On Mar 29, 7:15 pm, "XO-1.org Rough Riders"
wrote:
> Bill
> Walton, with 11-year-old Moriah Swan
Those pictures of Moriah are hilarious!
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Thanks. I really liked the descriptions.
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Given that it is Spring, at least in most of the country, and rainy,
I would especially point to this sentence, near the end of the post.
"In really wet conditions, you should try to avoid trails, anyway,
because riding a bike (or a horse, or hiking) on muddy trails damages
them more."
As a land
Good read and I enjoy underbiking once in a while, and love riding dirt roads
on one of my versatile Riv/Grant bikes. But I prefer a suspended bike for
riding "real," trails just because I can't take the pounding.
I think Grant's preferences for roadish trail bikes stem in part from his
loca
Great Bleriot. I wish I could part with $2000.00.
I NEED a bike with S&S Couplers.
Sean
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From: Christopher Paul
Subject: Re: [RBW] WTB - Rivendell All-Rounder 54-57TT
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 5:34 PM
I hav
Thanks for the offer, Andrew, but I have decided to hold up a bit. I think it
will be better to decide which frame set I want, then build from there. Glad
you like the Jitensha bars.
Ride safe!
Ray Shine
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On Mar 30, 12:39 am, "XO-1.org Rough Riders"
wrote:
> Of course, YMMV; don't forget those skills I bragged about in my
> original article on the subject, way back in 1993!
>
> http://www.xo-1.org/2007/09/mountain-bikes-who-needs-them.html
>
> - Chris Kostman
> La Jolla, CA
What gave your articl
I think I just enjoy all kinds of riding off road.
When I ride with cross tires and drop bars, I really enjoy myself, even if I
get a bit beat up. I'm happy folks like Grant Petersen and Chris Kostman are
trying to popularize this type of riding as it's a lot of fun and most bikes
can do way more
I think that's the first I have ever seen Grant advocate for skinnier tires.
Dan Abelson
St. Paul, MN
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:47 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
> That was a great posting. I hope he keeps it up (some have a tendency to
> disappear).
>
> We should all wear coonskin hats on our next F
Curious, and I realize that Chris, back then, was exaggerating to make a
point: but question to y'all: at what point do y'all draw the line? I mean
this in two ways:
1. Where do *you* draw the line between a "road" bike and a "mountain" bike?
What would an Atlantis be? A Sam Hill? Suspension? Drop
I didn¹t read ³fat tires for the road and skinny tire for the dirt.² Rather,
I got the impression of a message consistent with past writings: You can be
happy riding fatter tire on pavement and skinnier tires off-road ‹ that is,
same tires for most all conditions. Then you don¹t need two specialize
On Mar 30, 2010, at 8:04, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
Curious, and I realize that Chris, back then, was exaggerating to
make a point: but question to y'all: at what point do y'all draw the
line? I mean this in two ways:
1. Where do *you* draw the line between a "road" bike and a
"mountain" bi
Hello
Does anyone have an "exploded drawing" of the silver shifters...
I have it all taken apart and want to make sure all the pieces are
going back in correctly.
Tiny springs kind of freak me out.
Thank you!
Jason
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A few years back, right before I moved to Portland, I was at a
friend's house and saw his new "cross bike" with "cranked stays" which
he had set up with flat bars, WTB 700x44 Mutano Raptors. The bike
(made by Rick Hunter in SC) seemed so perfect for riding in the SF Bay
Area. The perfect machine fo
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:33 AM, rswat...@me.com wrote:
>
>
> 2. And, more important, where -- what terrain and conditions -- do you,
>> personally, (y'all) leave the sub 28 mm tire'd, drop bar'd bike at home and
>> take out the other one?
>>
>
> You couldn't pay me to ride sub 28mm tires!
> '
>
I'd email or call Rivendell.
On Mar 30, 7:37 am, jandrews_nyc wrote:
> Hello
> Does anyone have an "exploded drawing" of the silver shifters...
> I have it all taken apart and want to make sure all the pieces are
> going back in correctly.
