Re: [SAtalk] Bayes NFS safe?

2004-01-15 Thread David B Funk
On 15 Jan 2004, Rocky Olsen wrote: > I too would greatly appreciate any information - as we have 9 boxes > doing Spam scanning. Anyone tried this? > > > On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 13:31, Mike Jackson wrote: > > If you have multiple SA filtering boxes, is it safe to NFS-mount a partition > > with a syst

Re: [SAtalk] The CAN-SPAM act....

2004-01-15 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Jonathan Nichols wrote: > Did the CAN-SPAM act really take away a citizen's right to sue spammers? > I'd like to write to this marketing company and have them provide me > with absolute proof that I signed up for *anything* at all. (they won't > be able to) I think the whole "

Re: [SAtalk] spamassassin on Gateway server (MX)

2004-01-16 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 02:20:16AM -0600, David B Funk wrote: > > If you SMTP reject the spam, it never hits your queue, so no problem > > with the garbage piling up and no bombarding poor innocent 'joe-job' > > victims.

Re: [SAtalk] Acronym Update

2004-01-16 Thread David B Funk
> --On Friday, January 16, 2004 12:13:21 -0600 Carl Chipman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For the new people on the list, I was wondering what the following > > acronyms mean: > > > > LART > Luser Attitiude Readjustment Tool > Reporting the offending user to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > UBE/UCE > U

RE: [SAtalk] Turning off Habeas?

2004-01-20 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Terry Shows wrote: > Maybe it is good for -16, but in every case I looked at that passed thought > with habeas set, none of them set the violator, and every single one was > flagrantly spam. [snip..] > > The way it is now, it is just another header that can be added by a spamm

Re: [SAtalk] List moderation and spam removal

2004-01-20 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Sean McCrohan wrote: [snip..] > The problem is that the moderation request the list sends to me gets > wrapped in MIME, and SA (as currently installed) doesn't do a very good > job of analyzing it, in part because there's a set of instructions stuck > on the front that are the

Re: [WL] Re: [SAtalk] More obfuscation

2004-01-21 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Charles Gregory wrote: > Right now, there would be no statistics, because the text obfu has just > started. But as a side note, we don't have the disk space to run Bayes for > all our users though I'm getting awfully tempted to talk the boss into > an extra disk or two. So

Re: [SAtalk] trusted_networks being ignored at times?

2004-01-21 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Justin Mason wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Will McCutcheon writes: > >I am running SpamAssassin 2.61 with Sendmail 8.12.8 using Procmail 3.22. [snip..] > >A's IP as being in an RBL of dynamic IP's, despite my setting in > >/etc/mail/spamassassi

Re: [SAtalk] Selectivly disabling DYNABLOCK

2004-01-22 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Peter McGarvey wrote: > Greetings all, > > I have a mailserver which handles all my incomming and outgoing mail. > > Outgoing mail (stuff I send) is passed to the server via ASMTP. > Incomming mail (stuff sent to me) comes in via SMTP. There is > absolutely no way my server w

Re: [SAtalk] help please....cant stop them at all.

2004-01-23 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Thomas Kinghorn wrote: > Below are the headers & I have attached the mail. > > These are getting worse. > > To top it off, SA learned it as HAM. > > If anyone knows of any rules that could work on these mails, It would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks All. > Regards > Tom

Re: [SAtalk] Using Mail::SpamAssassin to clean a message

2004-01-23 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I want to be able to take an email message that may contain MIME and HTML > and to strip it down to basically nothing but text. (I know that > SpamAssassin already does this in large part so that it can analyze the > message properly.) So I'm not actu

Re: FW: [SAtalk] How to stop this kind of stuff?

2004-01-23 Thread David B Funk
> |-Original Message- > |From: Evan Platt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > |Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 15:03 > |To: SpamAssassin > |Subject: Re: [SAtalk] How to stop this kind of stuff? Real easy, this is a predictable spamhaus, "Empire Towers" Go check the records on this outfit at http

RE: [SAtalk] Rules Du Jour v 1.07b

2004-01-27 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Smart,Dan wrote: > Humm > > This command works every time from command line, but not passed as a param > from SA_RESTART. > "postfix stop ; sleep 15 ; /etc/init.d/spamassassin restart ; postfix start" > > It runs the postfix stop and then quits. Any idea why? I can creat

Re: [SAtalk] too much spam...

