RE: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Mike Shkolnik
We are using Sendmail under Linux and Apache 1.3.28. The path is /usr/sbin/sendmail. -Original Message- From: Abigail Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 8:02 PM To: Mike Shkolnik Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all

Re: [SAtalk] razor

2003-09-21 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
Selon Hannu Liljemark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You shoud be seeing a lot more of those... 'is not known spam' and > 'is known spam'. Make sure you have use_razor2 set to 1 and network > tests enabled. Do some test with 'spamassassin -t -D < testmail' and > see if there's anything about razor.

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Webmail system incorporating sa-learn

2003-09-21 Thread Tomáš Macek
Thanks for answer, I'd like the same. But the problem is, that we have virtual accounts only and we do not use saving settings. The GUI is simple as possible, we had remove almost everything, that only reading/answering mails is possible in the IMP. I have the problem, that SAM/spamassassin is de

Re: [SAtalk] Running spam/nospam tests just sits there/hangs...what is required?

2003-09-21 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:09:09 -0700 "Mike Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > When I attempt to run the verification tests, spamassassin just sits there > doing nothing it seems. > > spamassassin -t sample-nonspam.txt > > Just 'hangs'. > > What might I need to configure/reconfigure?

Re: [SAtalk] razor

2003-09-21 Thread Hannu Liljemark
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 02:16:57PM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: > I just have one question regarding smapassassin and razor. > How can I tell if spamassassin uses razor ? > I have nothing in my razor logs exept when starting spamd, I get this: > Sep 21 14:14:29.666323 check[50778]: [ 1] [bootup]

[SAtalk] Running spam/nospam tests just sits there/hangs...what is required?

2003-09-21 Thread Mike Klein
I have installed SpamAssasin on a pretty much stock RH9 system (using sendmail, procmail?). A caveat...I'm not a sendmail jock...I've been able to make simple adjustments to my sendmail.mc/.cf files but by no means really 'understand' what the %$#^%$ I'm actually doing...sendmail is quite complex

Re: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Mike, Saturday, September 20, 2003, 6:31:39 PM, you wrote: MS> Any tips on how to auto-delete spam based on score without deleting all MS> spam? MS> Criteria: MS> Mark anything scoring 5 or above as Spam. (already doing that) MS> Delete anything scoring 15 or above FROM THE SERVER. (how?)

Re: [SAtalk] All these Microsoft patch spams

2003-09-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:34 PM 9/20/03 -0500, Philip Mak wrote: Can SpamAssassin do something about these messages? There's been a big flood of them recently, and they're all slipping through the filter. Well they're viruses from the sven worm, not spams, so your best bet would be to install a virus scanner and let

Re: [SAtalk] why it pass SA

2003-09-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 06:34 PM 9/21/03 -0400, landy wrote: any idea why this pass thru SA Well, first, that message is not spam, it's a virus. It's the result of a newer mail worm/virus called the swen worm. SpamAssassin sometimes tags viruses, but that's not it's job in life. It's job is to identify spam and take

Re: [SAtalk] to much spam

2003-09-21 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello landy, Sunday, September 21, 2003, 2:58:29 AM, you wrote: l> its amazing the amount of spam thas has pass thru saturday Oh? Not counting the latest virus, I had a total of six spams get through the filtering system, with one FP, from Sund

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Webmail system incorporating sa-learn

2003-09-21 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Tomáš, Sunday, September 21, 2003, 6:46:38 AM, you wrote: TM> I'm just developing something for our Webmail based on Horde+SAM+Imp. We use Horde here for webmail. Don't know whether SAM or Imp is in use. TM> In the IMP you can mark the message

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin 2.60-rc6 released

2003-09-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 06:53:14PM -0700, Morris Jones wrote: > I'm seeing the same thing when procmail calls spamc from "nobody". Not sure > what's going on there, but I haven't looked at the source. imnsho, it's another issue with razor not being taint safe. I haven't seen that error at all th

Re: [SAtalk] i would like to know how to score

2003-09-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:17 PM 9/21/03 -0400, landy wrote: how does this sum 4.0, Not to be rude, but this is so easy you really should be able to answer it yourself. The scores of the rules are added together. So, looking at 50_scores.cf and yanking out the score lines we get: score FREE_TRIAL 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.017 s

