[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2013-02-03 Thread Michael
> > Thanks for the pics. Looked like an awesome ride. > How many miles? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@google

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2013-02-03 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Steve: Would like to plan 2 rides: April 13-14: Delaware Water Gap Adventure Loop - 2-day credit card/self-supported (on/off road), which features a scenic rural road ride up the Delaware River on Day 1, with the Day 2 return leg including a mixed hilly terrain route through High Point/Stokes

RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East

2012-05-02 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Time for Rodney King to weigh in! From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jpp Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:26 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East This is the

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2012-05-02 Thread jpp
This is the funniest reply to me, just cracks me up. I am inspired to go on the honda car forum and complain that they don't talk about toyotas enough! ps-if you spend enough time on this forum you realize that all bikes are welcomed. I have been a poster here on and off for almost 5 years an

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East

2012-05-01 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I am organizing the Midwest Riv rally, and I don't have a Riv. Toei and Singer riders, if they exist, are welcome to attend. Frankly, I think we'll have as many Surly riders as Riv riders. I don't expect much carbon, but you never know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East

2012-05-01 Thread Montclair BobbyB
OK, Ablejack.. I think you're taking this "political correctness" nonsense a bit too far. This is a Rivendell Owners Bunch Forum... If we can't proclaim our enthusiasm for Rivendell bikes on this forum, where can we??? No apologies. And BTW I love everyone, even you. Peace, Bobby On May 1, 8:1

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2012-05-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 17:14 -0700, Ablejack wrote: > I understand. I'm sure everyone had a great time and were stellar and > welcoming sportsmen. My concern was for those who may not have joined > because they ride perhaps a Toei or a Singer or whatever. I think we > are all literally on the same p

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2012-05-01 Thread Ablejack
I understand. I'm sure everyone had a great time and were stellar and welcoming sportsmen. My concern was for those who may not have joined because they ride perhaps a Toei or a Singer or whatever. I think we are all literally on the same page as far as wanting and welcoming a variety of partic

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East

2012-05-01 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Andy, I notice you've started a separate thread... I do hope it's not because you feel unwelcome on the other thread (hah!!!) BTW, maybe we also need "Retro Rally"... ride your favorite classic (older) bike. Peace, BB On Apr 28, 10:53 am, Andrew Carpenter wrote: > I was one of the "renegad

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-30 Thread Steven Frederick
I believe the "Riv Rally," refers to this list, the Riv list, since it was organized for and by list members. I can't imagine anyone being turned away for lack of a particular brand of bike... On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Ablejack wrote: > I guess I simply prefer a more egalitarian theme fo

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-30 Thread Peter Pesce
Clearly "Riv" is an attitude as much as a brand. That is all that you are "required" to bring to a Riv ride! Great job Bobby (and all the other riv-ish ride planners elsewhere)! -Pete On Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:36:50 PM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > > Thanks, it's all good. As long as I co

RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-30 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:37 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle! Thanks, it's all good. As long as I continue to be involved, Riv Rally will always be Riv Rally (I promise), and it will remain

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2012-04-30 Thread ascpgh
Also for the commonality which can come from mutual appreciation of cycling that Rivendell promotes among individuals. > I'm proud to be a Rivendell Owner, not just for owning and riding one > of their extraordinary bicycles, but also for embracing the Rivendell > philosophy of supporting all tha

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-29 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Thanks, it's all good. As long as I continue to be involved, Riv Rally will always be Riv Rally (I promise), and it will remain open TO ALL who embrace the Riv philosophy, REGARDLESS of whether you own a Riv or some other bike. In fact, at the next rally I plan to ride either my '85 Stumpy, my 86

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2012-04-29 Thread Marc Irwin
I had a great time, thought Bobby did an amazing job putting this together, > will be at the next one and don't see anything pretentious or exclusive > about wanting to meet like minded people to hang out for a weekend! Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

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2012-04-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2012-04-28 at 13:40 -0700, Philip Williamson wrote: > I think the Riv Rally is a fantastic idea, and I'm amazed at Bobby's ability > to bring an idea like that to fruition. I associate it in my mind with > classic auto rallies, like the Austin Healey rally that came through my town > a f

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-28 Thread Philip Williamson
I think the Riv Rally is a fantastic idea, and I'm amazed at Bobby's ability to bring an idea like that to fruition. I associate it in my mind with classic auto rallies, like the Austin Healey rally that came through my town a few years ago, or the dozens of MGs I saw on my drive down the East s