2004-01-28 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Paul Diaguila wrote: > No Bayes db yet, but I would think the one rule would score it a 5 > > Paul > > Covington, Chris wrote: > > >Your Bayes must be hosed if what you think is spam gets BAYES_00. > > > >Chris [snip..] > >Greetings > > > >Using SA Ver. 2.63 with Mimedefan

Re: [SAtalk] 'spamassassin -d' not stripping SA reports from email

2004-01-29 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 10:41 PM 1/20/04 -0600, C. Bensend wrote: > >Is the problem that I'm _forwarding_ the tagged emails from one host > >to the other? I don't have the capability to bounce, I can only forward. > > A forwarded message is a brand new message. That bran

Re: [SAtalk] Synchronizing Whitelists Across Multiple Servers

2003-09-09 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Sam Kalet wrote: > I have a site where there are two external MXs and I have the same sitewide > whitelist on each MX. The whitelist is defined in a separate config file > (named local_whitelist.cf). I keep the authoritative copy of this file on an > internal system. After m

Re: [SAtalk] Site-wide spam traps

2003-09-09 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Matt Tencati wrote: > Hi, > > We are using SpamAssassin in a site-wide configuration and I've been investigating > the > concept of spamtraps. Basically those old email addresses that collect nothing but > spam. > I'm curious if most people setup a mailbox to handle this or

Re: [SAtalk] Getting slammed with virri and spam

2003-09-09 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Jim wrote: > On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 12:18:10AM -0400, Debbie D wrote: > > 3 times today I noticed the server running very high loads of 4-6 and as > > high as 10, normally I run 1% or lower usually closer to .3-.6%. Three days > > in a row I have gotten over load notices.. To

Re: [SAtalk] Install problem

2003-09-11 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Alastair Battrick wrote: > I'm having a problem installing SA 2.55 > > The server is running Redhat 7.2 (I think) has 256Mb RAM and plenty of spare > disk space. > > When I go to cpan, I can get and make Mail::SpamAssassin no problems, but > when I 'make test' I get this: [sn

Re[2]: [SAtalk] No BAYES_* ?

2003-09-12 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Abigail Marshall wrote: > > CW> Ok, I re-learned most of it :/ > CW> Does anyone have an idea why it can happen that > CW> this database loses its content? > > I don't know but I have the same problem. It seems to > happen when my bayes_toks file reaches about 5k. > > I run a

Re: [SAtalk] Trying to install DB_File from CPAN

2003-09-13 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, AWShirley wrote: > I'm trying to install DB_File from CPAN so I can use Bayes, but the install fails. > I get these error messages: > > version.c:30:16: db.h: No such file or directory > make: *** [version.o] Error 1 > /usr/bin/make -- NOT OK > Running make test > Can't

Re: [SAtalk] RCVD_IN_ORBS

2003-09-16 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Gary Carr wrote: > SA is flagging 100% of the incoming email with the RCVD_IN_ORBS score. Even > mail from our internal network. None of the ip addresses are listed in > > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=3.0 > tests=RCVD_IN_ORBS > version=2.55 > > Has the orbs.dorkslaye

Re: [SAtalk] Test rule in spamassassin blocks my domains

2003-09-17 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Kristoffersen wrote: > Hi, > > Though I don't use spamassassin (yet), I've encountered some problems with > others who use it. > > Mails that I send from my two domains: kristoffersen.us and > kristoffersen.no are automatically marked as spam by spamassassin. After > investiga

Re: [SAtalk] Ratware header vomit?

2003-09-17 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Chris Santerre wrote: > Check out the header from a spam we just got. Kind of funny in a sad way: > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is all I changed.) > > Received: from dazzlingstuarts.net ([218.5.5.35]) > by moglobal.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h8HK6Sin019272 > for <[E

Re: [SAtalk] Any ideas????

2003-09-18 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Jeff Funk wrote: > The header below is from an e-mail that seems to get through sa repeatedly on our > Communigate server. There's no evidence that it's being scanned by sa at all. Is > there something I'm missing here > > Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 >

Re: [SAtalk] local.cf not being used????

