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> Thanks for the pics. Looked like an awesome ride.
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How many miles?
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Steve:
Would like to plan 2 rides:
April 13-14: Delaware Water Gap Adventure Loop - 2-day credit
card/self-supported (on/off road), which features a scenic rural road ride
up the Delaware River on Day 1, with the Day 2 return leg including a mixed
hilly terrain route through High Point/Stokes
Hi all,
For the folks coming from Virginia, if there is a possiblity of a car-pool
please let me know. I can't offer a vehicle as my car only carries one
bike but would be happy to carpool and split the gas costs. I'm flexible
for Friday and would prefer to stay in Frostburg friday nite, but
I hope you will be able to join after all, Steve, but if not this
year, this rally, maybe next year or another Riv Rally. Let's hope
there will be plenty.
Fallingwater is not simply a house. It's an extraordinary place... a
place that I could spend every day enjoying, let alone a mere hour-
long
It’s increasingly unlikely that I will be able to ride this one, but I
wanted to put in my 2 cents about Fallingwater for anyone who’s
considering (or not considering) the side trip: Do it. You may have seen
other Wright houses and buildings, or Wright and architecture may not be on
your r
een planning a DC to Pittsburgh trip on the trails and if I could plan
> it to overlap with the rally that would be fun.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Larry Powers
>
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> > Date: Tue, 7 Fe
Powers
Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain
> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:05:59 -0800
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
> From: montclairbob...@gmail.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
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> The Paddlers Lane Guest House has 3 queen
The Paddlers Lane Guest House has 3 queen beds, 8 singles, a sofabed
and a sofa, so it will (arguably) sleep 12 comfortably, or 13 with one
on the sofa. Below is the list of the first 13 responses (Rusty, I'm
trying to keep your group together, I'm happy to take the couch)... we
can shift people ar
; person. We'd love to do the Fallingwater side trip
>
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> > [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:58 PM
> > To: RBW
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:58 PM
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> Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
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> Shuttle Update: Good news... Wilderness Voyageurs (WV) provided me with what
> I consider a very reasonable rate for 2 vans (to shut
Bobby, This is TOM NEZOVICH, RBW'er from Cleveland. I would like to be
included in this year's Riv Rally East
I could start in Cumberland or Frostburg. I will be starting from
Cumberland in either case.
I would like to be included in the Paddlers Lane Retreat guest house
accommodation.
Side Note:
We (group of 5 cyclists) stayed in the Paddler's Lane guest house in 2006. It
was great. Highly Recommended.
Thanks,
Sean
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From: Allingham II, Thomas J
Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
To: "'r
Minh:
The GAP Trail web site has lots of great info... check it out -
http://www.atatrail.org/
The mileage chart on the site indicates it's a total of 62 miles on
Day 1 from Cumberland to Confluence, or 47 miles from Frostburg to
Confluence.
The elevation chart indicates from Cumberland to the C
Bobby,
With the updates, are the mileage estimates still valid for day 1 and
day 2? I'm just trying to plan and have a think about whether i can
handle the distance, especially coming out of winter hibernation.
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Shuttle Update
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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:58 PM
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Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
Shuttle Update: Good news... Wilderness Voyageurs (WV) provided me with what I
consider a very reasonable rate for 2 v
Additional Info:
Lodging
In Cumberland, MD
http://www.atatrail.org/tmi/get_amenities_city.cfm?PassCity=Cumberland&Map=1
In Frostburg, MD
http://www.atatrail.org/tmi/get_amenities_city.cfm?PassCity=Frostburg&Map=1
http://www.atatrail.org/docs/frostburgbrochure.pdf
In Confluence, PA
http://www.at
Shuttle Update: Good news... Wilderness Voyageurs (WV) provided me
with what I consider a very reasonable rate for 2 vans (to shuttle
approx 25 passengers plus bikes and gear). They have a large rack on
top of one van, and a box trailer for the balance of the bikes and
gear. The price quote is $
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Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
I'm waiting on several shuttle services to respond to my requests.
Only one has gotten back to me, and they require that we rent an
Bobby,
Logistics is an issue. It's still early for me and I've only had my
first cup of coffee
My friend and I camped the entire route except one nasty rainy night
where we found a bunk house and spent the night. Nice primitive
campgrounds along the way.