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2012-04-28 Thread Rusty
Bobby, Thanks again for putting this Riv Rally East ver. 2012 together. I'm glad the weather held off, and that you all got to see one of my favorite sections of the GAP. Ed and I were sorry to have missed this years ride, but have read the posts and viewed the great pics that have been post

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2012-04-28 Thread Brian Campbell
When is the next Rally in the east? I am just outside Philadelphia and missed this ride. I just joined the list about a month ago. > > -- > *From:* Minh > *Sent:* Sat Apr 28 09:41:33 CDT 2012 > *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > *Subject:*

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2012-04-28 Thread Bruce Herbitter
CDT 2012 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle! I will give you the benefit of the doubt that there was nothing implied, but i think you're reading into the title too much. This is a Rivendell Owners Group, but the

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2012-04-28 Thread ascpgh
I can't think of anything more "pretentious" than a group of riders dressed and outfitted alike for a club ride on a Tuesday evening; carbon fiber this or that, twelve spoke wheels, alien-looking cranksets, garish graphics and matching team kit Lycra. Funny how a make developed from utility and th

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-28 Thread Minh
I will give you the benefit of the doubt that there was nothing implied, but i think you're reading into the title too much. This is a Rivendell Owners Group, but there is no requirement that you have to own or ride a Rivendell. In the same way it was a Riv Rally because we organized it throu

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 22:45 -0700, Ablejack wrote: > I guess I simply prefer a more egalitarian theme for a ride. Inclusive > rather than exclusive that's all. We were indeed inclusive. Last year there were in addition to several Rivendells, a Trek and a Gunnar. This year in addition to several

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-27 Thread Ablejack
I guess I simply prefer a more egalitarian theme for a ride. Inclusive rather than exclusive that's all. I don't think anything negative about the folks and certainly did not mean to insinuate that. There are about ten Riv owners in my club and sometimes it's all Rivs on a ride. No problem, ri

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2012-04-27 Thread Michael Hechmer
I think it's great having Riv Rally East. Unfortunately, I already have three weekends committed in the late March & early April time frame, so does my wife. We have been unable to attend either year. It would be easier if this event were a little later, like the first weekend in May, or ma

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-27 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 10:17 -0700, Ablejack wrote: > Beautiful photos and bikes along the best trail I've ever > ridden. Also I really hate the idea of a Riv Rally. I'm sorry you feel that way. There are some very nice folks here, and it has been a great pleasure to meet them in

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2012-04-27 Thread RJM
I like to think of them as a riv-esque rally. . On Friday, April 27, 2012 12:17:56 PM UTC-5, Ablejack wrote: > Beautiful photos and bikes along the best trail I've ever ridden. Also I >> really hate the idea of a Riv Rally. > > Good thing there was a Kogswell and Surly (both fine bikes) with yo

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-27 Thread Ablejack
> > Beautiful photos and bikes along the best trail I've ever ridden. Also I > really hate the idea of a Riv Rally. Good thing there was a Kogswell and Surly (both fine bikes) with you to dilute the pretension. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

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2012-04-26 Thread AndyBikeman
Hope this link works for my FlickR photo page. http://www.flickr.com/photos/79434836@N04/ On Apr 24, 5:15 pm, Thomas Nezovich wrote: > John Philip provides this link that shows some snow shots:     > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/sets/72157629525386656/ > On Apr 24, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Thoma

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2012-04-26 Thread Montclair BobbyB
t; [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ascpgh > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:44 AM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle! > > I think I caught something after being out in all the cold and in the > w

RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-26 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Resistance is futile. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ascpgh Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:44 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle! I think

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 06:21 -0700, ascpgh wrote: > Steve: > > I am a Riv-aholic. Admitting that one cannot control one's addiction or compulsion is the First Step, right? > At first it was a numbered Bridgestone here and there, then there was > a Rambouillet... Now the issues swirl; wide range

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-26 Thread ascpgh
Steve: I am a Riv-aholic. At first it was a numbered Bridgestone here and there, then there was a Rambouillet... Now the issues swirl; wide range double 110 BCD vs triple, generator hubs/logs vs battery units, rack/bag combos, bars, etc. I'm going to have to make some steady progress on the hou

