At 02:00 AM 1/28/2004, Simon Byrnand wrote:
Has anyone else noticed frequent timeouts with Razor2 ?
I disabled it Friday due to timeouts.
In my experience, razor often has short-term problems that last a couple
days then clear up.
Right now they're probably experiencing high load, just like ever
I think that given that there is a virus storm going on right now, that this
sort of behaviour could be expected.
Alan
>
> I actually just noticed this now. The razor2 servers aren't
> responding
> properly it would seem. Haven't since yesterday.
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At 04:33 29/01/2004, Matt Kettler wrote:
At 02:00 AM 1/28/2004, Simon Byrnand wrote:
Has anyone else noticed frequent timeouts with Razor2 ?
I disabled it Friday due to timeouts.
Ah... Yes I just disabled it myself last night after about half an hour of
debugging to make sure it wasn't a software
On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 02:00, Simon Byrnand wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed frequent timeouts with Razor2 ?
>
> I'm seeing timeouts nearly all the time from most of the Razor servers
> causing spamd to take 10 seconds instead of the usual 1 second or so...
> (I've also noticed more spam than usual
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> From: Simon Byrnand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 1:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [SAtalk] Razor s
Has anyone else noticed frequent timeouts with Razor2 ?
I'm seeing timeouts nearly all the time from most of the Razor servers
causing spamd to take 10 seconds instead of the usual 1 second or so...
(I've also noticed more spam than usual slipping through)
Anyone know whats up ? Couldn't see anyt
At 03:02 PM 1/18/04 +0100, Erik van der Meulen wrote:
I get:
debug: Razor Agents 1.20, protocol version 2.
razor 1.20 is a very old version of razor, and 1.x versions are no longer
supported by SA.
try getting razor 2.36 and applying the taint-safeness patch.
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Dear group - I have a working SA 2.62 configuration (Debian 3, but with a
non-deb manual installation of SA) and I cannot seem to get Razor to work.
If I run the Wikki test:
spamassassin -P -t -D < /tmp/spam
I get things like this:
debug: Razor2 is not available
I do have the razor.deb ins
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 08:17:57AM -0600, SAtalk Mail User wrote:
> I have a question i regards to razor2 and spamassassin - this is what I see
> from my maillog, I have spamd in debug mode, I am wondering if you can tell me
> if razor is being used. If so how can I tell that razor2 is being utili
Hello all -
I have a question i regards to razor2 and spamassassin - this is what I see
from my maillog, I have spamd in debug mode, I am wondering if you can tell me
if razor is being used. If so how can I tell that razor2 is being utilized.
Jan 8 08:11:08 elmo spamd[4644]: debug: Using resul
Are you running spamd as yourself, or as another user (nobody, or root, or
whatever)? It sounds quite likely that the user your running spamd as doesn't
have a ~/.razor/ set up, but your own user does.
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Mark Norton wrote:
> Any reason why I would get razor results against spam
Any reason why I would get razor results against spamassassin
and none when using the spamc client?
I've been running the spamc client and have not seen
any hits against any of the spam. After replacing spamc with spamassassin the
second message through reported this:
Content analys
Hi!
We are using SA 2.6nb1 and Razor 2.22.
I registered my username as stated and I entered the line "use_razor2" in my
local.cf .
Do the 2 points below mean it's working?
Thanks
Frank
In my /root/.razor directory
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel25 Nov 27 06:55 identity@ ->
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-rw
Check out the documentation at the razor site. As a result of reading these docs I'm running a small cron script daily:
razor discover:
#! /bin/bash
# refresh /root/.razor/
razor-admin -discover
Viola - no razor problems.
Steve Swaney
s[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:58:53 -05
My .razor/servers.discovery.lst has 66.151.150.11.
I know Razor is running with SA, but how can I find out if Razor is using their "distributed, collaborative, spam detection and filtering network"? I should see something in the debugged log file about connections to servers, correct?
t
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Ron Weales wrote:
> I know Razor is running with SA, but how can I find out if Razor is using
> their "distributed, collaborative, spam detection and filtering network"?
> I should see something in the debugged log file about connections to
> servers, correct?
spamassassin -
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Ron Weales wrote:
> However, I never saw anything about "read server list", "closest server
> is" or "connecting to"...
> So it appears that Razor isn't connecting to their servers.
