Could you please post the itinerary for this tirp?  I have tried to piece it 
together by looking through the messages but have not been able to do so.  I 
have been planning a DC to Pittsburgh trip on the trails and if I could plan it 
to overlap with the rally that would be fun.

Thanks.

Larry Powers 

 

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> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:05:59 -0800
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
> From: montclairbob...@gmail.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> 
> The Paddlers Lane Guest House has 3 queen beds, 8 singles, a sofabed
> and a sofa, so it will (arguably) sleep 12 comfortably, or 13 with one
> on the sofa. Below is the list of the first 13 responses (Rusty, I'm
> trying to keep your group together, I'm happy to take the couch)... we
> can shift people around if they'd rather move to a B&B, but in general
> any additional folks will need to reserve with one of the several
> other B&Bs and Inns available in Confluence. Apologies, you should
> have no problem finding a suitable place.  If you have any unconfirmed
> friends joining us later and you need to opt out for a different B&B,
> please let me know.  And there's camping available at Paddlers Lane
> for about $7 per person.
> 
> Riv Rallyer                      Paddler's Lane        Shuttle
> Falling Water Tour      Deposit Needed
> 
> Bob Birmingham                     Y
> Y                         Y                          $75
> Tom Allingham                       Y
> Y                         Y                          $75
> Hank Allingham                      Y
> Y                         Y                          $75
> Sam Allingham                       Y
> Y                         Y                          $75
> Steve Palincsar                      Y
> Y                         Y                          $75
> Norm Rosenbloom                  Y
> Y                         Y                          $75
> Bruce Oppenheim                   Y
> Y                         Y                          $75
> John Philip                             Y
> N                         Y                          $55
> Andy Philip                             Y
> Y                         Y                          $75
> Tom Nezovich                        Y
> N                         Y                          $55
> Rusty Click                            Y
> N                         N                          $75
> Rusty Guest 1                        Y
> N                         N                          $50
> Rusty Guest 2                        Y
> N                         N                          $75
> Mark Irwin                              N
> Y                         Y                          $25
> 
> Total Confirmed                     13
> 9                         11
> 
> Any others who care to join us, please confirm when you can.
> 
> Would you kindly drop me a check in the mail at your convenience.
> Thanks!
> 
> Bobby Birmingham
> 94 Matthews Farm Road
> Belle Mead, NJ 08502
> 
> Peace,
> BB
> 
> 
> On Feb 7, 11:58 am, Montclair BobbyB <montclairbob...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks, Marc.
> >
> > We're just about at capacity at the Paddler's Lane, but there are
> > other B&Bs in town that hopefully will be suitable (see my previous
> > post with links).
> > Something else to consider:  CAMPING (by the way) IS an option at
> > Paddler's Lane, if any of you are so inclined.  It's inexpensive, they
> > have open lawn to pitch tents, use of the house facilities, and
> > they've built a brand new bath house that they are very proud of (with
> > nice showers and toilets).  If the weather cooperates, this could be a
> > nice option.
> >
> > We also are approaching capacity on our first shuttle van (we're at
> > 10, with a capacity of 12).  Some riders won't need shuttle service,
> > and instead will be doing the extended out-and-back.  But before I
> > commit to a second van, we will need to have at least another 6 riders
> > (for it to be cost-effective).  We'll find a way to accommodate
> > everyones' lodging and shuttle needs.
> >
> > I've also booked a van for the Falling Water Tour.  That will last
> > approx 2 hours.  Those who prefer to opt out of the tour, of course
> > you'll be free to spend the time in Ohiopyle (or to just continue on
> > to Connellsville).
> >
> > So if you're considering joining us forRivRallyEast, PLEASE try to
> > firm up your plans and let me know ASAP.
> >
> > For those who have committed so far, thank you; I'll send out the list
> > of names that I have (this evening), and I will be asking for a
> > deposit.  Stay tuned.
> >
> > THANKS!!!!