2003-09-19 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Michael W. Cocke wrote: > here's part of my local.cf file - > > rawtext MSCUST6a /latest version of security update/i > describe MSCUST6a another MS worm > score MSCUST6a 5 > > full MSCUST6 /latest version of security update/i > describe MSCUST6 msjunk > score MSCUST6 5 > > an

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Spam slipped through, why no Bayes?

2003-09-19 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Chris Barnes wrote: > piece of /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf: > # Local Mods > bayes_ignore_header X-PerlMx-Spam # make Bayes do it on its own > header LOCAL_PERLMX_TAG_100 /X-PerlMX=~ /\b Probability=100\%/ > score LOCAL_PERLMX_TAG_100 5 > header LOCAL_PERLMX

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-24 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Daniel Bird wrote: > A P2P DNSBL? interesting. I've also thought about this a little since [snip..] > DNSBL could learn from that seed other DNSBLS, and replicate the data, > and then (maybe?) do the RBL lookups locally. > > Obviously, the file (zone) transfers involved would

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes configuration questions

2003-09-24 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Abigail Marshall wrote: > Here's the issue: > > System: Running SA 2.54, FreeBSD Unix, Berkeley DB 1.85 > (Hash, version 2): [snip..] > -Abigail Abigail, Where the heck did you manage to find V1.85 of the Berkeley DB kit? It's ancient and buggy ( I was using it a decade ago w

Re: Re[2]: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-30 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Mike Carlson wrote: > I am trying to figure out a way to do something similar. > > I have it setup to use 5.5 as the minimum score. If it scores between 5.5 > and 10 it goes to the recipient as flagged spam, if it is between 10 and 15 > it would get flagged and forwarded to an

Re: [SAtalk] 2.60 bayes broken on RH9

2003-09-30 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > debug: bayes: DB_File module not installed, cannot use Bayes > > Sorry, a case of user-stupidity. Not being root I had to install in > ~/lib/ and add a path to @INC in sa-learn, but got the path wrong. > > I still say it's a bug in sa-learn to not qui

Re: [SAtalk] Default behavior of check

2003-09-30 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Steven Manross wrote: > Would anyone find it beneficial to have this added to SpamAssassin, or > is it just me? :) > > $status->check_internal_first($mail); > > Where check would be performed with "local_only" tests first... and > then if it is tagged using locals only, you

Re: [SAtalk] sendmail question

2003-09-30 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Patrick Morris wrote: Check out MIMEDefang, amavisd, spamass-milter, or one of the other packages that can tie SpamAssassin to Sendmail. Vivek Kumar wrote: >Hi there, > >I am using sendmail and wat ot install spamassassin. The way sendmail is >configured is all the incoming m

SMTP reject != bounce (was Re[2]: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam)

2003-10-01 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Bill wrote: > > > How do I set up Sendmail to reject email with a high score or > > forward email to a local mailbox if it is within a certain > > range of score? > > The way I would do it is with a procmail recipe. Configure spamassassin to > use the stars header system and th

Re: Re[2]: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-10-01 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Mike Carlson wrote: > How do I set up Sendmail to reject email with a high score or forward email > to a local mailbox if it is within a certain range of score? > > I am a sendmail n00b, and so far my google searches haven't gotten me too > far. OK, you need 3 pieces: 'spamd

Re: SMTP reject != bounce (was Re[2]: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score

2003-10-01 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Pat Masterson wrote: > Dave - what is the purpse of having required_hits at 6 and reject at 18? > what do you do with the mail that rates more than 6? -pat Because of the possibility of False-Positives, I don't want to risk rejecting stuff that users might want. (faculty get r

Re: [SAtalk] X-Header: SUBJ_ILLEGAL_CHARS

2003-10-01 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Thorsten Franzke wrote: > Hi, > > I am having the problem that certain messages from my message board get > bounced at gmx.de (large German freemailer) which is using spamassassin for > header filtering. > > If I look into the X-headers I do find the following: > > X-GMX-Antisp

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-10-03 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Michael Schaap wrote: > On 1-Oct-2003 01:11, David B Funk wrote: > > >Don't /dev/null the spam, reject it. Unlike the procmail/qmail/posfix-ites > >you have the tools that enable you to "Do the right thing"(tm). > >With SA+milter+sendmai