It just so happened --- I'm working right now on why it seems razor stopped
working here. It
SA 2.55 on RH 6.2 running as spamd with Qmail.
Just installed Razor 2.36.
SA faq says to confirm that Razor is running by using debug mode and observing that razor is available and what version, etc,.
I see:
"Razor2 is available"
"Using results from Razor v2.36"
However, I n
At 03:48 PM 11/20/03 +1100, Zlatko Hristov wrote:
Does Razor and DCC do a direct lookup to same database on the internet
every time SA scans a message? Or its storing that database localy somehow.
I know that razor checks it's server each time a message is scanned. Razor
never stores a database l
Razor does a lookup to the Razor server every time. Nothing is cached.
I assume the same for DCC
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 03:48:51PM +1100, Zlatko Hristov wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Does Razor and DCC do a direct lookup to same database on the internet
> every time SA scans a message? Or its storing
This problem has caused me to stop using Spamassassin to do individual
reporting, and instead strip the emails and use razor itself to send spam
in batches. I've found this to decrease the errors substantially.
Additionally, now that I send in batches every 5 minutes, if razor refuses
the report,
Title: SignatureENCH Stationery
Hello,
Does Razor and DCC
do a direct lookup to same database on the internet every time SA scans a
message? Or its storing that database localy somehow.
Thank
you.
Regards,
Zlatko.
Is there a way to determine if there is a problem with
the servers razor uses (such as an announce list or network status). Do
people find the razor (cloudmark) servers do not always accept spam
reports?
I've been getting
Nov 19 12:19:47.329814 report[2920]: [ 5] Connecting to
folly.cloudmark.c
on 11/15/03 5:59 AM, David B Funk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> When logged in as your 'spamd' user, if you do the test:
>
> spamassassin -D --lint
>
> do you see spamassassin using razor?
Yes
++
Mike Yrabedra (President)
323 Incorporated
Home of
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, MIKE YRABEDRA wrote:
> on 11/13/03 6:07 PM, Chip Paswater at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Have you gotten razor working by itself?
>
> Yes, it works fine. I have just never been able to use it with spamd??
OK, next test spamassassin+razor.
When logged in as your 'spamd' us
> Razor doesn't seem to be working. This is the output I get with
> spamassassin -D:
>
> Nov 14 08:56:05.758908 report[31327]: [ 8] Checking with Razor
Discovery Server 216.52.3.2
> Nov 14 08:56:05.758989 report[31327]: [ 6] No port specified, using
2703
> Nov 14 08:56:05.759036 report[31327]: [
> Nov 14 08:56:05.758908 report[31327]: [ 8] Checking with
> Razor Discovery Server 216.52.3.2 Nov 14 08:56:05.758989
> report[31327]: [ 6] No port specified, using 2703 Nov 14
> 08:56:05.759036 report[31327]: [ 5] Connecting to 216.52.3.2 ...
> debug: razor2 report timed out after 10 secs.
>
on 11/14/03 8:59 AM, Philip Mak at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Razor doesn't seem to be working. This is the output I get with
> spamassassin -D:
>
> Nov 14 08:56:05.758908 report[31327]: [ 8] Checking with Razor Discovery
> Server 216.52.3.2
> Nov 14 08:56:05.758989 report[31327]: [ 6] No port sp
Razor doesn't seem to be working. This is the output I get with
spamassassin -D:
Nov 14 08:56:05.758908 report[31327]: [ 8] Checking with Razor Discovery Server
216.52.3.2
Nov 14 08:56:05.758989 report[31327]: [ 6] No port specified, using 2703
Nov 14 08:56:05.759036 report[31327]: [ 5] Connectin
on 11/13/03 6:07 PM, Chip Paswater at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Have you gotten razor working by itself?
Yes, it works fine. I have just never been able to use it with spamd??
++
Mike Yrabedra (President)
323 Incorporated
Home of MacDock.com, Mac
Have you gotten razor working by itself?
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 05:20:44PM -0500, MIKE YRABEDRA wrote:
> on 11/13/03 4:49 PM, David B Funk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Other thing to try, run spamd with the '-D' flag to turn on
> > debugging output. (But don't run it that way for too long u
on 11/13/03 4:49 PM, David B Funk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Other thing to try, run spamd with the '-D' flag to turn on
> debugging output. (But don't run it that way for too long unless
> you have a -large- disk to hold the output ;).
