charge _fair_ price. And Kent's book has fair price.
James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Of course, pointing someone to *free*
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nicer.
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Rui Pacheco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:And giving advice like buy Kent's book
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And, you don't have to flush the session to get it to
> happen either. Check out the main method on this class:
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> It prints out
to get it to
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It prints out "The id is 1."
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ugh all of the scenarios as I'm
sure they did. Has anyone filed a Jira issue with the Hibernate folks about
this to get some clarification?
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> each step.
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> This is not an "always the right answer" practice; it's just a
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> But yes, in any case, you're quite right: Hibernate doesn't do any
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I think that breaking the list is not good idea
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roving some of our
internal processes so we can have more releases and access to current trunk.
We released an update to the cognition-user dev list but will release something
to the larger dev community by next week.
Thanks all for your support - any ideas and involvement is appreciated.
Quoting K
keep up your great work ...
Hugo Palma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are you trying to say that all the
efforts i'm putting in the Tapestry
plugin for IntelliJ are for nothing ?
Now you're hurting my feelings ;o)
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I would like to say that Tapestry's learning curve is
less steep than JSF one.
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Make things complicated == improve consulting revenue stream
Pedro Viegas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Abstraction layers on top of
abstraction layers...
They have built so many of them that they have abstracted themselfs from the
reality... the majoraty of JSF users just want to build HTML pages!
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I'm still new
to Tapestry. How do you use the servlet in your page? What is needed
to set it up?
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on developers having Eclipse.
We use IDEA here.
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missed something during the
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put
export JAVA_OPTS="-Dorg.apache.tapestry.disable-caching=true"
in the setenv.sh
or somehow else force tomcat to use the option in the command line
Aleksej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was trying to put init-param tag in
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I believe this could be customized for T
http://awstats.sourceforge.net/
James Sherwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello,
Just wondering if I could get a feel from people what system they use to
produce statistics about their Tapestry based websites for their clients.
I have looked at Webtren
on, no matter where its submit
button was located in the form can be safely executed without concern for
whether all of the values have been pushed?
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Hibernate is really trying to embrace annotations but at
this time Annotations are not working quite correct, they feel buggy. I often
see messages in the Hibernate forum from people encountering annotation
misbehavior in places where hbm mapping works just fine.
The bo
I was really curious to hear the JSF war stories. As the documentation
(books/examples), training, and support of JSF is fantastic compared to
Tapestry.
Konstantin Ignatyev
03/22/2006 10:50 AM
Please respond to
"Tapestry users"
To
TapestryUsers
cc
Subject
promoting Tapestry
l efforts on fighting deficiencies and quirks of those technologies.
It is also very unproductive to retrain developers
constantly and resistance to learn new things for the sake of today is very
natural. We all should be focused on obtaining knowledge and skills ap
Yep, chicken and egg problem.
This is exactly why I like us to go and spread the word, it will improve skill
marketability too.
Cosmin Bucur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: a big problem with tapestry is that not
many employers are using it .
Many times I hear people arguing that it's not the right
:).
Dan Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think it's interesting that struts got
more votes than JSF. Knowing
the amount of code it takes to do anything in JSF I might tend to agree.
But still, struts?
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t Tapestry more frequently on occasions and this
way we all will benefit from wider Tapestry adoption.
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ry or hivemind at the Server Side Java Symposium in
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be cool if I could do both functional and peformance testing with the same
tool, whihc it appears Grinder does allow me to do. If you could please
post the example of how to generate random values per invoation as well as
using Regexp for resopnse analysis and testing I'd really appricate it.
T
it.
Thanks Again,
Asim
On 3/20/06, Adam Zimowski wrote:
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> Grinder is used for performance testing. He's not asking for that. He
> wants a tool similar to JUnit to test Tapestry pages.
>
> Try HttpUnit: http://httpunit.sourceforge.net/
>
> Adam
>
> On 3/20/06, Konstan
Grinder is most useful for functional testing becuse testing script skeleton
can be written automatically in seconds and then edited to incorporate any kind
of checks and alterations with power of Java and Jython combined.
It is good for performance testing too.
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?
Thx,
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Tapestry already influences them: there are Facelets
http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=39137
That would not help much IMO because of JSF's brurry focus, JSF promises to do
everything for everybody. Lovest common denominator is not that attractive.
EntityBeans tried and faded
ier,
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xt Big Thing that will displace MDA and RoR toys
into tiny niches. By the way Neal sees RoR as a kind
of DSL implementation, which is a bit different from
seemingly prevailing view of RoR as a library/wizard
type approach.
http://www.martinfowler.com/articles/languageWorkbench.html
Konstantin I
tc. Rails doesn't
choose good names for tables, doesn't handle foreign keys well, etc.
On the other hand, if you want something running fast, Rails' lack of
flexibility in this area also means lack of up-front configuration cost!
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Sure, and ask there about Hibernate.
Ron Piterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: damn, and I thought this is a tapestry
mailing list...
but I guess I must look for tapestry help at cayene mailing list... *g*
Ron
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Just do not use type attribute at all, Hibernate is smart
enough to infer necessary types from classes and use appropriate DB types.
Provided that actual class uses java.lang.Integer and java.util.Date as
property types
Your class should have getId/setId methods and I recommend using object type
like java.lang.Long or Integer because simple type like int cannot be null and
therefore Hiberante's saveOrUpdate 'magic' will not work .
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Could this latest problem be re
he missing class.