Re: [SAtalk] Scanning separately by size

2003-10-04 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Sean McCrohan wrote: > Presently, because of limited system resources, I've set a very conservative > max-scan-size for spamc - I don't want to burden the system with grinding > through those large files. However, this generally means that large messages > come straight through

Re: [SAtalk] bayes over NFS

2003-10-07 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, Adam Denenberg wrote: > anybody sharing bayes over NFS, with any issues? I thought i read > somewhere that somebody was sharing bayes over NFS with a netapp filer > with no probs. > > anybody want to put in their $.02 to bayes over NFS. > > I am running 2.6 FYI. Read the fo

Re: [SAtalk] incorectly identified trusted host

2003-10-07 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, Tim B wrote: > Problem in spamassassin 2.60 -- trusted relay > > There seems there might be a glitch in the detection of trusted relays > which is causing RBL checks to be bypassed. > > Is there a way to bypass the autodetection of trusted relays and use > only ones specified i

Re: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-07 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, O-Zone wrote: > Hi all, > here's my problem, AGAIN ! I've checked perms into /usr/share/spamassassin and > are all owned by spamfilter user. This is my startup command: > > /usr/bin/spamd -a -C /etc/mail/spamassassin/ -d -u spamfilter -m 10 It may still be a permissions proble

Re: [SAtalk] Automatic Unsubscribe

2003-10-14 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > Set up a pristine new email address, but DON'T GIVE IT OUT TO > ANYONE. > Everytime you get a spam with an unsubscribe link, follow it and > unsubscribe this new pristine address. Nevermind who the message was > sent to, I promise the unsub page won

Re: [SAtalk] reporting the spam 'hosts"

2003-10-14 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Chris Santerre wrote: > OK, you all know I got the nasty email. You all know that my 'evilrules' has > to do with spam hosts. The ones that host the images. Well this seems to be > the way to attack the spammers. > [snip..] > Since many spammers are resorting to image spam, I

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Swap Space

2003-10-20 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote: > Since I use sendmail, which unfortunately doesn't have a proper way to > limit local delivery concurancy, I'm now using a combination approach - I > use -m 15, and return EX_TEMPFAIL for more than 40 simultaneous local > delivery processes. When sendmai

Re: [SAtalk] Re: [OT] What is next step?

2003-10-24 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Martin Schröder wrote: > > harvest addresses off usenet. We also assume that they clean their list > > when address appears to be bad. Has anybody tested this? As an > > If only... > > I get spam at addresses generated from Message-IDs. :-( That kinda make sense, a Message-ID

Re: [SAtalk] Re: [OT] What is next step?

2003-10-24 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Bob Apthorpe wrote: > Any system that relies on Captcha (find the hidden word in the image) or > similar systems ties mail too closely to the web, causing trouble for > people on text-only systems (e.g. the blind.) And if the C/R system is > Just to show how crazy it's gettin

Re: [SAtalk] spamass-milter

2003-10-25 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Mark Merchant wrote: > not sure if this is a spamassassin or milter issue, but here goes. > > i've been running spammassassin 2.54 & spamass-milter for 6 months or > so. yesterday i decided to upgrade to 2.6 ( via cpan ). > > now, the spamass-milter daemon seems to stop runnin

Re: [SAtalk] MAPS RBL+ problem

2003-07-02 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How does SA (spamd) querry the RBL's? > Is looks like it uses the local systems resolve settings. > The other RBL's work, but MAPS checkes the connecting IP. > It also looks like i checks xx.in-addr.arpa and not > rbl-plus.mail-abuse.org. > > "dig @eur

Re: OT: [SAtalk] Only 1.3 score by spamassassin

2003-07-02 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Jim Ford wrote: > On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 10:31:30PM +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > > > no "extra". There is no difference in text/plain or HTML text advertising, so > > why should one try to to match in mixed text and markup? I think this has also > > been discussed here some we

Re: [SAtalk] Spammers using SpamAssassin to tailor their emails?

2003-07-05 Thread David B Funk
On Sat, 5 Jul 2003, Jack Gostl wrote: > > > > Over the past several weeks, I've noticed an increasing amount of > > > spam that is getting through SpamAssassin with scores in the 4.0-4.9 > > > range. This makes me wonder if perhaps some spammers have started to > > > taylor their spams as follows:

Re: [SAtalk] Any ideas on how to get SpamAssassin to query one ofthe osirusoft mirrors?