I did this and it says nothing about razor???
-
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, MIKE YRABEDRA wrote:
>
>
> I have been trying to get razor to work with spamd.
>
> I know it works with ./spamassassin --lint -D
>
> It also works with CGPSA (calls SA directly).
>
> But it does not want to work with spamd?
>
> Where are some places I can look , things I can t
I have been trying to get razor to work with spamd.
I know it works with ./spamassassin --lint -D
It also works with CGPSA (calls SA directly).
But it does not want to work with spamd?
Where are some places I can look , things I can try, to narrow down the
problem?
+--
Hi All,
I had a strange thing last night. my spam assassin stop processing
messages. sendmail was still receiving. i stopped and restarted
MailScanner (which is what i use) once and it complained about address in
use. i then stopped it and saw that sendmail was still running and did a
killall o
Ken Bass wrote:
Several people recommended "formail -s spamassassin -r < mbox_full_of_spam".
Oops, sorry to have done the same (I didn't see this message when I
wrote my reply)...
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Ken Bass wrote:
Since the messages are received post spamassassin processing
they contain all the spamassassin stuff (marked-up-and put-in-an-attachment
version). My understanding was that sa-learn is smart enough to ignore all
its marked up stuff. I hope that it true even when it is given the '--
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Ken Bass writes:
>So I guess my original question turns into a request, can spamassassin be
>changed so that '-r' option accepts an mbox file and it iterates over the
>messages to submit them. Or could sa-learn be changed so that it becomes the
>top l
Several people recommended "formail -s spamassassin -r < mbox_full_of_spam".
Thanks. While this works I don't like that it does not provide status from
its invocation of sa-learn such as 'Learned from 10 message(s) 13 message(s)
examined)'. I ended up calling sa-learn --mbox first, then the above
f
Since the messages are received post spamassassin processing
they contain all the spamassassin stuff (marked-up-and put-in-an-attachment
version). My understanding was that sa-learn is smart enough to ignore all
its marked up stuff. I hope that it true even when it is given the '--mbox'
option. The
Ken Bass wrote:
My question is how to report a *mailbox* of spam to razor2. I just
added razor2 to my configuration and wanted to contribute.
...
I then call 'sa-learn --mbox --spam' on the input file
If I understand correctly, this means that at this point you have the
messages in their origin
My question is how to report a *mailbox* of spam to razor2. I just added
razor2 to my configuration and wanted to contribute.
I currently receive spam into my mail reader (Forte Agent) and they get
moved to a SPAM folder based on the header tags. I periodically visit that
SPAM folder and using
At 08:38 AM 11/7/03 -0500, you wrote:
I have noticed that RAzor2 is timing out and slowing down SA 2.6.
Has something changed in the past few months that may have caused this?
Maybe the razorzone has changed? I use razor2.cloudmark.com now.
I don't think the zone itself is likely to change anytime
I have noticed that RAzor2 is timing out and slowing down SA 2.6.
Has something changed in the past few months that may have caused this?
Maybe the razorzone has changed? I use razor2.cloudmark.com now.
I have googled this and cannot find any answers.
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Is anyone else seeing lots of timeouts for razor today? Seems to be timing
out a lot today. I tried changing the discovery servers, etc... but no
noticable difference.
Rob
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Well, I'm still seeing the bad file descriptor problem with Razor,
even after applying the patch per the readme file. I found two
instances of Razor, I patched them both.
What am I forgetting?
SA 2.60, FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE, sendmail 8.12.8
Thanks.
-jav
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Am Donnerstag, 2. Oktober 2003 hat Scott Rothgaber zum Thema
"Re: [SAtalk] Razor Patch" folgendes getippt:
> > Where is the 'patch' executable supposed to come from?
> Most likely in a directory that's not in your PATH. ;-)
> find /usr -name patch -print
Robert Krüger wrote:
Where is the 'patch' executable supposed to come from?
Most likely in a directory that's not in your PATH. ;-)
find /usr -name patch -print
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Robert Krüger wrote:
> I've tried to apply the razor2-patch like it's described in the
> Readme and FAQ, but it doesn't work.