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 04:44 -0700, ascpgh wrote: > I think I caught something after being out in all the cold and in the > wilderness last weekend. > > I'm feeling like I need more clearance for bigger tires, more braze- > ons, a kick stand plate, and a generator hub/light set up. The > symptoms o

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-26 Thread ascpgh
I think I caught something after being out in all the cold and in the wilderness last weekend. I'm feeling like I need more clearance for bigger tires, more braze- ons, a kick stand plate, and a generator hub/light set up. The symptoms of my illness seems to have come back after ten years remissio

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2012-04-25 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Posted (thanks to John Philip)... On Apr 25, 5:23 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > Anyone find the photo of us arriving at Confluence the bike shop owner > took and said would be posted on Facebook? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" gro

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2012-04-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
Anyone find the photo of us arriving at Confluence the bike shop owner took and said would be posted on Facebook? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To un

RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East and SimpleOne

2012-04-25 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
: Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East and SimpleOne Thanks, I've seen these around recently, and think they're an elegant solution to an aggravating issue. On Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:36:51 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: It's a Kashimax frame protector. http://www.benscycle.net/inde

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2012-04-25 Thread Joe Bernard
one on the downtube to protect a rebuilt MB-2 from damage from > an over-rotated Paul Flatbed. Can't find a pic. > > -- > *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe Bernard > *Sent

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2012-04-25 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
f Joe Bernard Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:09 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East and SimpleOne What is protecting the toptube? Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:41:30 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: After the entirely justified derision I rece

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2012-04-24 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Andy, you are most valiant... Glad you made it before the snow. Bobby On Apr 24, 9:13 pm, ascpgh wrote: > Reinterations for all praise deserved for the whole event, > surroundings, collected riders & bicycles, and particularly Bobby for > the rare January motivation to get the wheels rolling on

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2012-04-24 Thread Joe Bernard
What is protecting the toptube? Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:41:30 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: > After the entirely justified derision I received over bar > height/rotation/saddle tilt issues after posting some interim pics of my > SimpleOne a few weeks back, I thought I'

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-24 Thread ascpgh
Reinterations for all praise deserved for the whole event, surroundings, collected riders & bicycles, and particularly Bobby for the rare January motivation to get the wheels rolling on this great weekend. Initial crop of untagged photos: https://picasaweb.google.com/asc.pgh/RivRallyEast2012?auth

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2012-04-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 16:52 -0700, AndyBikeman wrote: > Thanks to Bobby and all the rest of the guys for making me (a borrowed > LHTrucker rider) feel welcome. I had a wonderful time was so glad to > be bitten by the Riv-Bug. Also thanks to all of the posters with the > great photos. Nice collect

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2012-04-24 Thread Marc Irwin
I didn't quite escape! I woke up in my tent at the Ohiopyle campground under a pile of snow on Monday morning, Oh well, I'm from Michigan, NBD. I posted a few picks and a recount here on my blog. Thanks for putting this

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-24 Thread AndyBikeman
Thanks to Bobby and all the rest of the guys for making me (a borrowed LHTrucker rider) feel welcome. I had a wonderful time was so glad to be bitten by the Riv-Bug. Also thanks to all of the posters with the great photos. Nice panoramas Steve! I enjoyed meeting and riding with you all. I look forw

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2012-04-24 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Tom: I have to point out, nice bar height, and perfect tilt on that saddle!! Riding it provided the real proof... it's extremely comfortable. And considering you were prepping 3 bikes for this ride, I'd say your mechanical reliability index still remains high, despite your "quick- release" cranks

RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-24 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Those three are (in Hank terms) "beasts"! -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:24 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculous

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-24 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Done. Speaking of the snow, John Philip sent me an email at 1:30 AM this morning... he had just arrived home in Syracuse after a long and grueling day. When he and Tom Nezovich awoke in Rockwood, there was some 6+ inches of wet, heavy snow on the ground. They slogged through up to a foot of snow

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 19:37 -0700, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote: > Having lived in Ohiopyle when I was a paddler not a peddler I have to > ask, how are the milkshakes at Falls Market? Are they still the best > shakes in the East? None of us had milkshakes. Many of us got hoagies there, but we were

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!