2003-07-08 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, SpamAssassin wrote: > Any ideas on how to get SpamAssassin to query one of the > osirusoft mirrors? (Osirusoft has been experiencing > DOS/DDOS on and off for a few weeks, but some of the other > (not *.osirusoft.com) authoritive DNS seem to be working fine.) > > The SA con

RE: [SAtalk] tricky spam

2003-07-10 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Chris Santerre wrote: > > > I had a rule note on this from before. Haven't got to it yet. Basicaly > because of the FP rate. I'm going to write a few quick rules that look for > letterzeroletter and letter1letter. You can see why the FP rate would be > high. But I would score

RE: [SAtalk] tricky spam

2003-07-11 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Chris Santerre wrote: > > Usually write it like, /(f|ph)ot0|(f|ph)0to/i > Minor perl technicality, use the 'non rembering' version of the grouping operator, (?: ... ). As you probably aren't going to interpolate the match in a backreference, don't waste the CPU and memory to '

Re: [SAtalk] sendmail and X-Envelope-From header

2003-07-11 Thread David B Funk
On 11 Jul 2003, Yorkshire Dave wrote: > On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 01:27, Simon Byrnand wrote: > > At 21:19 10/07/03 -0300, Raul Dias wrote: > > >Em Qui, 2003-07-10 às 20:03, Simon Byrnand escreveu: > > > > > > > >sendmail.cf [snip..] > > > > >HX-Envelope-From: $g > > > > >HX-Envelope-To: $u > > > > >

Re: [SAtalk] sendmail and X-Envelope-From header

2003-07-11 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Dan O'Brien wrote: > Yorkshire Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > sendmail.cf > > > > # > > # Format of headers # > > # > > > > blah > > blah > > > > HX-Envelope-From: $g > > HX-Envelope-To: $u > > Most Excellent!!! Works li

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Why wil "sa-learn" not learn?

2003-07-14 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote: > >I had several spams not too long ago in which all of them used the same > >Message-ID. SA refused to learn from any of them except the first one. > >What can be done to combat that? Of course, duplicate Message-ID's are > >a violation of RFC's, but sp

Re: [SAtalk] Is bayes working?

2003-07-14 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Luiz Lima wrote: > How can I tell if bayes is actually working on my setup? I have a > amavisd-new + sa setup and, although my bayes database gets updated and is > checked when I run SA on it own, I'm yet to see any bayes rules being > applied to e-mails I personally get (and

Re: [SAtalk] Is bayes working?

2003-07-15 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Luiz Lima wrote: > That should be enough to get me going, right? So, let me get back the my > original question: > > How can I tell if bayes is actually working on my setup? I have a > amavisd-new + sa setup and, although my bayes database gets updated and is > checked when I

RE: [SAtalk] specifying homedir for Razor2

2003-07-16 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Yackley, Matt wrote: > Adam, > > Try something like this in SA's local.cf > > razor_config /var/amavis/.razor/razor-agent.conf > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Adam Denenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 9:19 AM > > To: Spamassassi

[SAtalk] 2.60-cvs and Bayes problem

2003-07-16 Thread David B Funk
It seems like upgrading from 2.53 to 2.60-cvs has thrown off my Bayes scoring. Now most messages (even blatant 'ham') get a bayes rating of 90% or higher. I've rebuilt it with a "sa-learn --rebuild" I'm using "DB_File -- 1.77" for the database, so it shouldn't be the problem. I have a reasonable

[SAtalk] 2.60-cvs problem with dial-up RBLs?

2003-07-16 Thread David B Funk
After installing 2.60-cvs I've noticed a number of FPs resulting from SA misinterpreting dial-up RBL data. In particular, it does not seem to recognise the source IP address as the originator of the message and so considers all the dial-up RBL scores that it hits as a spam indication. For example

Re: [SAtalk] SMTP Policy List?

2003-07-17 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Kristian Koehntopp wrote: > > Is there a mailing list that deals with SMTP policy issues, or are there > other ressources in that direction (documents, FAQs and the like?). What do > you recommend. Try UseNet News groups: DNS issues: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains

Re: [SAtalk] 2.60-cvs problem with dial-up RBLs?