> Tiny springs kind of freak me out.
> Thank you!
> Jason
Riv World Headquarters isn't in Marin County, birthplace of mountain
biking. It's over in Walnut Creek, which is in Contra Costa County, on
the other side of the Bay. Different jurisdiction, different
mountains, different trails.
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Frederick, Steve
wrote:
>
> I thi
Most of the time, I like to use as little technology as possible, but
important factors I consider are:
- Am I meeting a bunch of "mountain bikers" for some hard charging? If
so, I usually take my Ritchey NiTi mtn bike (the first mtn bike I've
ever owned with a suspension fork, and I got it a year
Agreed re: downhills.
Also, the bike corners like no other bike I've ridden. I've never
taken corners this sharp, and it's a lot of fun.
On Mar 29, 11:49 pm, dpco wrote:
> i have to apologize for not sending pictures, but i ordered a new
> camera and i should getting it in april. bottom line,
figured it out..
can't believe it...
On Mar 30, 10:51 am, Mike wrote:
> I'd email or call Rivendell.
>
> On Mar 30, 7:37 am, jandrews_nyc wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hello
> > Does anyone have an "exploded drawing" of the silver shifters...
> > I have it all taken apart and want to make sure all the
> 1. Where do *you* draw the line between a "road" bike and a "mountain" bike?
Seems to me no matter how good the brazing, a Masi, DeRosa or the like
is not going to be competent off road, just as a full suspension - and
even a long front suspension - is a real dog on the road.
Otherwise, any dec
Bikes aren't "competent" - riders are!
Also, my suspension fork has a lock-out: with a simple twist, I can
lock it out and eliminate the pogo effect when riding on pavement or
hard-packed trails. Not that I ride my "mountain bike" more than a few
times a year, but I do appreciate that feature.
-
I guess I am more in Dustin's camp, while my favorite ride is a bike
with 32-40mm tires because I can do all roads and most dirt, true
MTB's have their place.
Having 29er' 2.2" tires just opens up terrrain that the skinnier
tires don't handle as well. Sandy and rocky terrrain require more
flotatio
Ah! Thanks for the geographical clarification!
Steve
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on 3/30/10 4:20 AM, Frederick, Steve at frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote:
> I think Grant's preferences for roadish trail bikes stem in part from his
> location--Marin County is opposed, even hostile toward biking on trails, going
> all the way back to the birth of modern mountain biking. The less
> Bikes aren't "competent" - riders are!
True enough. But I imagine even the best rider would get annoyed with
the twitchy ride of a steep head tube/short chain even on a gravel
road. I do anyway.
Front suspension lock outs are a swell feature if you absolutely gotta
have suspension in some con
I spent about 4 years where my only bike was a Gunnar crosshairs, and I made
a point of proving that I could ride just about any ³mountain bike² trail on
it. It was great, and I learned a lot about bike handling. I remember
getting crazy stares high up in the Rockies when groups of mountain bikers
I love all this stuff - and Grant's and Chris' writings are fun,
provocative, and useful. Rough riding & underbiking is where its at.
Seems to be a common interest among the Riv Appreciation Society
riders down here.
It is indeed fun to ride a road bike with Jack Browns or Pasela 32s or
35s out on
I have two pre-aged saddles, both are Champion Flyer's, one is an S
model. Both saddles have around 4000 to 5000 miles on them with no
apparent ill-effect. They are both "tied" in the middle to keep the
middle from sagging too much, which makes a person tend to slide
forward.
On Mar 29, 6:02 pm,
I just caught this:
http://www.adventurecorps.com/chronicles/2003/2003moabmaze/pages/DSC01285.html
and
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4473833906/
Kindred spirits.
So.. will someone build up a Hillborn in this manner? Or post pics if
you got it? Seems like it would be pretty perfect fo
I think an expansion of Grant's posting would be to apply it to ALL riding.
