Here's Mike's monstercross (forgive me) Hillborne all-rounder bomber:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347...@n05/4449447882/sizes/l/

Pretty awesome!  Mike - have you thought of adding 'cross levers?
They might do the trick nicely.

I'd prefer an Hillborne built up this way to a Hunqa.  But that's
perhaps meant for beefier riding/loads?

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Mar 30, 9:54 am, Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> My Hillborne is pretty close to Chris's all rounder with slightly
> smaller 700x40 knobbies. I did start with Noodle drop bars but after a
> particularly steep and long dirt downhill this past Sunday I am
> starting to think about a different handlebar. Maybe a WTB dirt drop
> ( with black ano removed! ) because long continous braking  is much
> better in the drops which are not as comfortable on the Noodles. Can't
> access Flicker from work but pics are at my site under Mikeybikes. The
> Hillborne is perfect for this with the upslope top tube. Next up are
> some 700x 45 or 47 knobbies, I've been eyeing the Kenda Karma's at
> 1.9"  wondering if they would fit?
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Mar 30, 9:23 am, Esteban <proto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I just caught 
> > this:http://www.adventurecorps.com/chronicles/2003/2003moabmaze/pages/DSC0...
> > andhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4473833906/
>
> > Kindred spirits.
>
> > So.. will someone build up a Hillborn in this manner?  Or post pics if
> > you got it? Seems like it would be pretty perfect for such a build.
> > Don't mean to hijack the "skinny tires offroad" thread.
>
> > Esteban
> > San Diego, Calif.
>
> > On Mar 30, 9:06 am, Esteban <proto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I love all this stuff - and Grant's and Chris' writings are fun,
> > > provocative, and useful. Rough riding & underbiking is where its at.
> > > Seems to be a common interest among the Riv Appreciation Society
> > > riders down here.
>
> > > It is indeed fun to ride a road bike with Jack Browns or Pasela 32s or
> > > 35s out on the trails.  Its a gas.  I'm also having a gas on the
> > > Rawland with 58mm knobbies, but all-rounder geometry.  Think "XO-1
> > > with a 6 degree upslope tt and fat ass tires."  I don't get out on
> > > singletrack as much as I like, but when I do (Big Laguna loop, Los
> > > Penasquitos Preserve, San Clemente Canyon, Nobel Canyon here in SD
> > > County), I certainly have a ball on that bike.  I like to ride to the
> > > trail if possible, and the knobbies sure do cause a racket!
>
> > > I'm an overly cautious rider on dirt, and as Chris mentions, a lot of
> > > where I ride can be pretty darn rocky offroad.  And if I'm to believe
> > > Dustin, some of the rides I'd like to do would cause more sanity with
> > > suspension.
>
> > > I think suspension is helpful if you're in a group.  The thing is, and
> > > here's where I think Grant's spot on (if indeed conservative), if you
> > > just go slow, hike-a-bike, enjoy the scenery, you can take any bike
> > > nearly anywhere.
>
> > > Looking forward to the Rough Riders Rally to discuss this further with
> > > kindred souls!
>
> > > On Mar 30, 9:28 am, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > > on 3/30/10 4:20 AM, Frederick, Steve at frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote:
>
> > > > > I think Grant's preferences for roadish trail bikes stem in part from 
> > > > > his
> > > > > location--Marin County is opposed, even hostile toward biking on 
> > > > > trails, going
> > > > > all the way back to the birth of modern mountain biking.  The less 
> > > > > you look
> > > > > like a "Mountain biker," the less likely you are to face the wrath of 
> > > > > upset
> > > > > hikers and ticket writing rangers.
>
> > > > Actually, Grant and Rivendell's location is in the East Bay - 
> > > > specifically
> > > > Contra Costa county. That doesn't change or undercut his message - and 
> > > > in
> > > > fact his comments are incredibly salient.
>
> > > > I, on the other hand, have somehow managed to remain in Marin.
>
> > > > Lucky me... ;^)
>
> > > > In the interest of not promoting stereotypes, it should be noted that
> > > > attitudes of hostility here in "the birthplace of mountain biking" have
> > > > refined and mellowed over the years.  Yes, there are high-profile and
> > > > hotheaded comments made from the same entrenched individuals on both 
> > > > sides
> > > > of access issues, and that tends to get press when it happens.  But, the
> > > > facts are that bicycles have been common on the trails for more than 20
> > > > years. in general, people are used to them and realize they aren't going
> > > > anywhere.
>
> > > > Most people behave well. Many people could use some constructive 
> > > > criticism.
> > > > Some people have no clue.
>
> > > >http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=273
>
> > > > I do find that when people see me way up some trail on the Hilsen or
> > > > Quickbeam, the first response is to smile.  But, I'm pretty proactive in
> > > > doing the same and finding something to comment about, other than saying
> > > > "onyerleft".  Wildflowers, birds and weather are always good starting
> > > > points.  
>
> > > > - Jim
>
> > > > --
> > > > Jim Edgar
> > > > cyclofi...@earthlink.net
>
> > > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com
> > > > Current Classics - Cross Bikes
> > > > Singlespeed - Working Bikes
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