2003-07-17 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Tony Earnshaw wrote: > David B Funk wrote: > > > For example, in the attached message the source was an AOL > > dialup "AC826956.ipt.aol.com [172.130.105.86]" which hit > > 6 RBLs ;() (with 'dnsbl.njabl.org' being added TWICE

Re: [SAtalk] blacklist with ip address

2003-07-17 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Aldo Mari wrote: > Thanks...but I have understood the theory ..but how I can create a DNSBL ..please > give me some link or idea to howto and how I could permit to spamassassin to connect > to my own DNSBL.. > thanks > - Original Message - > From: Ernest W. Lesse

Re: [SAtalk] Whitelist ignored for auto-learn?

2003-07-23 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Joe Julian wrote: > I have a list of specific trusted addresses in my whitelist, but it > still won't autolearn from them. Why not? Their scores are quite > negative, way below -2, but it still won't autolearn from them. It looks > like it's ignoring the whitelist when checkin

Re: [SAtalk] rule ideas..

2003-07-25 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 03:07 PM 7/24/2003 -0700, Abigail Marshall wrote: > >I have one that I've been using for some time that activates > >if the body contains a LINK to a .BIZ domain: [snip..] > I'd also suggest using \S* instead of .* after all, leading a regex off > with

RE: [SAtalk] bayes question

2003-07-26 Thread David B Funk
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, ian douglas wrote: > > First, run spamassassin -tD > output. Is bayes even enabled? are there enough tokens? > > debug: Score set 0 chosen. > debug: running in taint mode? no > debug: using "/usr/share/spamassassin" for default rules dir > debug: using "/etc/mail/spamassassin

RE: [SAtalk] [RD] tiny comment 'gaps', --lint

2003-07-30 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Ian Douglas wrote: > > Also Spammassassin -d --lint is only going to say something if you get a > > syntax wrong. So your doing a great job if you don't get anything. That is > > what you want. > > But I purposely set one of my rules to "awbody" instead of "rawbody" and --lint

Re: [SAtalk] Whitelist not working?

2003-11-03 Thread David B Funk
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Ron Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > SA 2.60 > Postfix 2.0.16 [snip..] > So, I added whitelist entries to /etc/spamassassin/local.cf for all > the machines in my home lan, and restarted spamassassin. > def_whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED]haggis > def_whitelist_from_rc

Re: [SAtalk] What is tripping FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA?

2003-11-03 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Robert Kropiewnicki wrote: > Hello all, > > Other than injecting something into the headers to make it look like the MUA > was Mozilla, what else might trip this rule? We've had more than a few > occasions where we've crossed a threshold because of this rule. Hitting a > 2.7

Re: [SAtalk] How to balance spamd max children?

2003-11-04 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Steven W. Orr wrote: > My ISP went down, so when it came back up aqnd my secondary mx record > kicked it all back to me I got a lot of messages from sendmail saying > > Nov 4 06:58:26 saturn spamd[952]: hit max-children limit (5): waiting for > some to exit > > I bumped it up

Re: [SAtalk] [RD] excessive table tags

2003-11-04 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Charles Gregory wrote: > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Colin A. Bartlett wrote: > > I have a rule challenge for you all. > > How can we write a rule to catch messages like the one attached? > > body LOC_BRMASK > /( ?|.){1,5}( ?|.){1,5}( ?|.){1,5}/i > describe LOC_BRMASK Masking BR

[SAtalk] [RD] Re: Abused redirector URLs ?

2003-11-07 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Chr. von Stuckrad wrote: > > Hi [snip..] > The mail also contained a broken variant of the wrong/forgotten > Parameter of their Spam-Mailer: ' $RANDOM IZE ' > > So: > > body RANDOM_IZE / \$RANDOM IZE / > score RANDOM_IZE2 > describe RANDOM_IZE contains brok

Re: [SAtalk] problem with Razor and spamd

2003-11-07 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Peter Buonora wrote: > Ok, I am running on Solaris 8, latest version of Spamassassin, perl 5.8. > > For some reason when using the 'spamassassin' executable, razor works. > When I try to switch over to spamc/spamd everything works except razor. > There isnt even anything in the