Everything he said about demeanor and appearance applies to whenever I'm on
a bike. I try to look "normal" when I ride, not just because it's more
comfortable, but because maybe Joe-sixpack-just downsized-you betcha' in th
Greetings 2 all,
Is it ok to have front rack holes drilled into a steel fork ? Also,
is it ok to drill holes for a water bottle cage on the bottom of a
steel down tube for a 3rd water bottle?
any thoughts on this will be appreciated!
Chris
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If the SH would take tires 20 mm fatter than 40, I'd build it up like this
in a minute -- drops, though. A low bb drop barr'd, light-tubed (relative to
most mtbs) off road bike would indeed be a blast.
Question: does riding full suspension on the road, with riser bars (and
against a headwind) coun
I have two B-17 standards. One in honey and one in black. They are
the only two Brooks saddles I have ever owned. The honey one I bought
in December for my Hillborne. The black one I just put on my new
Bombadil. Both of them cam our of the box, off of the card and
straight on to my bike. I've
I'm no frame builder, but my own inclination would be to keep drills very
far away from my front fork. I'm getting rack braze ons to fork a frame
here, locally, in Albuquerque, and the builder charges about $25 per
fitting, ie $50 for a pair, paint not included.
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:46 AM, C
My Hillborne is pretty close to Chris's all rounder with slightly
smaller 700x40 knobbies. I did start with Noodle drop bars but after a
particularly steep and long dirt downhill this past Sunday I am
starting to think about a different handlebar. Maybe a WTB dirt drop
( with black ano removed! ) b
Here's Mike's monstercross (forgive me) Hillborne all-rounder bomber:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347...@n05/4449447882/sizes/l/
Pretty awesome! Mike - have you thought of adding 'cross levers?
They might do the trick nicely.
I'd prefer an Hillborne built up this way to a Hunqa. But that's
Wow! That bike really pops off the screen.
Nice!
> From: Esteban
> Reply-To:
> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:09:16 -0700 (PDT)
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.
>
> Here's Mike's monstercross (forgive me) Hillborne all-rounder bomber:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/ph
Yea! I'm looking at my Rawland here in the office, thinking "I have
all the parts for a trail-bred Hillborne except wheels."
Indeed, the lower tt makes a Hillborne a great candidate for trails.
That's the one unmentioned aspect in all this underbiking business --
its nice to have some space betwe
In my experience of a dozen or so, the black Brooks saddles have been harder
than the honey ones ‹ sometimes objectionably so.
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Drawings ‹ all sorts
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Speaking of spreading this gospel, my latest article, "Any Bike,
Anywhere: The Rough Rider's Way of Life" is published in the current
(March, #68) issue of Endurance News, a magazine published by Hammer
Nutrition. It's mailed to all of Hammer's current customers, but also
published online. You can
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Christopher Paul wrote:
> Greetings 2 all,
>
> Is it ok to have front rack holes drilled into a steel fork ? Also,
> is it ok to drill holes for a water bottle cage on the bottom of a
> steel down tube for a 3rd water bottle?
>
>
Don't drill the downtube. The tubi
on 3/30/10 8:46 AM, Christopher Paul at zdree...@gmail.com wrote:
> Is it ok to have front rack holes drilled into a steel fork ? Also,
> is it ok to drill holes for a water bottle cage on the bottom of a
> steel down tube for a 3rd water bottle?
>
> any thoughts on this will be appreciated!
It
I decided to try out the new 2.25 Schwalbe Marathon Extremes on my 56
Atlantis:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/4476856934/
They roll faster than I expected on the road and quite nimble off-
road, but that may be the adrenaline shot of a new bike talking.
Big fun, nonetheless.
-- J
I finished the build late last night. The last thing to do was the
shifters. I taped and shellacked the bars before putting the barcons
in, and twined the housing to the drops externally. Now I can pull
the shifters, cables and housing without disrupting the tape job.
First time for me to do tha
This isn't the best picture of them, but I just put on some Origin8 Space
bars. Low rise bars with a nice sweep back. They are wonderfully
comfortable so far, although I haven't gone for an extended ride yet.