Re: [SAtalk] Blacklist from

2003-09-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:07 PM 9/21/03 +0200, Jim Knuth wrote: Hallo SA-List, how can I add an entry in the blacklist. I mean a faked to-address (this is not mine) The sender added like so? --snip spamassassin [EMAIL PROTECTED] --snap Thank you for help. That command adds it to the AWL system, and is NOT a static b

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin 2.60-rc6 released

2003-09-21 Thread Morris Jones
I'm seeing the same thing when procmail calls spamc from "nobody". Not sure what's going on there, but I haven't looked at the source. Mojo On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Steve Thomas wrote: > I just installed this and am now seeing this in the logs when Razor2 is called (yes, > I patched razor [2.36] b

[SAtalk] summary

2003-09-21 Thread landy
is there a way to see the list of test triggered during an entire day on incoming email --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Spamassassi

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes questions

2003-09-21 Thread Tony Lill
> "Dave" == Dave Kliczbor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dave> Before you subscribe to the list, you should add some lines to your Dave> spamassassin config: Dave> bayes_ignore_header X-Spam-Flag Dave> bayes_ignore_header X-purgate Dave> bayes_ignore_header X-purgate-ID Dav

[SAtalk] i would like to know how to score

2003-09-21 Thread landy
how does this sum 4.0, and the best way to make it score 5.0 Subject: Buy Low, Sell High "CMKK" Headed for $3 - Profit Now! X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.0 required=5.0 tests=FREE_TRIAL,NO_REAL_NAME,RCVD_IN_SBL,STOCK_PICK,SUBJ_BUY version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: --

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Spamassassin and qmail?

2003-09-21 Thread Dave Kliczbor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian Southam wrote: > There are 4 great open source MTAs out there : Postfix, Exim, sendmail and > qmail. > > 3 support spam and AV scanning with no patching. Addendum from me: There is also the Courier MTA. With some tweaking in maildrop it works also

[SAtalk] why it pass SA

2003-09-21 Thread landy
any idea why this pass thru SA From: MS Security Services <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Commercial Partner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: New Microsoft Critical Update Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:13:41 -0400 Microsoft All Products | Support | Se

RE: [SAtalk] Re: Spamassassin and qmail?

2003-09-21 Thread Ian Southam
Hi, > you will also need something like qmail-scanner, > and need to patch and > recompile qmail to support calling another > queue... One appendum to that advice ... There are 4 great open source MTAs out there : Postfix, Exim, sendmail and qmail. 3 support spam and AV scanning with no pat

[SAtalk] Re: New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-21 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Forrest Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Has anyone filters for Spamassassin that will correctly identify this > virus? I'd like to score this one high so they are rejected (via > spamass-milter)... it's been a huge problem all day. header _VIRUS_h0_SWEN_A SUBJECT =~ m{(Current|Newest|New|

Re: [SAtalk] Question for the FAQ

2003-09-21 Thread Ivar Magne Auestad
What I talk about is assassinating spam depending on Mail Attribute characteristics, like name. Chris Santerre wrote: You can see some of the custom virus rules at www.exit0.us I don't believe you will ever see them in releases of spamassassin. But you can always add the ones that are custom wri

[SAtalk] microsoft worm - working solution

2003-09-21 Thread Andreas Kotowicz
I found a posting in some newsgroup and modified the rules a bit. they work for me very nice. here you go: header MDS_Swen_A_0From=~ /(email|inet|internet|mail|microsoft|ms|net|network)/i header MDS_Swen_A_1From=~ /(section|service|system)/i header MDS_Sw

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin 2.60-rc6 released

2003-09-21 Thread Steve Thomas
I just installed this and am now seeing this in the logs when Razor2 is called (yes, I patched razor [2.36] before compiling): razor2 check skipped: Bad file descriptor Insecure dependency in connect while running setuid at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux/IO/Socket.pm line 108. I wasn't getting

[SAtalk] All these Microsoft patch spams

2003-09-21 Thread Philip Mak
Can SpamAssassin do something about these messages? There's been a big flood of them recently, and they're all slipping through the filter. 143 N Sep 19 Inet Mail Deliv (140K) returned message returned to mailer 144 N Sep 19 Mail Storage Sy (141K) undeliverable message: returned to sender 1

RE: [SAtalk] Maintaining a list of IP numbers

2003-09-21 Thread Larry Gilson
> -Original Message- > From: Jim > On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 02:48:14PM -0400, Larry Gilson wrote: > > The sender, meaning the header From does change. However, > > the envelopesender is consistent if mail is coming from the same > > user/machine. However,the envelope sender may change