Wonder if we can work this into a scen
Bobby I was discussing the logistics with my wife this morning and she came
up with a suggestion (sorry if you've already thought of this): What about
renting a one-way U-haul truck from Connellville to Frostburg or
Cumberland? It would only require one of the riders (or two) to drive it
back
Bobby, Yes, so many options. Thanks again for all the time and organizing
you're putting into this ride. I too was thinking about options and
wondering if I could do something along the lines of your third choice
(people doing the shuttle with a combination of vehicles). Anyway, I'm
hoping fo
Steve:
That's the fallback option... The first choice would be for Amtrak to
get their sh** together and allow roll-on/roll-off for bikes (but I
won't hold my breath)
Second choice would be to get a shuttle service to transport people
and bikes between the finish and the start (which I'm working o
The early hour and drive I could do, extra uphill maybe. But I need to get
in a bit of shape before then. I know that sounds sorry. Would prefer
another solution if possible. Steve
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I'm waiting on several shuttle services to respond to my requests.
Only one has gotten back to me, and they require that we rent an
entire bus... Unless we have 40 people it may not be practical.
One option I'm considering will be to start in Cumberland, MD, booking
a hotel close to the Cumberland
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 12:43 -0500, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote:
> Steve: Would Jack Brown Greens (the lighter weight version) be okay
> on the trail, or do I (ideally, anyway) need something fatter and
> sturdier?
Many people think 33.33mm wide tires are plenty fat for seriously bad
gravel roa
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 12:03 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
> The JB Greens work great on gravel and crushed limestone of the type
> Steve P described. No promises that you won't get a flat or six, but I
> never flatted them riding around Minneapolis several hundred miles
> last summer..
The JB Greens work great on gravel and crushed limestone of the type Steve
P described. No promises that you won't get a flat or six, but I never
flatted them riding around Minneapolis several hundred miles last
summer...until I went out to Oregon and flatted numerous times on thorns.
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> From: Allingham II, Thomas J
> Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
> To: "'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com'"
> Date: Friday, January 20, 2012, 12:43 PM
> Steve: Would Jack Brown Greens
>
: Sunday, January 15, 2012 6:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 14:54 -0800, islaysteve wrote:
> Since I took the time to explore the links that Bobby provided, I've
> answered most of my questions: It looks like
Bobby, thanks again for your efforts. I will be flexible for the
situation. Deposit is definitely a given.
Steve
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Steve:
The success of this ride will depend on a solution for shuttling
riders (since it is a point-to-point ride). I've got inquiries out to
half a dozen shuttle services; between them we should be able to find
a solution. Depending on their capability, it may require shuttling
in advance or at
Bobby, I've been looking around on the GAP website and i went to some of
the shuttle sites listed. I see that there are limited choices. For your
advance planning purposes, please put me down for the trip, and I will need
a shuttle for my bike and myself from Connellsville back to Frostburg.
I'm putting this on the calendar now!
New to Riv, and looking forward to a local(I'm from Pittsburgh),
ride. I'll follow this link for updates.
Anyone from the Pittsburgh area planning to join? We can head down
together.
Rusty
On Jan 12, 11:24 pm, Montclair BobbyB
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> OK, it's a new ye
Anyone driving down from New England?
I am in VT, would love to do this, but would probably want to split the
costs/hassle of driving to MD with someone. Message me offline if you want
to figure something out!
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Sounds like fun. It's on my calendar, and hopefully the work schedule will
be cooperative!
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I'm.psych'd, it's on my calendar.
Marc
On Jan 12, 10:24 pm, Montclair BobbyB
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> OK, it's a new year, and I'm starting to get excited about Riv Rally
> East 2012. Here's the quick skinny on this year's plan (so far):
>
> This year I'm planning the 2-day Rally to ride along the Great
> Alle
The trail is still missing a small portion going through the
Sandcastle waterpark - it was supposed to have been completed by the
winter, but it ran a little behind schedule and is slated to be
completed in the spring now. They seemed to be mostly done with it
when last I passed, so that estimate c
Man, oh man. I'm 98% in (the work schedule pending).
Done the GAP/C&O and ride the Pittsburgh/Ohiopyle leg often. The GAP
trail mileage is shorter than the drive.
ANDY
Pittsburgh
On Jan 12, 11:24 pm, Montclair BobbyB
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> OK, it's a new year, and I'm starting to get excited about Riv Rally
Thanks for the info, Bobby and Steve. Sounds like fun, I'm seriously
considering it. Steve
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We still have a few things to work out, including shuttle, lodging,
etc...