2012-04-23 Thread Rambouilleting Utahn
Having lived in Ohiopyle when I was a paddler not a peddler I have to ask, how are the milkshakes at Falls Market? Are they still the best shakes in the East? All those beautiful bikes look really good overlooking the falls. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G

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2012-04-23 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
What a great time! It must have taken a lot of time and commitment from everyone, but sure payed off! On Monday, April 23, 2012 7:21:12 AM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > > Boy, somebody up there must like us... Somehow we managed to slip > through this weekend virtually untouched by this Nor'

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2012-04-23 Thread Jim
Wow...fantastic set of photos. As a native W. Pa guy, i really enjoyed seeing the "home" scenery, and the pictures of Fallingwater. Y'all looked like you were having a great time, very inspirational, can't wait to get back on the bike. Jim in Boulder On Monday, April 23, 2012 8:21:12 AM UTC-

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East - Full speed ahead!!!

2012-04-18 Thread Montclair BobbyB
OK, here's the Weather Underground forecast that we should plan around (which be forewarned, will vary from hot to cold!!!): For Cumberland MD, Saturday: Mostly cloudy in the morning, then partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain. Depending on which weather forecast you believe, the

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East - Full speed ahead!!!

2012-04-16 Thread Minh
Ha! I've got on the full fenders + mudflaps, hopefully that's enough to ward off the rain. Also packing an extra sweater! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d

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2012-04-16 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Thanks, Andy. Checked the forecast today, and it seems to be improving slightly from the (dire) forecast of 2 days ago... By Wed we should have a pretty good idea what we'll be facing, but it's good to know the riding surface (most important) should handle any rain we might get. Bobby On Apr 16,

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East - Full speed ahead!!!

2012-04-16 Thread ascpgh
Whoops, forgot to add the drastic difference between the quality of the GAP surface versus the C&O Canal toe path. The quality of the crushed limestone bed of the GAP is so much better than the western end of the C & O, it is able to drain the heaviest steady downpour and presents a stable riding s

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2012-04-16 Thread ascpgh
Feet: I'm adding my neoprene booties if the prediction gets really damp. Too bulky to haul around daily, and a bit of a hassle to put on for a sprinkle. Hands: A wad of nitrile exam gloves, handy both for doing repairs in the absence of soap & water and as a final barrier to wetness, even in GoreTe

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2012-04-15 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Great ideas, Steve... I also have a helmet cover, but I wonder how well it breaths... I like the wool cap suggestion much better. BB On Apr 15, 4:42 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > I have a pair of yellow safety glasses I use in the rain.  The yellow > color makes a bleak, gray day a lot brighter.

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East - Full speed ahead!!!

2012-04-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
If you use rose-colored glasses, you are guaranteed to have a happy day! On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > I have a pair of yellow safety glasses I use in the rain.  The yellow > color makes a bleak, gray day a lot brighter. > > Also, a wool cycling cap under your helmet h

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East - Full speed ahead!!!

2012-04-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
I have a pair of yellow safety glasses I use in the rain. The yellow color makes a bleak, gray day a lot brighter. Also, a wool cycling cap under your helmet helps a lot on a rainy day. On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 12:49 -0700, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Gearing for the worst, hoping for a break... > I

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East - Full speed ahead!!!

2012-04-15 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Gearing for the worst, hoping for a break... I'm doing a daily rain dance... BRING IT, I say. (Hopefully wishing for rain will have a reverse effect)... Regardless I've got my full-size Cascadia fenders mounted, and my rainproof saddle cover (I'll also add a little more Proofide, especially to the

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012: T-minus 29 days and counting

2012-03-24 Thread Minh
Hi all, For the folks coming from Virginia, if there is a possiblity of a car-pool please let me know. I can't offer a vehicle as my car only carries one bike but would be happy to carpool and split the gas costs. I'm flexible for Friday and would prefer to stay in Frostburg friday nite, but

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-02-08 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I hope you will be able to join after all, Steve, but if not this year, this rally, maybe next year or another Riv Rally. Let's hope there will be plenty. Fallingwater is not simply a house. It's an extraordinary place... a place that I could spend every day enjoying, let alone a mere hour- long

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2012-02-08 Thread islaysteve
It’s increasingly unlikely that I will be able to ride this one, but I wanted to put in my 2 cents about Fallingwater for anyone who’s considering (or not considering) the side trip: Do it. You may have seen other Wright houses and buildings, or Wright and architecture may not be on your r