They're pretty similar to OnOne Mary bars. Made in China. Available at
your LBS throug
Those tires are bananas! More up closes, please. I wanna see your
clearances. Nicely done.
On Mar 30, 10:39 am, jose wrote:
> I decided to try out the new 2.25 Schwalbe Marathon Extremes on my 56
> Atlantis:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/4476856934/
>
> They roll faster than
Hmmm...I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the perspective.
On Mar 30, 10:34 am, Jon Grant wrote:
> In my experience of a dozen or so, the black Brooks saddles have been harder
> than the honey ones ‹ sometimes objectionably so.
>
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> Illustration + Information Graphics
> Au
I don't mind the red tires a bit, and the brakes are pretty cool, actually.
I'm really glad you got rid of the black seatpost, though...B-)
Steve
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Black seatpost!?!? That piece of garbage was only for clamping in the
workstand. LOL. The thought! A black seatpost.hah!
On Mar 30, 11:34 am, "Frederick, Steve"
wrote:
> I don't mind the red tires a bit, and the brakes are pretty cool, actually.
> I'm really glad you got rid of the blac
I could do with the frameset alone if that helps. I think the MB-3
stopped at 59. Anyone have a 61cm All Rounder by chance? Essentially
looking for the tallest lugged frame 26" wheeled bike I can find for a
trailer-pulling project.
Marty
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Thanks for the perspective, Jim. I've always read about the access troubles in
Marin--guess you shouldn't believer everything you read, eh? Controversy sells
more magazines and advocacy pitches, I guess...
Steve
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On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Christopher Paul wrote:
> Greetings 2 all,
>
> Is it ok to have front rack holes drilled into a steel fork ? Also,
> is it ok to drill holes for a water bottle cage on the bottom of a
> steel down tube for a 3rd water bottle?
>
> any thoughts on this will be appr
I've had the same experience with the honey / black. Fortunately the
last black B-17 I acquired had been pre-aged by a previous owner. :)
My honey saddle is like heaven since new. (after the ~10th ride)
I've a green B-17 (ti) that I've had to struggle to break in. I'd
say the stiffness was simi
I haven't done the analysis specifically, but I have done somewhat
similar stress analysis. That experience would lead me to speculate
that the nicer brazed in ones (the ones with a nice large footprint
and deep threads) would make the hole as strong or stronger than the
undrilled tube. That's ho
William, congrats on the bike, it looks great. Give us some more
updates with impressions on how it handles off road.
--mike
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Oh, now you want me to RIDE it? I was gonna start pulling together my
next build!
Just kidding (a little). I will definitely be underriding with it
soon. I might even do some videos
On Mar 30, 1:45 pm, Mike wrote:
> William, congrats on the bike, it looks great. Give us some more
> updates wi
The Atlantis' I assume are still selling out slowly, but the Atlantis
is still promoted fairly prominently on the front page of
rivbike.com. My wife needs a bike, and I have been thinking about a
Betty or maybe an Atlantis. I'm not really all that close to being
able to afford it, so I've been lo
William:
No, you weren't crazy to get that impression. There was something a
while back (maybe on the Atlantis page, maybe a knothole post, not
sure) about getting the last batch of Toyo built Atlantis'. There was
a vague mention of having them made elsewhere, maybe Taiwan but it was
still undec
Chris:
Second Patricks' comment re: drills.
I asked a frame builder about adding mid fork low rider mounts to my
Atlantis. I wanted the thru the fork tubes like they do now. He
wouldn't do it but said adding regular rack fittings to either the
front or the back of the fork was fine. That's wha
Well, it's still for sale. I like the bit about "part of a 20 year
collection we're selling". "But wait! There's more!" Let's see,
$2k for nice old classic or the better part of a new Hunq?
Hdifferent markets, I suppose.
dougP
On Mar 29, 8:58 pm, cyclotourist wrote:
> Not really. T
If it goes for $3K or so, and to someone who has always wanted one and now
has the money to buy it, *and will ride it*, hey, nothing wrong with that.