The goal of the ride is to appeal to a wide group by making it
interesting and challenging, but not necessarily difficult. The
scenery will be spectacular. No rider will be left behind.
According to the GAP website, dist
I signed up for the Adventure Cycling tour along this route in
September, to do some riding in a "social setting", hopefully.
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, islaysteve wrote:
> Since I took the time to explore the links that Bobby provided, I've
> answered most of my questions: It looks like a
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 14:54 -0800, islaysteve wrote:
> Since I took the time to explore the links that Bobby provided, I've
> answered most of my questions: It looks like a moderate climb out of
> Frostburg for 10+ miles to the Eastern Continental Divide (cool), and
> then moderate downhill all th
Since I took the time to explore the links that Bobby provided, I've
answered most of my questions: It looks like a moderate climb out of
Frostburg for 10+ miles to the Eastern Continental Divide (cool), and then
moderate downhill all the way. Pretty good for an out-of-shape geezer like
me.
Even though I'm not that far from the area for the ride, I've never done
even a part of it. What's your estimate of the daily mileage, and how much
climbing, not including trip to Falllingwater? Fallingwater is well worth
seeing, I've toured it 6 or 7 times over the years, so I could give it m
On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 17:14 -0800, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
> Thanks for the warning, Larry... It may not be practical to do the
> FallingWater side trip... it is quite a house, though isn't it?
>
> BB
>
> On Jan 13, 7:13 pm, Larry Powers wrote:
> > Sounds like a great ride. I will warn people
On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 15:37 -0800, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> What a missed opportunity... shame on AMTRAK.
They are perfectly aware of it. They promised in public statements;
they delayed implementation, they said, because they had no experience
with roll-on roll-off service (even though they
We never made it because we weren't prepared. I am giving some serious thought
to joining this trip just to try it again.
Larry Powers
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> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:14:01 -0800
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East
Thanks for the warning, Larry... It may not be practical to do the
FallingWater side trip... it is quite a house, though isn't it?
BB
On Jan 13, 7:13 pm, Larry Powers wrote:
> Sounds like a great ride. I will warn people that the climb from Ohio Pyle
> park to Falling Water is about 3 miles
I rode the C&O / GAP from DC to McKeesport with my family this past summer
(2011). It was a great ride. The C&O is rough and muddy in spots, but the
GAP has a very nice crushed-stone surface.
I got on some mailing lists (paper, not email) connected with these trails.
From these, my understan
Yes, they could virtually create a new niche in the cyclo-tourism
industry... Many of us live close enough to some type of mass-transit
hub, where imagine simply rolling on your bike and gear, and getting
plugged into the national train network. Think of how many people
might leave their cars behi
It seems like it could really be a slick marketing move by Amtrak to jump
headlong into "We're the Cyclists Best Friend". If Amtrak had roll-on
service everywhere and anywhere, I'd be substantially more likely to do a
tour that isn't out my front door, or do out-of-state brevets.
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I was wondering if the roll-on service ever happened... I remember that
being an issue, but boxing the tandem wasn't *too *bad. We used the Amtrak
stations in PGH and WAS to box our bikes. The only extra tool I needed was
a pedal wrench.
When that roll-on service ever starts, it'll only make th
Kevin:
It's funny you mention this... Amtrak has been promising (and is so
far a year late in providing) roll-on/roll-off service on the Capitol
Limited train that serves the region. Despite numerous letters and
pressure on Amtrak, they're still supposedly working on it but will no
longer commit
Wow! Can't wait.
On Jan 13, 12:18 am, Montclair BobbyB
wrote:
> More Scenes from the GAP trail:
>
> - Big Savage Tunnel -http://www.wqed.org/ondemand/onq.php?cat=6&id=18
> - High Bridge over Yough Gorge / Ohiopyle PA
> -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeaqI0wgp-Q&feature=related
> - Salisbury Vi
More Scenes from the GAP trail:
- Big Savage Tunnel - http://www.wqed.org/ondemand/onq.php?cat=6&id=18
- High Bridge over Yough Gorge / Ohiopyle PA -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeaqI0wgp-Q&feature=related
- Salisbury Viaduct - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpC9fHOIgjk&feature=related
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