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2012-02-08 Thread Montclair BobbyB
een planning a DC to Pittsburgh trip on the trails and if I could plan > it to overlap with the rally that would be fun. > > Thanks. > > Larry Powers > > Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 7 Fe

RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-02-08 Thread Larry Powers
Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:05:59 -0800 > Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012 > From: montclairbob...@gmail.com > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > The Paddlers Lane Guest House has 3 queen

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-02-07 Thread Montclair BobbyB
The Paddlers Lane Guest House has 3 queen beds, 8 singles, a sofabed and a sofa, so it will (arguably) sleep 12 comfortably, or 13 with one on the sofa. Below is the list of the first 13 responses (Rusty, I'm trying to keep your group together, I'm happy to take the couch)... we can shift people ar

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2012-02-07 Thread Montclair BobbyB
; person.  We'd love to do the Fallingwater side trip > > > -Original Message- > > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB > > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:58 PM > > To: RBW

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2012-02-07 Thread Marc Irwin
.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:58 PM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012 > > Shuttle Update:  Good news... Wilderness Voyageurs (WV) provided me with what > I consider a very reasonable rate for 2 vans (to shut

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-02-04 Thread Thomas Nezovich
Bobby, This is TOM NEZOVICH, RBW'er from Cleveland. I would like to be included in this year's Riv Rally East I could start in Cumberland or Frostburg. I will be starting from Cumberland in either case. I would like to be included in the Paddlers Lane Retreat guest house accommodation.

RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-26 Thread Sean Whelan
Side Note: We (group of 5 cyclists) stayed in the Paddler's Lane guest house in 2006. It was great. Highly Recommended. Thanks, Sean --- On Thu, 1/26/12, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: From: Allingham II, Thomas J Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012 To: "'r

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-26 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Minh: The GAP Trail web site has lots of great info... check it out - http://www.atatrail.org/ The mileage chart on the site indicates it's a total of 62 miles on Day 1 from Cumberland to Confluence, or 47 miles from Frostburg to Confluence. The elevation chart indicates from Cumberland to the C

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-26 Thread Minh
Bobby, With the updates, are the mileage estimates still valid for day 1 and day 2? I'm just trying to plan and have a think about whether i can handle the distance, especially coming out of winter hibernation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW O

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2012-01-26 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Another committed: 3 Allinghams total -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:58 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012 Shuttle Update

RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-26 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
om [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:58 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012 Shuttle Update: Good news... Wilderness Voyageurs (WV) provided me with what I consider a very reasonable rate for 2 v

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-25 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Additional Info: Lodging In Cumberland, MD http://www.atatrail.org/tmi/get_amenities_city.cfm?PassCity=Cumberland&Map=1 In Frostburg, MD http://www.atatrail.org/tmi/get_amenities_city.cfm?PassCity=Frostburg&Map=1 http://www.atatrail.org/docs/frostburgbrochure.pdf In Confluence, PA http://www.at

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-25 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Shuttle Update: Good news... Wilderness Voyageurs (WV) provided me with what I consider a very reasonable rate for 2 vans (to shuttle approx 25 passengers plus bikes and gear). They have a large rack on top of one van, and a box trailer for the balance of the bikes and gear. The price quote is $

RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-23 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
o:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 6:43 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012 I'm waiting on several shuttle services to respond to my requests. Only one has gotten back to me, and they require that we rent an

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East - Falling Water & train transportation

2012-01-21 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Andy: Thanks, I contacted Wilderness Voyageurs, and they may be able to accommodate us!!! I'll get confirmation from them later in the week. Appreciate the referral. Bobby On Jan 21, 5:15 am, ascpgh wrote: > As plans for RRE12 firms up I can offer that the outfitters in > Ohiopyle, PA,  who pr

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East - Falling Water & train transportation

2012-01-21 Thread ascpgh
As plans for RRE12 firms up I can offer that the outfitters in Ohiopyle, PA, who predominantly focus on whitewater rafting, are increasingly servicing the needs of through-riders on the GAP/C&O and their advantageous trailside location and offer pretty comprehensive shuttling. Their 15 pax vans

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-21 Thread Bruce Oppenheim
Bobby, Logistics is an issue. It's still early for me and I've only had my first cup of coffee My friend and I camped the entire route except one nasty rainy night where we found a bunk house and spent the night. Nice primitive campgrounds along the way. Wonder if we can work this into a scen