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Seems to miss cglib and hivemind jars
I have more jars than you need but ...it all works
ant-contrib.jarhsqldb.jar
antlr-2.7.5H3.jar htmlunit-1.7.jar
aopalliance.jarhttpunit-1.6.jar
asm-attrs.jar jaas.jar
asm.jar
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That is the well maintained MYTH of XSLT,
no XSL cannot transforme XML into anything (or it is insanely painful) that is
why it needs to be extended with real languages or replaced with XML-Query
http://kgionline.com/articles/xsl_50_faster.jsp
Ron Piterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: the xml can b
w much
good css and html could clean up my pages.
http://www.csszengarden.com/
We've gotten so used to using tables everywhere that css is seldom thought
of as a positioning technology but rather a way to have your fonts and
colors all in one place.
Konstantin Ignatyev
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ion in pageBeginRender, but why
isn't there any trace of an Exception anywhere?
Inge
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Or it might be placed behind Apache server and mod_proxy, mod_rewrite and
mod_rewrite_html could be used to do the trick.
I just did this for Struts application but id does not matter:
Please note that on sandbox LoadFile might look like this:
LoadFile /usr/lib/libxml2.so
Please see my old post on the topic:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.tapestry.user/29047
Christian Haselbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello,
what is the best way to monitor the start and end of a request?
I want to log some stuff regarding the request, using information
from the (new
There is interesting discussion that compares Velocity with FreeMarker
http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=38869
I am Velocity user but that discussion and materials have reviewed my interest
in FreeMarker
Mark Stang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We are using Velocity to gen
Nice site, if it was working properly :( I am sure it will be fixed over time,
as for now:
- mapping is slow and contains many blank areas ( try my 98034 zip);
- theare are much more homes for sale in the are than shown, I live there an
see signs daily
Keep up the good work
kranga <[EMAI
I could imagine that integration can be easily done
via... Ajax.
Seriously, just let those tags live on a jsp page on the same server and the
content of such page can be embedded on a Tapestry page with Ajax call like
this:
function searchThings( p1, p2 ) {
xmlre
Very strange meaning then. Usually getContainer() or
something like that means exactly that what drgorb
expected. I would say that getContainer() name is
misleading and should be changed.
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> getContainer() d
http://www.alfresco.org/
Perhaps?
spamsucks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, the day has come for me to get
started on this part of my
project I am seeking advice on this list because the deliverable
would be a tapestry component that performs searches against some sort
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Detlef Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi,
I am absolutely sure that someone has done this before:
I am about to optimize the performance of one of my websites. This is
mostly database
ibly, ASO-Scope.
btw.: We're about to move the project to javaforge, give it a cooler name
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Session per request is the simplest and most efficient
approach in many cases and it does not require Java 5. Please look at the
barebone implementation with CGLib alone:
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Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tapestry is free, Eclipse is free, Java is
free, why pay US$ 499,00 for
IntelliJ IDEA license ? Don't have a free or non-comercial version, 30dd for
evaluation is not an option. :(
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, with few exceptions, you almost never get called a &^&^&ing
ignorant newb here. I *hate* the Hibernate forums.
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take Kent's book and make all
work in any IDE.
Come on.
Serge.
Konstantin Ignatyev wrote:
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> It really helps quality of forums if people follow one
> simple rule:
> do not post anything that you would not say in person.
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&
It has been beaten before, but I let me bring question of forum again.
This is an quite interesting feature in the Hibernate forum:
ranking answers and peole anwsering (based on number of useful answers they
gave).
If it was possible to search among useful answers only, that would by really
an almost hear the chest pounding. Give
> us a break please.
>
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I wonder if you would dare to say it to my face?
To all others:
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bnook. It really help
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What's wrong with something being eclipse oriented? I
Can someone comment on that: Is it Eclipce oriented?
Too bad if so.
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Our developers also recommend Kents book. What they really liked is it
sta
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,13987,00.html
And nuclear accidents do hapeen too
--- John Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> If you worked on nuke power station software, maybe
> (I hope) y
--- John Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Incorrect. A white box test, tests every permutation
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> reveals all possible outcomes.
How can we prove that we test all the execution
patches and that all the code in our t
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> we do
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> not
> > the reason for th
type
checks.
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> wrote:
> > Tests cannot prove that code is bug free. It is
> simple
> > as that.
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> > They definitely help, but not that much
>
> Wow,
nts side management,
statically typed environment where we do not need to
write and run gazillions of tests to check for
assignments. Compiler does its job!
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a lot
> of Javascript
> examples too, and that doesn't mean Javascript is
> maintainable or
> reliable. But I'll concede the point. Maybe someday
> I'll learn RoR ;).
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your business logic,
> everything. Cleanly. This
> > is not even comparable to the best of breed ways
> of doing this in any
> > Java application using any of the top frameworks,
> I assure you.
> Provide me a good real application example that use
> RoR and that&#x
Tests cannot prove that code is bug free. It is simple
as that.
They definitely help, but not that much
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>
> I *hate* scripting languages.
>
> (now, maybe Ruby's not a strict scripting
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> strong.. and I don't like that! It just pro
Well, it is old saying to "the road to hell is paved
with good intentions".
For the 'idea' of marketing there is the healthy
reality check:
Lets turn on TV and count how many advertisements
fall into category of "crap" and how many "do provide
information", same exercise might be repeated with
as marketing,
> and that sometimes
> gets discarded by us engineers.
>
> Just to remind people there's more to computing that
> programming ;).
>
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Just my 2c:
The topic of job security is a touchy subject. Firstly
lets push it to the extremes:
Did not luddites were primarily concerned about job
security? I bet they were.
However there are many interesting things are related
to this subject, lets consider a short term success
versus long
> I wonder if Tapestry should implement some kind of
> JSF integration
> layer. JSF is the "standard" after all. We just
> can't look the other way
> around and ignore it!
>
Tapestry can be used to create portlets, and JSF
supports them too.
I think this kind of integration is enough.
I think
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