Hibernate is really trying to embrace annotations but at this time Annotations are not working quite correct, they feel buggy. I often see messages in the Hibernate forum from people encountering annotation misbehavior in places where hbm mapping works just fine. The bottom line: at this time hbm mapping is more stable and robust.
Raul Raja Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This looks very interesting. The Trails project uses similar technologies but no plugin and is more Model oriented. My doubts are: Why using hbm.xml files instead of annotations It looks like the hibernate community is moving toward annotations? Is the generation of persistent objects based only in the db schema or can the schema be generated based on the Entity/POJOS? It looks like Tapestry is gonna move toward getting ride of the xml spec files. Does cognition compare on any way with Spindle when it comes to validate Tapestry pages and components? I have asked this same question in the Trails newsgroup, but it seems to me that if Cognition uses hivemind, things like the Persistence Framework or any of its part could be replace just extending configuration points. So that people won't be forced to use Hibernate, etc... Can Cognition work with specless pages and components? Thanks. It looks like a very promising project Raul Raja. Derick Fernando wrote: > Hello, > > I copied this from the nightly builds, I'll try to get this resolved > shortly. Thanks for the feedback. > > Robert Hannebauer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> the presentation looks really great. I wanted to try the modeler, but it >> seems there are some missing classes/packages. >> e.x. com.thelabllc.cfmodel.wizards.NewProjectCreationWizard. >> >> Robert >> >> >> >> Jesse Kuhnert wrote: >> >>> This sounds great! Good work guys :) I prefer using jdk 5 and hibernate >>> exclusively and might actually be able to use something like this. >>> >>> On 3/23/06, Derick Fernando wrote: >>> >>>> Steven Bell wrote: >>>> >>>>> This looks interesting at first glance (a little soon to give a real >>>> >>>> opinion >>>> >>>>> about it). >>>>> >>>>> A couple of questions that pop to mind right off the bat: >>>>> >>>>> Do I have to be using JDK 5.0? >>>>> Do I have to be using Hibernate? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, currently you have to use both JDK 5.0 and Hibernate. Hibernate >>>> filters are used extensively for searches. Currently the grid component >>>> can be mapped to any named query, the search component applies filters >>>> to this query to limit results. >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'm sure I'll come up with more questions if I get the time to really >>>> >>>> dive >>>> >>>>> into this, but these are a couple of showstoppers for me. >>>>> >>>>> On 3/23/06, Steve Motola wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> We are proud to announce the Alpha release of the Cognition >>>>>> Framework, >>>> >>>> an >>>> >>>>>> open >>>>>> source web application framework that uses the Tapestry / Hibernate / >>>>>> Spring >>>>>> application stack. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.thelabllc.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Accompanying it is an Eclipse Plug-in called the Cognition Modeler, a >>>> >>>> GUI >>>> >>>>>> tool >>>>>> for working with Tapestry and the Cognition Framework. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://dev.thelabllc.com/cognition/viewlets/cognition_intro.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> We've been listening closely to the mailing list and have come across >>>> >>>> many >>>> >>>>>> of >>>>>> the same problems in our own development. Here are some of the >>>>>> goals we >>>>>> achieve with the Cognition Framework: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Lower the bar of entry for Tapestry. >>>>>> 2. The ability to start quickly with Hibernate and Spring, and >>>>>> not be >>>>>> bogged >>>>>> down with configuration. >>>>>> 3. Have some common practices and standards in terms of application >>>>>> design and >>>>>> approach. >>>>>> 4. Provide GUI tools for Tapestry 4. We look forward to >>>>>> contributing >>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>>>> Spindle and integrating this within the Beta. >>>>>> 5. Provide a framework that is fully extensible. >>>>>> 6. Rapid Application Development for Tapestry and the rest of the OS >>>>>> application stack. >>>>>> >>>>>> So give it a download, try it out, give feedback and get >>>>>> involved. We >>>>>> apologize >>>>>> in advance about the lack of documentation, we are working >>>>>> aggressively >>>> >>>> on >>>> >>>>>> this, >>>>>> as we've been focusing on getting out the Alpha. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.thelabllc.com/Products.page >>>>>> >>>>>> Right now we are at EclipseCon. Lots of big vendors have fancy, >>>>>> complicated, >>>>>> expensive tools for JSF. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Tapestry community needs more tools - ones that are simple, >>>>>> affordable, easy >>>>>> to use and allow us to solve problems quickly. We think Cognition >>>>>> Framework is >>>>>> on the right path and look forward to having it grow and serve the >>>>>> needs >>>>>> of the >>>>>> Tapestry community and beyond. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Derick Fernando, Lead Architect >>>>>> Steve Motola, President >>>>>> >>>>>> The Lab, LLC >>>>>> http://www.thelabllc.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Steven Bell >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ......................................... >>>> >>>> Derick Fernando >>>> Lead Architect >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> (323) 314-9593 >>>> http://www.thelabllc.com >>>> >>>> Content is for intended recipient only. >>>> Copyright 2001-2005, The Lab, LLC >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jesse Kuhnert >>> Tacos/Tapestry, team member/developer >>> >>> Open source based consulting work centered around >>> dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://opennotion.com >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> __________ NOD32 1.1275 (20051103) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