Re: [SAtalk] Re: 'random' character sets

2003-11-07 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Justin Mason wrote: > BTW, SpamAssassin originally started with accumulating rules. But I took > it out, as it meant a long hammy mail had a much higher chance of FP'ing, > due to containing more text. > > I'd be worried that accumulating hits would reintroduce the same > prob

Re: [SAtalk] installation fails [perl]

2003-11-07 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Maarten J H van den Berg wrote: > > I eventually found the reason for this behaviour after I noticed that root > could start it okay, but the unpriv user spamd couldn't...: > > machine:~ # ls -la /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/Mail/SpamAssassin > drwx--2 root root

[SAtalk] Accumulator rules (Re: 'random' character sets)

2003-11-07 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Robert Menschel wrote: > Or better: what if we specified in the rule a maximum score to accumulate > to? Maybe something like: > > accumbody T_SAMPLE /(?:word1|word2|word3|word4|word5)/i,max=2.5 > describe T_SAMPLE Message has medical words frequently used in spam > score

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Accumulator rules (Re: 'random' character sets)

2003-11-07 Thread David B Funk
> DBF> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Robert Menschel wrote: > > >> Or better: what if we specified in the rule a maximum score to accumulate > >> to? Maybe something like: > >> > >> accumbody T_SAMPLE /(?:word1|word2|word3|word4|word5)/i,max=2.5 > >> describe T_SAMPLE Message has medical words frequentl

Re: [SAtalk] rule to whitelist Listserv (tm) list traffic

2003-11-10 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Chris Barnes wrote: > I am in need of a rule that will tell SpamAssassin to whitelist all > email traffic which comes from our local Listserv (tm - www.lsoft.com) > lists. > > The problem is that messages from the Listserv list have the original > author's email address in the

Re: [SAtalk] order of preferences in white / black listing

2003-11-11 Thread David B Funk
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Tristan Nixon wrote: > Hello all, > > I have a question regarding the way in which SA deals > with whitelisting & blacklisting. If I want to whitelist > all but a few select entries from a domain, how would I do it. > Should the following work? > > whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Trouble restarting spamd

2003-11-11 Thread David B Funk
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Debbie D wrote: > Thanks.. ut yes Ishold have stated that.. stop & start.. > > [root admin]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamd stop > Shutting down spamd: ok > [root admin]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamd start > Starting spamd: spamdCould not create INET socket: Address already in use > IO::Soc

Re: [SAtalk] [MailServer Notification]To recipient: Message matched eManager setting and action was taken.

2003-11-11 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > eManager Notification * > > The following mail was blocked since it contains sensitive content. Love the stupid -PC- double-talk here. Gee, what was the content sensitive to? (is it sensitve to light, heat, shock...)

Re: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-11 Thread David B Funk
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Terry Milnes wrote: > The bayes filtering works great, but the typical user is not going to > want to jump through what he would consider the huge obstacles to train > a corpus. Furthermore implementing bayes on a system that incorporates > thousands of users can be a daunting

RE: [SAtalk] SMTP gateway/filter

2003-11-12 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Larry Gilson wrote: > The preferred method is any way you prefer. ;) That is really an honest > answer. Everyone has their own preferred method and a lot of times it > depends on your specific situation. Some people will pipe to a filter shell > script, Procmail, maildrop,

Re: [SAtalk] Attachments

2003-11-12 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 01:38 PM 11/12/2003, Scott Antonivich wrote: > >but can attachments be tagged as spam per user? If > >so, what do I need to place in this users config file? > > You'd have to create a custom rule to look for mime boundaries.. > > However, to do it per-

Re: [SAtalk] Razor does not work with spamd?

2003-11-13 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, MIKE YRABEDRA wrote: > > > I have been trying to get razor to work with spamd. > > I know it works with ./spamassassin --lint -D > > It also works with CGPSA (calls SA directly). > > But it does not want to work with spamd? > > Where are some places I can look , things I can t

Re: [SAtalk] Problem with spamd spinning on bayes_toks

2003-11-15 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Bob Amen wrote: > > We've been seeing a problem with spamd that happens at random times. > Occasionally, a spamd thread will spin, clocking up CPU time and never > finish. This causes other spamd processes to hang and eventually all > memory and swap is used up by multip

[SAtalk] URI database lookup feature (was Re: Sanity checking new uri rules?)