Re: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-21 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Saturday, September 20, 2003 11:37 AM -0400 "Steven W. Orr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: By using spamass-milter you have the option of rejecting the message before reception completes. This way, the spammer knows that you have rejected his message and that you have not received it. Nope, he p

Re: [SAtalk] Maintaining a list of IP numbers

2003-09-21 Thread Jim
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 02:48:14PM -0400, Larry Gilson wrote: > The sender, meaning the header From does change. However, the envelope > sender is consistent if mail is coming from the same user/machine. However, > the envelope sender may change if it is a multi-user host. The envelope sender ca

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Spamassassin and qmail?

2003-09-21 Thread john
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Michael W. Cocke wrote: > > > I thought qmail was supposed to be SIMPLER than sendmail. Heh, just follow lifewithqmail and get it all working. Then start playing with it. It takes a bit of getting used to, but I like the way it works. I tend to use either exim or qmail (exi

[SAtalk] Blacklist from

2003-09-21 Thread Jim Knuth
Hallo SA-List, how can I add an entry in the blacklist. I mean a faked to-address (this is not mine) The sender added like so? --snip spamassassin [EMAIL PROTECTED] --snap Thank you for help. -- Viele Grüße Best regards Jim Knuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Spamassassin and qmail?

2003-09-21 Thread Tomáš Macek
Yes, qmail is simpler, but you must sometimes apply some patches... On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Michael W. Cocke wrote: > > > > I thought qmail was supposed to be SIMPLER than sendmail. > > Thanks. > > Mike- > > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 15:03:05 GMT, you wrote: > > >you will also need something like qmail-

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Spamassassin and qmail?

2003-09-21 Thread Stephane Lentz
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:30:57PM -0400, Michael W. Cocke wrote: > > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 15:03:05 GMT, you wrote: > > >you will also need something like qmail-scanner, and need to patch and > >recompile qmail to support calling another queue... > > > >http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net/

RE: [SAtalk] Maintaining a list of IP numbers

2003-09-21 Thread Larry Gilson
> -Original Message- > From: Kai Schaetzl > Jack L. Stone wrote on Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:08:51 -0500: > > > Research has led me to believe that the "envelope from" is the > > most reliable source of the actual sender. I am prepared to be > > corrected though and would like to be. > >

Re: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Tomáš Macek
no, thanks a lot for your interest. I want something for qmail. I read the mail including text that says "Yes, qmail is supported" before the mail including "sorry...", so that's my mistake. I'm really sorry On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Steven W. Orr wrote: > On Sunday, Sep 21st 2003 at 15:39 +0200, q

RE: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Tomáš Macek
Thank you all for help, hopefully it will help me. On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Brad Tarver wrote: > http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/spamass-milt/ > > -Original Message- > From: Tomáš Macek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 08:40 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subje

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Spamassassin and qmail?

2003-09-21 Thread Michael W. Cocke
I thought qmail was supposed to be SIMPLER than sendmail. Thanks. Mike- On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 15:03:05 GMT, you wrote: >you will also need something like qmail-scanner, and need to patch and >recompile qmail to support calling another queue... > >http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net/ > >

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes questions

2003-09-21 Thread Dave Kliczbor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Meunier wrote: > Train it with as much of your own spam as you can get. (Quit deleting > it for a while!) You may also subscribe to a mailinglist that provides you with spam :-) To subscribe to the list, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject

Re: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Jim
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 03:55:48AM -0700, Mike Shkolnik wrote: > I'm on a virtual server that has SpamAssassin implemented. I have access > to the user prefs file. I'm not sure what else. I would like to stick > with SpamAssassin. I'm not looking to install a whole new system. One way you could do

[SAtalk] Re: Spamassassin and qmail?