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-21 Thread islaysteve
Bobby I was discussing the logistics with my wife this morning and she came up with a suggestion (sorry if you've already thought of this): What about renting a one-way U-haul truck from Connellville to Frostburg or Cumberland? It would only require one of the riders (or two) to drive it back

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-21 Thread islaysteve
Bobby, Yes, so many options. Thanks again for all the time and organizing you're putting into this ride. I too was thinking about options and wondering if I could do something along the lines of your third choice (people doing the shuttle with a combination of vehicles). Anyway, I'm hoping fo

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-20 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Steve: That's the fallback option... The first choice would be for Amtrak to get their sh** together and allow roll-on/roll-off for bikes (but I won't hold my breath) Second choice would be to get a shuttle service to transport people and bikes between the finish and the start (which I'm working o

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-20 Thread islaysteve
The early hour and drive I could do, extra uphill maybe. But I need to get in a bit of shape before then. I know that sounds sorry. Would prefer another solution if possible. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-20 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I'm waiting on several shuttle services to respond to my requests. Only one has gotten back to me, and they require that we rent an entire bus... Unless we have 40 people it may not be practical. One option I'm considering will be to start in Cumberland, MD, booking a hotel close to the Cumberland

RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 12:43 -0500, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: > Steve: Would Jack Brown Greens (the lighter weight version) be okay > on the trail, or do I (ideally, anyway) need something fatter and > sturdier? Many people think 33.33mm wide tires are plenty fat for seriously bad gravel roa

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 12:03 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > The JB Greens work great on gravel and crushed limestone of the type > Steve P described. No promises that you won't get a flat or six, but I > never flatted them riding around Minneapolis several hundred miles > last summer..

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-20 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
The JB Greens work great on gravel and crushed limestone of the type Steve P described. No promises that you won't get a flat or six, but I never flatted them riding around Minneapolis several hundred miles last summer...until I went out to Oregon and flatted numerous times on thorns. -- You r

RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-20 Thread Sean Whelan
s, Sean --- On Fri, 1/20/12, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: > From: Allingham II, Thomas J > Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012 > To: "'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com'" > Date: Friday, January 20, 2012, 12:43 PM > Steve:  Would Jack Brown Greens >

RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East - Falling Water & train transportation

2012-01-20 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
m [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joan Oppel Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 9:44 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East - Falling Water & train transportation I rode the GAP & C&O a couple of years ago - Pittsburgh to

RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-20 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
: Sunday, January 15, 2012 6:05 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012 On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 14:54 -0800, islaysteve wrote: > Since I took the time to explore the links that Bobby provided, I've > answered most of my questions: It looks like

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-19 Thread islaysteve
Bobby, thanks again for your efforts. I will be flexible for the situation. Deposit is definitely a given. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/r

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-19 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Steve: The success of this ride will depend on a solution for shuttling riders (since it is a point-to-point ride). I've got inquiries out to half a dozen shuttle services; between them we should be able to find a solution. Depending on their capability, it may require shuttling in advance or at

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-19 Thread islaysteve
Bobby, I've been looking around on the GAP website and i went to some of the shuttle sites listed. I see that there are limited choices. For your advance planning purposes, please put me down for the trip, and I will need a shuttle for my bike and myself from Connellsville back to Frostburg.

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-19 Thread Rusty
I'm putting this on the calendar now! New to Riv, and looking forward to a local(I'm from Pittsburgh), ride. I'll follow this link for updates. Anyone from the Pittsburgh area planning to join? We can head down together. Rusty On Jan 12, 11:24 pm, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > OK, it's a new ye

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-17 Thread Zack
Anyone driving down from New England? I am in VT, would love to do this, but would probably want to split the costs/hassle of driving to MD with someone. Message me offline if you want to figure something out! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-17 Thread Gary
Sounds like fun. It's on my calendar, and hopefully the work schedule will be cooperative! gary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/90

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

2012-01-17 Thread Marc Irwin
I'm.psych'd, it's on my calendar. Marc On Jan 12, 10:24 pm, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > OK, it's a new year, and I'm starting to get excited about Riv Rally > East 2012.  Here's the quick skinny on this year's plan (so far): > > This year I'm planning the 2-day Rally to ride along the Great > Alle

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