab, select View devices by type, then click on
your modem, select properties, from the popup that appears, select the
Resources tab, it should have all I/O info and IRQ info for you there.
The
http://www.ciac.org/ciac/CIACVirusDatabase.html
UNIXAT&T Attack virus
UNIX Ebola
and as someone already stated, bliss for the linux platform, not sure if
it's distribution dependent or kernel dependent, or even if it exists, but I
have seen references to it, dou
> One of my unix students ask me if unix/linux had the same plethora of
viruses that
> Windows/NT has. While I couldn't sight any statistics, I said I hadn't
heard of any
> successful unix/linux viruses. I did some research this morning and still
can't come
> up with any hard data. Any ideas?
Vi
There was a virus "demo" created for linux called bliss or .bliss.
It would attach itselft to binaries and propagate much like win/dos
based viruses.
However the only damage it could do would be to files that it owned.
Unless it was part of a trojan and gained root perms it wouldn't be
a big thre
> It may be time to slap your forehead, roll your eyes skywards, and utter
an
> expletive. I think Dead Rat is rhyming slang for a certain popular distro.
Or
> were you joking about not having heard of it? Apologies if that's the case
:-)
>
> - Kev
I'm serious, either I've heard of it and don't r
Besides, a lot of viruses take advantage of bugs and/or holes left in the
applications or the OS. And we all know how many of those are in the
Microsoft software!
that must be why they call it windows :D (I couldn't resist!)
thanks much
c
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mai
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:27:41 -0600, "Clare Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>One of my unix students ask me if unix/linux had the same plethora of
>viruses that Windows/NT has. While I couldn't sight any statistics, I
>said I hadn't heard of any successful unix/linux viruses. I did some
>research
Hi
there Clare.
I'm
not sure .. but this would prolly classify as my personal thought why not ;P
Linux/Unix as such don't have "Viruses" in the windows
sence .. maynely becuase of the privalige system unix uses when it comes to
running applications .. and the way memory is used .. one
I have never heard of a unix system having a virus problem... EVER! I have
never known of a virus checker for unix. I don't believe these systems are
immune to viruses, however. I think that it's just a matter of the system
not being widely popular, and the fact that the hardware platforms in
When I telnet I often find that the backspace key isn't mapped.
So I type 'stty erase ^?' other variations can be 'stty erase ^backspace key'. This
can be put in your .login script.
Tamara
ps: if you are telneting from outside your school, why don't you use ssh instead of
telnet? Once I use
>I believe it [is|will be] released under Sun's source code license,
>which basically means "You can have the code but you can't do anything
>with it".
Hey, that's the best one-line summary of the SCSL I've ever seen!
:-)
>However, I can't even seem to locate a source code download of
It may be time to slap your forehead, roll your eyes skywards, and utter an
expletive. I think Dead Rat is rhyming slang for a certain popular distro. Or
were you joking about not having heard of it? Apologies if that's the case :-)
- Kev
Beverly Guillermo wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Vinnie
Excerpts from linuxchix: 13-Oct-99 Re: [techtalk] Glibc by Shannon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> You mean it's not? Bleah.
I believe it [is|will be] released under Sun's source code license,
which basically means "You can have the code but you can't do anything
with it". However, I can't even seem to lo
One of my unix
students ask me if unix/linux had the same plethora of viruses that Windows/NT
has. While I couldn't sight any statistics, I said I hadn't heard of any
successful unix/linux viruses. I did some research this morning and still can't
come up with any hard data. Any ideas?
Clar
> That's what windoze Help told me to do, but I don't have a 'Resources'
> tab there. Help said it sometimes isn't there, but it didn't offer any
> alternative course of action.
> Any other way I can find out?
>
> - Kev
Try going to:
START | SETTINGS| CONTROL PANEL | MODEMS
Goto the DIAGONISTI
Excerpts from linuxchix: 14-Oct-99 Re: [techtalk] Different Li.. by
Ingrid Schupbach@miranda
> Linux Journal's September issue had a nifty chart comparing the various
> Linux distributions which showed what each requires, costs, and and their
> various features.
More specifically, at:
http://207
Kelly Lynn Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:13:19 +0100, kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> >That's what windoze Help told me to do, but I don't have a
> >'Resources' tab there. Help said it sometimes isn't there, but it
> >didn't offer any alternative course of action. Any other way I can
Excerpts from linuxchix: 14-Oct-99 RE: [techtalk] Different Li.. by
Henti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> location of some files ( userspace, config, other arb things)
> syntax in commands ( there are small differences
> C libs used.
> startup system ( System V or something el
Excerpts from linuxchix: 13-Oct-99 Re: [techtalk] newbie quest.. by
Beverly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Did you hear that VA Linux, O'Reilly, and SGI are preparing to package
> Debian in the future to sell in Retail stores? I haven't been to clear
> about how the volunteers/maintainers feel about this m
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:13:19 +0100, kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>That's what windoze Help told me to do, but I don't have a
>'Resources' tab there. Help said it sometimes isn't there, but it
>didn't offer any alternative course of action. Any other way I can
>find out?
If there's no "Resource
Naomi Hospodarsky wrote:
> There is an older MS hardware information utility called MSD that you can
> run in DOS mode to find the answer to your question about IRQs. I *think*
> you can find it under the "other" directory on WIN95 cd-rom. I have it
> here, and can email it to you if you'd like
There is an older MS hardware information utility called MSD that you can
run in DOS mode to find the answer to your question about IRQs. I *think*
you can find it under the "other" directory on WIN95 cd-rom. I have it
here, and can email it to you if you'd like.