2003-09-21 Thread william f guyton jr
you will also need something like qmail-scanner, and need to patch and recompile qmail to support calling another queue... http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net/ http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/857/ http://www.linux-mag.com/2002-03/potm_01.html wfg john writes: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003

RE: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Oh pooh. Ignore me. Of course Patrick is right; it doesn't support qmail. > -Original Message- > From: Tom Meunier > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 9:51 AM > To: 'Tomáš Macek'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score > without deleting all spam >

RE: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Why, Google of course! http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/spamass-milt/ Yes, it works with qmail. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Tomáš Macek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 8:40 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based o

Re: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Patrick Morris
A "milter" is a filter program that works exclusively with Sendmail. A quick Google search found it here: http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/spamass-milt Milters don't work with Qmail. Tomáš Macek wrote: Can you tell me, where can I get the "spamass-milter" program?? Is it a script? Does it w

RE: [SAtalk] Really really simple spams - not enough to accumulate 4 points

2003-09-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Bayes, RBL checks, Razor, DCC, Pyzor. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Ed Greenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 8:58 AM > To: spamassassin talk > Subject: [SAtalk] Really really simple spams - not enough to > accumulate 4 points > > I've been getting

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes questions

2003-09-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Hi Ed, You can either wait until the auto-learning catches up and learns 200 messages, or if you're impatient (like me) and just want to get it going: Train it with as much recent good mail as you can get, then make up for it with older mail. Don't get all wrapped up in the timestamp issue. Train

[SAtalk] Really really simple spams - not enough to accumulate 4 points

2003-09-21 Thread Ed Greenberg
I've been getting a bunch of really simplistic messages that are not enough to generate four points. Something like: Totally happy ladies open to behave as madly as you ask. Go for it. I'm not here Each one uses different link and remove text. Has anybody found some good rules to catch these?

[SAtalk] Bayes questions

2003-09-21 Thread Ed Greenberg
I'd like to add Bayes filtering to catch a bit of spam that's passing through. I have some questions, if I may... It says I have to send a large corpus of recent mail through it sorted as spam and non-spam. I have a large corpus of non-spam in my archives, but it's not recent. Do I have to wor

Re: [SAtalk] Webmail system incorporating sa-learn

2003-09-21 Thread Tomáš Macek
Yes, that's dangerous - but only if the sa-learn settings is not system wide. Is it system wide? If so, it's dangerous, otherwise not. The student would have it's own setting in the home directory and if he doesn't get the professor's mail, professor will look into the log and will say, that he s

Re: [SAtalk] Webmail system incorporating sa-learn

2003-09-21 Thread Tomáš Macek
I'm just developing something for our Webmail based on Horde+SAM+Imp. In the IMP you can mark the messages for deletion or for moving into another folder and now I want to use this option to save the messages into the system-wide folder, where would wait sa-learn with the "-spam" parameter (run b

Re: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Tomáš Macek
Can you tell me, where can I get the "spamass-milter" program?? Is it a script? Does it work with qmail? Thank you for help On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Steven W. Orr wrote: > On Saturday, Sep 20th 2003 at 18:31 -0700, quoth Mike Shkolnik: > > =>Any tips on how to auto-delete spam based on score wit

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin and qmail?

2003-09-21 Thread john
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Michael W. Cocke wrote: > > I'm about to switch from sendmail to qmail and I was wondering if > anyone could point me to a decent "how to" on configuring qmail and > spamassassin. Not a specific guide in itself, but have a look at the spam section on your local qmail.org mirr

[SAtalk] razor

2003-09-21 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi ! I just have one question regarding smapassassin and razor. How can I tell if spamassassin uses razor ? I have nothing in my razor logs exept when starting spamd, I get this: Sep 21 14:14:29.666323 check[50778]: [ 1] [bootup] Logging initiated Lo

RE: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Mike Shkolnik
I'm on a virtual server that has SpamAssassin implemented. I have access to the user prefs file. I'm not sure what else. I would like to stick with SpamAssassin. I'm not looking to install a whole new system. Thanks, -Mike -Original Message- From: Benny Pedersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[SAtalk] to much spam

2003-09-21 Thread landy
its amazing the amount of spam thas has pass thru saturday --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAI

[SAtalk] how does it work

2003-09-21 Thread Muhannad Tamemi
Thanks for answering . I read some text about spam assassin .. But please can anyone give me some more info about spamassassin ?? how does it work , what does it do exactly . My problem , that i have mail server for up to 5000 user , and those users keep reciving junk mails , unwanted emails , or

RE: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-21 Thread Bob Sully
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Larry Gilson wrote: > I think the rule below should work. Give it a try. > > body MY_BAD_ATTACHMENTS /name=.*\.(com|pif|scr|exe|bat)("|$)/I > > I have found that 'filename=' does not always work so I shortened it to > 'name='. You guys are re-inventing the wheel, thoug