>
> I tried to execute: patch -p0 < Razor2.patch
>
> but I only got "command not found". Where is the 'patch' executable
> supposed to come from? What do I have to install
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SAtalk] Razor Patch
Hi there,
I've tried to apply the razor2-patch like it's described in the Readme
and FAQ, but it doesn't work.
I tried to execute: patch -p0 < Razor2.patch
---
This
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 11:57:35PM +0200, Robert Kr?ger wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I've tried to apply the razor2-patch like it's described in the Readme
> and FAQ, but it doesn't work.
>
> I tried to execute: patch -p0 < Razor2.patch
>
> but I only got "command not found". Where is the 'patch' exe
Hi there,
I've tried to apply the razor2-patch like it's described in the Readme
and FAQ, but it doesn't work.
I tried to execute: patch -p0 < Razor2.patch
but I only got "command not found". Where is the 'patch' executable
supposed to come from? What do I have to install? SA runs on a RH7.3
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From: Patrick Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 3:48 PM
To: John Schneider
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate
loadable object for module Digest::SHA1
You might try "force install Digest::SHA1.&qu
You might try "force install Digest::SHA1." It looks like *parts* of it
are up to date, but not all of it.
John Schneider wrote:
Can I do that in CPAN or do I have to do it outside to correct the problem?
When I do a "install Digest::MD5" and "install Digest::SHA1" in CPAN
currently it tells
ystems Manager,
DAUM Commercial Real Estate Services
-Original Message-
From: Andreas Stollar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 4:00 PM
To: John Schneider
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate
loadable objec
; From: John Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 'Andreas Stollar' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate
> loadable object for modu
Information Systems Manager,
DAUM Commercial Real Estate Services
-Original Message-
From: Andreas Stollar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 2:51 PM
To: John Schneider
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate
l
To: John Schneider
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate
loadable object for module Digest::SHA1
Did you do a 'make install' ? Seems like its not finding the right perl
modules, this usually happens to me after a perl upgrade
ED]>
> To: 'Andreas Stollar' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate
> loadable object for module Digest::SHA1
>
> Yes. That happe
gt; To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate
> loadable object for module Digest::SHA1
>
> I tried to post the following to the razor-users listserv, but it seems to
> be down c
I tried to post this earlier today but it didn't make it. This is my second
attempt. I also tried to post the following to the razor-users listserv, but
it seems to be down currently. Because I need to resolve this and it is an
often-used component of SA, I am posting here:
I am encountering an er
I tried to post the following to the razor-users listserv, but it seems to
be down currently. Because I need to resolve this and it is an often-used
component of SA, I am posting here:
I am encountering an error trying to install razor-agents-2.36. I installed
the razor-agents-sdk-2.03 prior witho
I just wanted to further clarify that the following error is upon "make
install" after a successful "make" and "make test". Also, I wanted to point
out that I have also previously installed the Digest::SHA1 in CPAN without
incident, in addition to installing the razor-sdk.
Can't locate loadable ob
I tried to post this yesterday but it didn't make it. I apologize this is a
bit out of topic:
I am encountering an error trying to install razor-agents-2.36. I installed
the razor-agents-sdk-2.03 prior without incident. After a successful "perl
Makefile.pl", "make" and "make test" I get the follow
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:38:48 +0100 in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Brian Morrison"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Will try again with the latest Razor patch in the 2.60 release version
> of SA.
Razor now patched correctly with contents of 2.60 Razor2.patch file, SA
now returning Razor results again.
Phew! T
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:30:39 +0100, Brian Morrison wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:55:37 +0200 in
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Antoine Jacoutot
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> OK, here is my complete log; it does show lines about razor, but
>> there's nothing in my razor logs (/root/.razor/razor-agent.log):
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:55:37 +0200 in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Antoine Jacoutot
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, here is my complete log; it does show lines about razor, but
> there's nothing in my razor logs (/root/.razor/razor-agent.log):
>
I've noticed that my .razor/razor-agent.log was last writt
Selon Hannu Liljemark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Uh... so is spamd working at all? Do you see spamd write logs when mail
> goes through the system? How about that 'spamassassin -t -D < testmail',
> does it show lines about razor?
OK, here is my complete log; it does show lines about razor, but th
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 09:52:40PM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> No, I still don't have anything in the logs...