What a great bike out of the box to ride everywhere! But if it's some
collector who is going to put it in the "Fancy & Rare Bicycle Room" which
adjo
Don't forget the Hillborne. You have lots of options... :-)
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:00 PM, doug peterson wrote:
> William:
>
> No, you weren't crazy to get that impression. There was something a
> while back (maybe on the Atlantis page, maybe a knothole post, not
> sure) about getting the la
I have some flat bars on the 29er... I think with a 9d sweep. They
are the only choice with hydraulic disc brakes. I have not tried the
Mustache bars yet so I don't know how they would be. I prefer drop
bars in most cases and would put them on the 29er if they would work
with hydraulics, but I wou
I'm 100% in the same boat as you. My 29er came w/ hydraulic discs, so I'm
kinda' locked into some sort of a straight bar. Marys, Space or Misfit
Fubar are all good options.
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Michael_S wrote:
> I have some flat bars on the 29er... I think with a 9d sweep. They
>
Mark told me that the H is not as stout as the A, but, for $1K frame + fork,
that's what I'd choose unless I wanted to run tires fatter than 40 mm wif
fenders, in which case I'd look closely at the Hunquapilar.
Hell, that is what I *did* choose!
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:41 PM, cyclotourist wrote
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:23 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
> If it goes for $3K or so, and to someone who has always wanted one and now
> has the money to buy it, *and will ride it*, hey, nothing wrong with
> that. What a great bike out of the box to ride everywhere! But if it's
> some collector who i
The clearance is not bad, with even enough room for fenders.
I uploaded some pics with clearance closeup's here.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/sets/72157623736280612/
On Mar 30, 1:28 pm, William wrote:
> Those tires are bananas! More up closes, please. I wanna see your
> cleara
Nah. Not at all garish. Elegant, actually compared to some of the
bikes I and my wife have ridden. The tires actually remind me of the
old Schwinn Sidewinders. If'n remember correctly, those were
available in red.
Also don't consider it an "underbike" except fer the fact many trails
have been
If it's Waterford built it'll be as good as it gets IMO. It's just a
matter of deciding what your wife wants. I once talked to Matthew at
Kogswell and he said that the Atlantis was one of the most thought out
and best designed bicycles ever built and I'd have to agree. Then
again that's a matter of
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Michael_S wrote:
> I have some flat bars on the 29er... I think with a 9d sweep. They
> are the only choice with hydraulic disc brakes. I have not tried the
> Mustache bars yet so I don't know how they would be. I prefer drop
> bars in most cases and would put the
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Jason Hartman wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:23 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
>> If it goes for $3K or so, and to someone who has always wanted one and now
>> has the money to buy it, *and will ride it*, hey, nothing wrong with
>> that. What a great bike out o
Correct. Full hydraulic systems use proprietary levers, so you're stuck w/
whatcha' got. Mechanical discs are a different story.
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:26 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Michael_S wrote:
>
>> I have some flat bars on the 29er... I think with
man those are some burly lookin' tires... looks perfect on the
Atlantis!
I may get some of the 40's for my Hillborne when the Smart Sam's wear
out.
~Mike~
On Mar 30, 12:48 pm, jose wrote:
> The clearance is not bad, with even enough room for fenders.
>
> I uploaded some pics with clearance clo
A color blind rider nightmare!!! Just kidding!
I think heads will turn when you pass, you just won't know if it's the bike
or the color scheme! I like your boldness.
Welcome to the Bombadil club!!!
René
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Now if we can just get you to use a silver rack...:)
It looks great!
Ryan
On Mar 30, 11:39 am, William wrote:
> Black seatpost!?!? That piece of garbage was only for clamping in the
> workstand. LOL. The thought! A black seatpost.hah!
>
> On Mar 30, 11:34 am, "Frederick, Steve"
> wrote
i'm still puzzling over this Bleriot .. wondering if a dirt drop stem will
calm the twitchy front end down, versus the Technomic dlxe that is on there
now, while keeping the noodle bars. maybe improve the handling with a closer
bar position a bit?
am i mad to think so? :)
best,
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Do you have a picture of your existing set-up?