> >
> > BB
> >
> > On Feb 6, 10:03 pm, Marc Irwin <irwin7...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I intend to be there and will stay with the masses at the Paddlers.  I
> > > have no preferencefor the starting point.  You know the terrain better
> > > than I.  I have no preference about the falling waters ( I've seen a
> > > lot of FLW, but one more won't hurt either.).  Let me know the what
> > > when and where of the deposits and I'll make the rest of my plans.
> >
> > > Marc
> >
> > > On Jan 26, 10:27 am, "Allingham II, Thomas J"
> >
> > > <thomas.alling...@skadden.com> wrote:
> > > > - As soon as possible, a verbal commitment to attend (and I may request 
> > > > a deposit for the shuttle and lodging (if I book the Paddlers Guest 
> > > > House).  Sam Allingham and Tom Allingham are in; one additional rider 
> > > > is a distinct possibility.
> >
> > > > - A lodging preference, either:  A. I would like to stay with the 
> > > > masses in the Paddlers Lane Guest House (if avail), and although I am 
> > > > guaranteed a bed, it may not be a queen bed, we'll draw straws...  or 
> > > > B. I would like to make my own lodging arrangements.  Option A 
> > > > preferable for us.
> >
> > > > - A starting point; Cumberland, MD (62 miles to Confluence on Day 1, 
> > > > approx the first 25 miles are gradual uphill) vs Frostburg, MD  We'd 
> > > > prefer Cumberland.
> > > > (47 miles to Confluence on Day 1, approx the first 10 miles are gradual 
> > > > uphill).  And for those preferring Frostburg, do you need to A. Park in 
> > > > Frostburg or B. Park in Cumberland and ride to Frostburg ahead of 
> > > > theRally.
> >
> > > > - A (Yes/No) vote on a Fallingwater tour - Assuming we shuttle via bus, 
> > > > and take a Noon tour... Figure 1-2 hours total, and will cost approx 
> > > > $20 per person.  We'd love to do the Fallingwater side trip
> >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
> > > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:58 PM
> > > > To: RBW Owners Bunch
> > > > Subject: [RBW] Re:RivRallyEast 2012
> >
> > > > Shuttle Update:  Good news... Wilderness Voyageurs (WV) provided me 
> > > > with what I consider a very reasonable rate for 2 vans (to shuttle 
> > > > approx 25 passengers plus bikes and gear).  They have a large rack on 
> > > > top of one van, and a box trailer for the balance of the bikes and 
> > > > gear.  The price quote is $415, which translates to roughly $17 per 
> > > > person (if we have 25), or $28 per person (if we have 15), etc... you 
> > > > get the idea.  We pay for the vans and trailer, regardless of the 
> > > > number of people.  Either way I think that's a very reasonable price 
> > > > (compared to other quotes for large buses).  I would like to propose 
> > > > leaving our cars in Cumberland (or optionally Frostburg) and getting 
> > > > shuttled back on Sunday (I will explain why in a moment).
> >
> > > > WV is located in Ohiopyle. PA just off the trail.  As we pass through 
> > > > Ohiopyle on Sunday (Apr 22), we CAN opt to use WV to shuttle us up to 
> > > > Fallingwater, IF folks would like to take a tour.  The cost would be
> > > > $25 per van (from WV HQ), which adds only $2 per person.  I have sent 
> > > > in an inquiry to the Fallingwater people requesting a group tour rate 
> > > > (normally $22 individually).  We'll see if they can accommodate a group 
> > > > of 25 for the Noon time slot; THEN it's up to us to decide whether we'd 
> > > > like to include this tour or not.  Another option would be to have a 
> > > > nice, relaxing lunch in Ohiopyle.  I'd like your thoughts, please.