> Here is my sendmail entry concerning spamassassin:
> INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`spamassassin', `S=local:/var/run/spamass-milter.sock, F=,
> T=C:15m;S:4m;R:4m;E:10m')
>
> And here is the p
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On Monday 22 September 2003 11:16, Hannu Liljemark wrote:
> Does razor work now and does running spamassassin with the -D flag show
> razor in action?
No, I still don't have anything in the logs...
Here is my sendmail entry concerning spamassassin:
IN
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:09:14AM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> OK, use_razor2 is set to 1, but where (or how) do I set "network tests
> enabled" ?
> Thanks for your answer...
Hmm ok perhaps I got mixed up with RBL or some MIMEDefang thing; there's
no network tests.
Does razor work now an
Selon Hannu Liljemark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> You shoud be seeing a lot more of those... 'is not known spam' and
> 'is known spam'. Make sure you have use_razor2 set to 1 and network
> tests enabled. Do some test with 'spamassassin -t -D < testmail' and
> see if there's anything about razor.
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 02:16:57PM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> I just have one question regarding smapassassin and razor.
> How can I tell if spamassassin uses razor ?
> I have nothing in my razor logs exept when starting spamd, I get this:
> Sep 21 14:14:29.666323 check[50778]: [ 1] [bootup]
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Hi !
I just have one question regarding smapassassin and razor.
How can I tell if spamassassin uses razor ?
I have nothing in my razor logs exept when starting spamd, I get this:
Sep 21 14:14:29.666323 check[50778]: [ 1] [bootup] Logging initiated
Lo
Hi all,
**Exuse me for this newbie quetsion , but I did not find anywhere the
answer to
my question**
1-Could anyone explain me why, in Razor installation , when running
razor-admin
create it is useful to change user name from root.
What does it imply if user is still root?
2-Which percentage w
Hi all,
**Exuse me for this newbie quetsion , but I did not find anywhere the answer to
my question**
1-Could anyone explain me why, in Razor installation , when running razor-admin
create it is useful to change user name from root.
What does it imply if user is still root?
2-Which percentage w
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Daniel Quinlan wrote:
> The patch looks more like Morse code than a unified diff (it's
> quite corrupted). Use the one I posted earlier today.
Heh...you're right. That patch was corrupt.
Anyway, it patches fine now, but now I get an error on make
No need to CC me; I'm subscribed to the list.
Mike Loiterman wrote:
> Kris Deugau wrote:
> > The patch was created by someone else. I didn't apply it directly,
> > as I wanted a patch to apply during a .rpm build, so I rebuilt it
> > as a "whole-source-tree" patch. I've just pushed it out to
>
"Mike Loiterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is this the patch you posted:
>
> - - - --- Client/Core.pm~ 2002-11-25 19:07:38.0 +0100
> +++ Client/Core.pm2002-11-25 18:55:35.0 +0100
> @@ -216,8 +216,10 @@
> foreach $rr ($query->answer) {
> my $pushe
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Kris Deugau wrote:
> Mike Loiterman wrote:
>> I followed the instuructions below to patch Razor2's taint
>> problem. The Config.pm patch worked perfectly, but the Core.pm
>> patch failed at hunk 1. Is this an SA issue, or a Razor
>> issue..(i.e. pat
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> I posted my latest patches for razor 2.34 here a few days ago. I
Is this the patch you posted:
- - - --- Client/Core.pm~ 2002-11-25 19:07:38.0 +0100
+++ Client/Core.pm 2002-11-25 18:55:35.0 +0100
@@ -216,8 +216,10 @@
> "ML" == Mike Loiterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
ML> I followed the instuructions below to patch Razor2's taint problem.
ML> The Config.pm patch worked perfectly, but the Core.pm patch failed at
ML> hunk 1. Is this an SA issue, or a Razor issue..(i.e. patch created
ML> by Razor folks or
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I followed the instuructions below to patch Razor2's taint problem.
The Config.pm patch worked perfectly, but the Core.pm patch failed at
hunk 1. Is this an SA issue, or a Razor issue..(i.e. patch created
by Razor folks or SA folks)?
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Hello.
I found a strange thing. When I call razor via spamassassin
it works well, but when it's running via spamd it's does not work. But
anyway I see a traffic between my host and razor servers for every
message which is passed through spamd/razor.