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On Mar 30, 7:37 pm, andrew hill wrote:
> i'm still puzzling over this Bleriot .. wondering if a dirt drop stem will
> calm the twitchy front end down, versus the Technomic dlxe that is on there
> now, while keeping the noodle bars. maybe im
And the 48cm Hunqa, for that matter. There are plenty of choices,
all good.
On Mar 30, 4:41 pm, cyclotourist wrote:
> Don't forget the Hillborne. You have lots of options... :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:00 PM, doug peterson wrote:
> > William:
>
> > No, you weren't crazy to get t
I'm upgrading a 61cm Riv Custom from 9-speed brifters to 7-speed
friction shifting. Plan to set it up with Nitto mini front rack,
decaleur, Ostrich handlebar bag. I notice many bike with similar set-
ups use downtube shifters.
I'm considering bar-end shifters, and wondering ...
will the front ba
yeah - some linkage:
http://salamander.net/stage/Bleriot/IMG_1925.jpg
http://salamander.net/stage/Bleriot/IMG_1926.jpg
-a
On Mar 30, 2010, at 8:01 PM, rcnute wrote:
> Do you have a picture of your existing set-up?
>
> Ryan
>
> On Mar 30, 7:37 pm, andrew hill wrote:
>> i'm still puzzling ove
More spreading of the gospel:
For those of you who aren't members of the Adventure Cycling
Association (some of us remember them as Bikecentennial), I'm pleased
to report that they featured rough riding, and the Rough Riders Rally
in particular, in their February issue. You can read a scan of it o
This may run contrary to the general approach adopted by many on this
list, but I'd recommend lowering the bars a lot -- so that they're
level to the saddle height or perhaps even just below.
The front end of my Bleriot felt a little floppy when I had the bars
well above saddle height. When I lowe
Larry:
Lots of people run bar-ends with a handlebar bag. You'll be able to
smoothly route the housings, one way or another: either all the way to
the stem under the tape, or just straight out from the tape about 6"
ahead of the shifters. If the latter, usually you can route the
housings immediatel
PS As a follow-up, you may want to consider having your shifter cables
cross along the down tube. In other words, the rear derailleur housing
would loop from the shifter over to the left side of the down tube,
and vice-versa. This makes a cleaner arc in many cases. I often set up
bar-ends with the
Pretty much what I was thinking as well. Even if it calls for a couple cms
shorter stem to keep the reach similar, try lowering the bars a fair amount
and see how it feels. Seems to me like that high stem is rotating
everything back, which lightens up the front end and presumably makes it
more se
I third Aaron and Doug.
Ryan
On Mar 30, 9:05 pm, Doug Van Cleve wrote:
> Pretty much what I was thinking as well. Even if it calls for a couple cms
> shorter stem to keep the reach similar, try lowering the bars a fair amount
> and see how it feels. Seems to me like that high stem is rotating
yeah, what they said. Lower the bars and see if that helps. If you
need the bars that high to be comfy, I think wiide is the way
to go, probably some sort of really wide flat or swept bars. It looks
like you have some wide drop bars on there already, but some of the
flared drops are really
Yes--still like butter. I was wondering for how many days would I be
experiencing sore sitbones from the new B-17S. That would be 3! That's
it?! Ok! Other than that,(and that's not a Riv thing anyway) the bike
rides real well. The only other exception being that I suspect
something is going on with
Larry, I use a Berthoud HB bag supported by a Mark's rack on my Hilsen
with BE shifters and it works fine. You might want to leave the cables
and housing a bit a tad longer to accommodate the bag.
Not sure if this helps but take a gander:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/3419940264/in/se
William, if your wife needs a 47 Atlantis, chances are that the
smallest Hillborne won't fit her. I had that conversation with Keven
once when I was shopping for a bike for my wife( she's 5'2", with a
73cm pbh). In the end, I got her a 46cm LHT (she was more comfortable
with that price range, any
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