2003-11-15 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Carl R. Friend wrote: >For the assembled group -- is it possible to do a DB lookup, > either in an eval() or some other mechanism, in a "uri" rule? > If we could do a DB lookup on URIs (or, more properly, the > domain portion of URIs) I think that'd be a win (at, of course

Re: [SAtalk] dnsbl and fake helo functions

2003-11-15 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to optimize my MIMEDefang milter and reject the whole message even > before it is received and scanned with SpamAssassin. My question is: > Is there a function in Mail::Spamassassin perl module which I can use to > determine if sp

Re: [SAtalk] Razor does not work with spamd?

2003-11-15 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, MIKE YRABEDRA wrote: > on 11/13/03 6:07 PM, Chip Paswater at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Have you gotten razor working by itself? > > Yes, it works fine. I have just never been able to use it with spamd?? OK, next test spamassassin+razor. When logged in as your 'spamd' us

Re: [SAtalk] Run spamd as root ?

2003-11-15 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, MIKE YRABEDRA wrote: > > I have found that spamd will not use razor on my system because of > permissions. Is it safe to run spamd as root? Mike, spamd will not run as root, it is a security risk. If you start it as root and you do not tell it who you want to run as (IE leave

Re: [SAtalk] SA 2.60 - idle spamd childs

2003-11-15 Thread David B Funk
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Matthias Fuhrmann wrote: > > Hello, > > on my system i get many idling spamd childs, which wont die by itself. > this happens from time to time, if machines load gets higher by other > processes. eg. mimedefang kills its idling childs after a while; is this a > possible future

[SAtalk] Re: URI database lookup feature

2003-11-16 Thread David B Funk
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Carl R. Friend wrote: >On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, David B Funk wrote: > > > > I've been thinking about that exact topic. The Bayes engine > > already parses and tokenizes hostnames from URIs (the UD: tokens). > > If there were a hash DB made wi

Re: [SAtalk] Validate Sender Users

2003-11-17 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Eduardo Alfonso wrote: > Hi > > I've been trying to configure SpamAssasin to check for the existence of the user on > the local machine that is > trying to send the message and I couldn't find how to do this. > > Is it possible ?? > > Thanx > > I'm using sendmail MTA in a Re

Re: [SAtalk] whitelist_from_rcvd

2003-11-17 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Martin McWhorter wrote: I am having a problem with whitelist_from_rcvd not working. I have Spamassassin running on a redhat 9 box with sendmail 8.12.8 as our companies gateway MTA. I have MIMEdefang running as well, but with the Spamassassin portion of the defang.conf comment

[SAtalk] Re: URI database lookup feature (was Sanity checking new uri rules?)

2003-11-17 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Justin Mason wrote: > BTW, given that a URI DB cannot use regular expressions, or patterns, > would this really be useful? > > Basically with a DB you only gain efficiency when looking up exact > strings. So for this to be useful against URIs, you'd have to pick out > *just*

Re: Re[2]: [SAtalk] Sanity checking new uri rules?

2003-11-18 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, William Stearns wrote: > > anchoring with \b = fast > > OK, cool. As I'm doing full domains, I'll change: > uri WLS_URI_1 /0-go.org/i > to > uri WLS_URI_1 /\b0-go.org\b/i > in the next version. Also escape that '.' so that it's taken as a litt

RE: Re[2]: [SAtalk] Sanity checking new uri rules?

2003-11-18 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Chris Santerre wrote: > > > uri WLS_URI_1 /^http:.*\b0-go.org\b/i > > Regex confusion on my part! '\b' is bounding, but I thought that meant bound > by space??? wouldn't this above regex _NOT_ hit : > > http://stuff.0-go.org/stuff > > Isn't it looking for: > http://stuff.

Re: [SAtalk] SA LIST PROBLEM? Quoted Printable problem?

2003-11-18 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Charles Gregory wrote: > > Hello, > > Lately on several e-mails from the list, I've been seeing an error message > in my Pine mail program that says: > [Error: Formatting error: Non-hexadecimal character in QP encoding] > > More importantly, the message is *truncated* in the

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