That climb might affect bike choice, though -- probably push me away from my 
current thinking that I might do the ride on my QB (as my son Sam was, as 
well).  But we'll make it work, whatever the decision is. 

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From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 6:43 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

I'm waiting on several shuttle services to respond to my requests.
Only one has gotten back to me, and they require that we rent an entire bus... 
Unless we have 40 people it may not be practical.

One option I'm considering will be to start in Cumberland, MD, booking a hotel 
close to the Cumberland Amtrak station for Friday night (as long as I can leave 
my bike and gear in my hotel room or some other secure place).  The Capitol 
Limited runs daily from Connellsville to Cumberland (at 6:30 AM!!!).
We could drive our cars up to Connellsville early on Saturday, park them and 
hop the Capitol Limited back to Cumberland, where we would check out and ride 
to the trail.  That's a $17 solution (plus a few hours of lost sleep)... It 
also makes for a slightly later start on Saturday morning, and adds 16 miles of 
uphill from Cumberland... no big deal, right??

BB

On Jan 20, 5:16 pm, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 12:43 -0500, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote:
> > Steve:  Would Jack Brown Greens (the lighter weight version) be okay 
> > on the trail, or do I (ideally, anyway) need something fatter and 
> > sturdier?
>
> Many people think 33.33mm wide tires are plenty fat for seriously bad 
> gravel roads like those on the Deerfield Dirt Road Randonnee - which 
> is far rougher than the surface of the GAP.
>
> All "crushed limestone" is not created equal.  I was on the Greenbrier 
> Trail in West Virginia, also paved with crushed limestone, last summer 
> (finished up on Earthquake Day).  There, the top surface - maybe 1/2 
> inch or so - is loose, with a firm bottom under that.  You get up out 
> of the saddle and whoopsie! the rear end acts like it's on ball bearings.
> Nothing at all like that on the GAP.  There, at least when I was 
> there, the surface is solid all the way from top to bottom.  In other 
> words, you don't sink in much so wide floation's not so critical.
>
> On the final stretch from Frostburg to Cumberland, the steep part, we 
> saw a couple of roadies on 23mm racing tires heading up towards 
> Frostburg.

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