> >
> > > > Next up will be a decision on lodging and shuttle options.  The WV 
> > > > folks made a pretty good case for leaving our cars in Cumberland MD, 
> > > > citing better parking options, and actually by leaving cars in 
> > > > Cumberland, another advantage would be to allow late arrivals on Friday 
> > > > night (or even Saturday morning), by not having to pre-shuttle at a 
> > > > predetermined time.  Moreover, we can check in with WV at Ohiopyle on 
> > > > Sunday, and provide a pretty accurate time estimate for when we'll need 
> > > > pickup in Connellsville, which is 17 miles down river.  The 
> > > > disadvantage to this is that it tacks on additional time and distance 
> > > > for our friends coming from the North.  But Sunday will be a shorter 
> > > > day, and I'd anticipate arriving in Connellsville around 3, putting us 
> > > > back in Cumberland by around 5 PM.
> >
> > > > For those who would prefer to start in Frostburg (which is 16 miles up 
> > > > trail from Cumberland), this would give you a later start on Sat AM 
> > > > (while you wait for therallyto catch up) and it would spare you 16 
> > > > miles of additional climbing (albeit at a gradual 1% grade or less).
> > > > I'm sure we can convince the WV crew to drop people in Frostburg on the 
> > > > way back into Cumberland on Sunday, but they may tack on a small 
> > > > surcharge.  Another option for those wishing to start from Frostburg on 
> > > > Saturday would be to arrive in Cumberland during the day on Friday, 
> > > > leaving your car in Cumberland, then riding 16 miles to Frostburg "up 
> > > > the climb" to a hotel in Frostburg... then you can "sleep in" on Sat 
> > > > while the rest of us huff and puff our way up to meet you.
> >
> > > > Finally, for lodging options in Confluence, I would strongly recommend 
> > > > reserving the Paddlers Lane Retreat guest house, which can accommodate 
> > > > at least a dozen, and costs about $425 a night (which is a bargain if 
> > > > we fill it).  Here's a link to their site 
> > > > -http://www.paddlerslane.com/id9.html.
> >
> > > > There are other B&B accommodations that folks can make on their own, 
> > > > with prices and quality of accommodations varying; Here's the link to 
> > > > Google maps that lists and shows where these lodging choices 
> > > > are:http://tinyurl.com/6wj6bgq You can decide.
> >
> > > > SO WHAT I AM ASKING FROM THOSE INTERESTED IN ATTENDINGRIVRALLYEAST
> > > > 2012 INCLUDES:
> >
> > > > - As soon as possible, a verbal commitment to attend (and I may request 
> > > > a deposit for the shuttle and lodging (if I book the Paddlers Guest 
> > > > House).
> > > > - A lodging preference, either:  A. I would like to stay with the 
> > > > masses in the Paddlers Lane Guest House (if avail), and although I am 
> > > > guaranteed a bed, it may not be a queen bed, we'll draw straws...  or 
> > > > B. I would like to make my own lodging arrangements.
> > > > - Preferred starting point; Cumberland, MD (62 miles to Confluence on 
> > > > Day 1, approx the first 25 miles are gradual uphill) vs Frostburg, MD
> > > > (47 miles to Confluence on Day 1, approx the first 10 miles are gradual 
> > > > uphill).  And for those preferring Frostburg, do you need to A. Park in 
> > > > Frostburg or B. Park in Cumberland and ride to Frostburg ahead of 
> > > > theRally.
> > > > - A (Yes/No) vote on a Fallingwater tour - Assuming we shuttle via bus, 
> > > > and take a Noon tour... Figure 1-2 hours total, and will cost approx 
> > > > $20 per person.
> >
> > > > Thanks, this information will greatly help me plan the logistics.
> > > > Later this evening I will provide a list of available hotel choices for 
> > > > Cumberland and Frostburg, which folks can opt to stay at Friday 
> > > > evening, or choose a hotel outside of the area, your choice, and you 
> > > > can make those arrangements on your own.
> >
> > > > If you have any questions, feel free to call me on my cell (908)
> > > > 303-6887 or email me at montclairbob...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > BB
> >
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