- As soon as possible, a verbal commitment to attend (and I may request a deposit for the shuttle and lodging (if I book the Paddlers Guest House). Sam Allingham and Tom Allingham are in; one additional rider is a distinct possibility.
- A lodging preference, either: A. I would like to stay with the masses in the Paddlers Lane Guest House (if avail), and although I am guaranteed a bed, it may not be a queen bed, we'll draw straws... or B. I would like to make my own lodging arrangements. Option A preferable for us. - A starting point; Cumberland, MD (62 miles to Confluence on Day 1, approx the first 25 miles are gradual uphill) vs Frostburg, MD We'd prefer Cumberland. (47 miles to Confluence on Day 1, approx the first 10 miles are gradual uphill). And for those preferring Frostburg, do you need to A. Park in Frostburg or B. Park in Cumberland and ride to Frostburg ahead of the Rally. - A (Yes/No) vote on a Fallingwater tour - Assuming we shuttle via bus, and take a Noon tour... Figure 1-2 hours total, and will cost approx $20 per person. We'd love to do the Fallingwater side trip -----Original Message----- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:58 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012 Shuttle Update: Good news... Wilderness Voyageurs (WV) provided me with what I consider a very reasonable rate for 2 vans (to shuttle approx 25 passengers plus bikes and gear). They have a large rack on top of one van, and a box trailer for the balance of the bikes and gear. The price quote is $415, which translates to roughly $17 per person (if we have 25), or $28 per person (if we have 15), etc... you get the idea. We pay for the vans and trailer, regardless of the number of people. Either way I think that's a very reasonable price (compared to other quotes for large buses). I would like to propose leaving our cars in Cumberland (or optionally Frostburg) and getting shuttled back on Sunday (I will explain why in a moment). WV is located in Ohiopyle. PA just off the trail. As we pass through Ohiopyle on Sunday (Apr 22), we CAN opt to use WV to shuttle us up to Fallingwater, IF folks would like to take a tour. The cost would be $25 per van (from WV HQ), which adds only $2 per person. I have sent in an inquiry to the Fallingwater people requesting a group tour rate (normally $22 individually). We'll see if they can accommodate a group of 25 for the Noon time slot; THEN it's up to us to decide whether we'd like to include this tour or not. Another option would be to have a nice, relaxing lunch in Ohiopyle. I'd like your thoughts, please. Next up will be a decision on lodging and shuttle options. The WV folks made a pretty good case for leaving our cars in Cumberland MD, citing better parking options, and actually by leaving cars in Cumberland, another advantage would be to allow late arrivals on Friday night (or even Saturday morning), by not having to pre-shuttle at a predetermined time. Moreover, we can check in with WV at Ohiopyle on Sunday, and provide a pretty accurate time estimate for when we'll need pickup in Connellsville, which is 17 miles down river. The disadvantage to this is that it tacks on additional time and distance for our friends coming from the North. But Sunday will be a shorter day, and I'd anticipate arriving in Connellsville around 3, putting us back in Cumberland by around 5 PM. For those who would prefer to start in Frostburg (which is 16 miles up trail from Cumberland), this would give you a later start on Sat AM (while you wait for the rally to catch up) and it would spare you 16 miles of additional climbing (albeit at a gradual 1% grade or less). I'm sure we can convince the WV crew to drop people in Frostburg on the way back into Cumberland on Sunday, but they may tack on a small surcharge. Another option for those wishing to start from Frostburg on Saturday would be to arrive in Cumberland during the day on Friday, leaving your car in Cumberland, then riding 16 miles to Frostburg "up the climb" to a hotel in Frostburg... then you can "sleep in" on Sat while the rest of us huff and puff our way up to meet you. Finally, for lodging options in Confluence, I would strongly recommend reserving the Paddlers Lane Retreat guest house, which can accommodate at least a dozen, and costs about $425 a night (which is a bargain if we fill it). Here's a link to their site - http://www.paddlerslane.com/id9.html. There are other B&B accommodations that folks can make on their own, with prices and quality of accommodations varying; Here's the link to Google maps that lists and shows where these lodging choices are: http://tinyurl.com/6wj6bgq You can decide. SO WHAT I AM ASKING FROM THOSE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING RIV RALLY EAST 2012 INCLUDES: - As soon as possible, a verbal commitment to attend (and I may request a deposit for the shuttle and lodging (if I book the Paddlers Guest House). - A lodging preference, either: A. I would like to stay with the masses in the Paddlers Lane Guest House (if avail), and although I am guaranteed a bed, it may not be a queen bed, we'll draw straws... or B. I would like to make my own lodging arrangements. - Preferred starting point; Cumberland, MD (62 miles to Confluence on Day 1, approx the first 25 miles are gradual uphill) vs Frostburg, MD (47 miles to Confluence on Day 1, approx the first 10 miles are gradual uphill). And for those preferring Frostburg, do you need to A. Park in Frostburg or B. Park in Cumberland and ride to Frostburg ahead of the Rally. - A (Yes/No) vote on a Fallingwater tour - Assuming we shuttle via bus, and take a Noon tour... Figure 1-2 hours total, and will cost approx $20 per person. Thanks, this information will greatly help me plan the logistics. Later this evening I will provide a list of available hotel choices for Cumberland and Frostburg, which folks can opt to stay at Friday evening, or choose a hotel outside of the area, your choice, and you can make those arrangements on your own. If you have any questions, feel free to call me on my cell (908) 303-6887 or email me at montclairbob...@gmail.com Thanks, BB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. 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