I found it when I pass some messages from my sp
> On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Kelson Vibber wrote:
>
>> >I found a strange thing. When I call razor via spamassassin
>> >it works well, but when it's running via spamd it's does not work. But
>> >anyway I see a traffic between my host and razor servers for every
>> >message which is passed through spamd/ra
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote:
> >> >I found a strange thing. When I call razor via spamassassin
> >> >it works well, but when it's running via spamd it's does not work. But
> >> >anyway I see a traffic between my host and razor servers for every
> >> >message which is passed through spa
Eugene Filatov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I found a strange thing. When I call razor via spamassassin
it works well, but when it's running via spamd it's does not work. But
anyway I see a traffic between my host and razor servers for every
message which is passed through spamd/razor.
It may have to
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Kelson Vibber wrote:
> >I found a strange thing. When I call razor via spamassassin
> >it works well, but when it's running via spamd it's does not work. But
> >anyway I see a traffic between my host and razor servers for every
> >message which is passed through spamd/razor.
>
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 18:02, Raul Dias wrote:
> hi Kevin,
>
> Em Sex, 2003-07-25 Ã s 07:07, Kevin Buzzard escreveu:
> > On 24 Jul 2003, Raul Dias wrote:
> >
> > > Something I found interesting was using Razor + Pyzor + Dcc.
> > > Then I create meta rules that matchs:
> > > Razor + Pyzor
> > > Raz
Kevin Buzzard writes:
>We have already established in this thread that it is probably *not*
>a good idea in general to say "if razor says it's spam with
>probability > 90% then it's spam" because razor can make mistakes,
>or perhaps be tricked into making mistakes. Indeed the _point_ of spamassass
hi Kevin,
Em Sex, 2003-07-25 às 07:07, Kevin Buzzard escreveu:
> On 24 Jul 2003, Raul Dias wrote:
>
> > Something I found interesting was using Razor + Pyzor + Dcc.
> > Then I create meta rules that matchs:
> > Razor + Pyzor
> > Razor + Dcc
> > Pyzor + Dcc
> > Razor + Pyzor + Dcc (this will also,
Kevin Buzzard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So it seems to me that the _key_ issue here is: are razor, pyzor, dcc making
mistakes with the _same_ emails?
Not from what I can see. I posted some stats from my own server two weeks
ago in the "Razor2 vs DCC vs Pyzor" thread. I only compared Razor and
On 24 Jul 2003, Raul Dias wrote:
> Something I found interesting was using Razor + Pyzor + Dcc.
> Then I create meta rules that matchs:
> Razor + Pyzor
> Razor + Dcc
> Pyzor + Dcc
> Razor + Pyzor + Dcc (this will also, of course, match all three before).
This is definitely an interesting idea! Bu
Great suggestions Raul, Thanks!
--Larry
> -Original Message-
> From: Raul Dias
> > Now that is an interesting dilema. Since I don't run Bayes
> > I don't run into that situation. Your situation is like asking
> > SA to score your experience and score someone else's experience.
> > If
-Original Message-
From: Gilson, Larry
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 1:10 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Razor question
Great suggestions Raul, Thanks!
--Larry
> -Original Message-
> From: Raul Dias
> > Now that is an interesting dile
e
while list. if a spam is getting through and we're getting quite a number
of the same one, i chuck in the black list. simple...
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Buzzard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 9:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Razo
At 13:17 24/07/03 +0100, Kevin Buzzard wrote:
give me any output at all, i.e. none of my ham emails *at all* are listed
in razor or pyzor. I notice also that *almost all* of the spam that lands
in my inbox, i.e. that spamassassin misses, triggers razor or pyzor, but
that this wasn't enough. I am
> > What really pissed me off the other day was that I got some
> > spam which got a low bayes score (and hence -5) but a high razor
> > score (and hence +2 or so) so I ended up getting it...
>
> Now that is an interesting dilema. Since I don't run Bayes I don't run into
> that situation. Your
Em Qui, 2003-07-24 às 10:55, Larry Gilson escreveu:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kevin Buzzard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > What really pissed me off the other day was that I got some
> > spam which got a low bayes score (and hence -5) but a high razor
> > score (and hence +2 or
Thanks a lot to the many users of this list that have suggested, both via
the list and via personal email, various pro's and con's about my
suggestions. Ultimately the conclusions I drew were unsurprising:
(1) They're the default settings because they seem to work best for people
in general.
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