Naomi
>That's what windo
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Janus wrote:
> All my experience (limited as it is) is with BSDI Unix and Red Hat. Having
> watched the ^H thread, I have become curious -- what, if any, are the most
> noticeable differences between the various flavours of Linux?
>
Linux Journal's September issue had a n
Try this: in the Device Manager, select "View by connection", expand the +
choices to show whichever COM your modem is on, and see if it has a
resources tab. If so, it will show you the IRQ.
- Original Message -
From: kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October
Kelly Lynn Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:38:33 +0100, kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> >I've tried looking all over the place in Windows hoping that the
> >modem's configuration would be listed somewhere. I looked where
> >Winblows Help said the IRQ level should be listed, but it wasn't
Beverly Guillermo wrote:
> There are known issues with version 4.51 and 4.61 in the Unix versions of
> Netscape. It's happened with some java code that just wants to hang the
> program instead of properly exiting correctly. I heard the latest
> version (4.7) of netscape has fixed it. Try that
killall might work
i.e killall netscape
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Jane Susi wrote:
>
> >
> > > Just This Girl wrote:
> > >
> > > > Did you try 'kill pid' or 'kill -9 pid'? 'kill -9' should bring down
> > > > anything.
>
> I'm sorry, if I bother you with a really silly question, but...what shall
>I still however *hate* GTK-Perl. I use the word *hate*
>like I would in a sentence to describe Hitler.
Could you be more specific in telling us what's
wrong with it?
--Cathy James
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
It works great. I have had it installed for about a week now. Alot of
changes and ease of use. I like being able to update the menus on the fly.
It isnt as much of a hog as enlightenment use to be, but you definitly
need some memory. I still however *hate* GTK-Perl. I use the word *hate*
like I w
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:38:33 +0100, kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>I've tried looking all over the place in Windows hoping that the
>modem's configuration would be listed somewhere. I looked where
>Winblows Help said the IRQ level should be listed, but it wasn't
>there (Help gave some obscure rea
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 04:34:13 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>If a process is in the middle of a system call (such as I/O, disk
>reading, whatever), it can't be killed while doing the system call.
This is technically not entirely correct. You can't kill a process
while it's waiting on a fast res
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:13:07 -0700, "Tamara Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
>I've also occassionally had k -9 pid# not kill the process, I think I
>looked around and made sure I killed the parent process first, then
>tried it again. Not an expert on this. But since the process
>numbers are
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:45:01 +0300, Jane Susi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>I'm sorry, if I bother you with a really silly question, but...what
>shall I do, if this "kill -9" just does'nt work? Not very long time
>ago it just happened, so what to do for avoiding such situation??
If kill -9 doesn't
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:39:58 -0400, "Beverly Guillermo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>You have it your setup to enter X automatically, so you're running at
>runlevel 5, rather then runlevel 3. Runlevel 3 is the usual
>initialization of Linux that brings you to the console login. Check
>your /etc/i
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Laurel Fan wrote:
> 2) Debian is a group of volunteers, not a company, so it will always be
> serious about free software, and they spend their time working on the
> distro instead of marketing. Each maintainer is also personally
> responsible for his/her packages.
Did yo
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Vinnie Surmonde wrote:
> wait a minute
>
> you're right..I apparently can't read
>
>
> actually, I read all the 3s as 5s...sometimes the automatic error
> correction in my brain is annoying :)
>
> Vinnie
Heh... I get it too, when I'm up all night working on something
and
It's just as to write './' in front of every command. I
think it helps me remember that having the current directory
in the path isn't always true for most unix/linux environments.
=)
Beverly
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The root shell DOES NOT include "./". Very deliberatel
There are known issues with version 4.51 and 4.61 in the Unix versions of
Netscape. It's happened with some java code that just wants to hang the
program instead of properly exiting correctly. I heard the latest
version (4.7) of netscape has fixed it. Try that or one of the other
available grap
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Vinnie Surmonde wrote:
> I know deadrat does it like that (or similarly enough that it's not worth
> thinking about :) ) ... what are you running? :)
>
> Vinnie
I'm running Slackware and Redhat right now. I've never heard
of dreadrat? It sounds interesting though.. Slack
> All my experience (limited as it is) is with BSDI Unix and
> Red Hat. Having watched the ^H thread, I have become curious -- what, if
> any, are the most noticeable differences between the various flavours of
> Linux?
here is a quick breakdown ..
location of some files ( userspace,
All my experience (limited as it is) is with BSDI Unix and Red Hat. Having
watched the ^H thread, I have become curious -- what, if any, are the most
noticeable differences between the various flavours of Linux?
There is sime self-interest involved. I am saving uip for an (off-line)
basic UNIX b
Norma Armstrong wrote:
> You're welcome. I hope this works out for you.
I tried the setserial -g command and it said IRQ 4. But I can't find out what
IRQ my modem is actually on! I don't want to mess about with IRQ levels unless
I know what I'm doing, I like my hardware smokeless :-)
Bearing in
Ingrid Schupbach wrote:
> Hello yet again!
>
> I think I've hit on another solution. The Netscape that currently comes
> with RH 6.0 is NOT the most recent available. Since upgrading, the
> trouble appears to have gone away.
Since upgrading to what?
I upgraded from 4.51 (which came with 6.0) t
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