I am so tired of JSF crowd flip-flop on the subject of 
tooling. One moment they preach JSF as great technology because it allows 
tools, but when asked to name one JSF tool that really works and allows 
creating application in it in the same way Delphi and VB, they immediately flop 
and say that you do not really need any 'tool' to be productive with JSF....
 
 
 As for IDE support for Tapestry: combination of DreamWeaver and IntelliJ-IDEA 
works very well for me  in this scenario:
 
   entire look and feel (draft of  course) for an application can be done in DW 
without writing single  line of code;
  
   then the application mockup can be  demoed to customer and modified 
immediately if necessary;
 
 
 
 The nice thing about this stage is that DW mockup demonstrates behavior of the 
application as well as its look, and all that without writing single line of 
code;
 
 
 Instrumenting and coding the application in Tapestry is then trivial.
  

 
 

John Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: yes, I agree, and there has been many 
mentions here, of a need for tools to
crank out Tapestry apps'


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoff Hopson" 
To: "Tapestry users" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] OMG! A dynamic div component in JSF


The authro responds...

http://www.it-eye.nl/weblog/2006/04/26/jsf-productivity/



On 25/04/06, Geoff Longman  wrote:
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> in Tapestry:
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> In JSF:
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> http://www.it-eye.nl/weblog/2006/04/25/creating-a-jsf-div-component/
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> Yikes!
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> Geoff
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PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add fifteen million 
tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 square miles of tropical 
rainforest, create seventy-two miles of desert, eliminate between forty to one 
hundred species, erode seventy-one million tons of topsoil, add 2,700 tons of 
CFCs to the stratosphere, and increase their population by 263,000

Bowers, C.A.  The Culture of Denial:  Why the Environmental Movement Needs a 
Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public Schools.  New York:  State 
University of New York Press, 1997: (4) (5) (p.206)

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