On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 4:20 AM, Marco Ippolito wrote:
>File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nltk/classify/megam.py",
> line 167, in call_megam
> p = subprocess.Popen(cmd, stdout=subprocess.PIPE)
>File "/usr/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 679, ininit
> errread, errwri
On Mon, 06 Jan 2014 16:32:01 -0500, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On 1/6/14 12:50 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> Ned Batchelder wrote:
>>
>>> You are still talking about whether Armin is right, and whether he
>>> writes well, about flaws in his statistics, etc. I'm talking about
>>> the fact that an org
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> I am pleased to see that the bug-fix releases get downloaded so heavily.
That's a tricky one, though. It's impossible to say how many 3.3.1
downloads were upgrading from 3.3.0, and how many were simply "I want
Python, give me the latest". But e
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
> Doing a flag like that that enables a backwards incompatible change
> does in fact address that issue you were worried about originally, so
> that's something. And feature-by-feature moves are, like the OP said,
> still lower cost than a wh
On 2014-01-07 02:29, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 06Jan2014 18:56, Skip Montanaro wrote:
[...]
Let's say I have a dead simple GUI with two buttons labeled, "Do A" and "Do
B". Each corresponds to executing a particular activity, A or B, which take
some non-zero amount of time to complete (as percei
>From the couple responses I've seen, I must have not made myself
clear. Let's skip specific hypothetical tasks. Using coroutines,
futures, or other programming paradigms that have been introduced in
recent versions of Python 3.x, can traditionally event-driven code be
written in a more linear mann
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> class Foo(str):
> def __add__(self, other):
> if isinstance(other, unicode): return self + other.encode("cp500")
> return str.__add__(self, other)
>
> What happens if you have the __future__ directive disabling
> autoencod
On 07Jan2014 13:29, I wrote:
> def do_A():
> with lock_B():
> with lock_A():
> _do_A()
Um, of course there would be a cancel_B() up front above, like this:
def do_A():
cancel_B()
with lock_B():
with lock_A():
_do_A()
I'm with MRAB: you don't really nee
On 1/6/2014 6:24 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Terry Reedy udel.edu> writes:
On 1/6/2014 11:29 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
People don't use? According to available figures, there are more
downloads of
Python 3 than downloads of Python 2 (W
On 06Jan2014 18:56, Skip Montanaro wrote:
[...]
> Let's say I have a dead simple GUI with two buttons labeled, "Do A" and "Do
> B". Each corresponds to executing a particular activity, A or B, which take
> some non-zero amount of time to complete (as perceived by the user) or
> cancel (as perceive
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Rhodri James wrote:
> Sorry, I assumed we were talking about threads in general. Py2 vs Py3
> threads that aren't interminable trolling don't show up often enough to
> register for me; the current set is something of an exception.
Sure. In that case, I would agree
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
> The other alternative is having + (etc.) do something different
> depending on what module it's in. It's not hard to do: add a condition
> to all places where Python automatically converts, and check the call
> stack to see what module you'
On 1/6/2014 5:25 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
I do respect you, and all the core developers. As I've said elsewhere
in the thread, I greatly appreciate everything you do. I dedicate a
great deal of time and energy to the Python community, primarily because
of the amazing product that you have all
On 2014-01-07 00:56, Skip Montanaro wrote:
I've been programming for a long while in an event&callback-driven
world. While I am comfortable enough with the mechanisms available
(almost 100% of what I do is in a PyGTK world with its signal
mechanism), it's never been all that satisfying, breaking
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 01:35:54 -, Chris Angelico
wrote:
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Rhodri James
wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jan 2014 21:17:06 -, Gene Heskett
wrote:
On Monday 06 January 2014 16:16:13 Terry Reedy did opine:
On 1/6/2014 9:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> And from my lur
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Devin Jeanpierre
> wrote:
>> What if we decide there is no single source of responsibility, and it
>> can't be limited exactly to a module, and make a __future__ feature
>> the best we can regardless? We can
As a counterpoint to 2 versus 3:
http://python-notes.curiousefficiency.org/en/latest/python3/questions_and_answers.html
by Nick Coughlan, one of Python's major core developers.
A couple of points related to the other threads.
1. There were real social and technical reasons for the non-2.8 pep (4
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Devin Jeanpierre
wrote:
> What if we decide there is no single source of responsibility, and it
> can't be limited exactly to a module, and make a __future__ feature
> the best we can regardless? We can still exact some benefit from a
> "sloppy" __future__ feature:
In article ,
CM wrote:
> On Sunday, January 5, 2014 4:50:55 PM UTC-5, Roy Smith wrote:
>
> > One of the things we try to do is put as little in the views as
> > possible. Views should be all about accepting and validating request
> > parameters, and generating output (be that HTML via templa
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Devin Jeanpierre
> wrote:
>> For example, I imagine that it is kind of _silly_ to have a
>> __future__.disable_str_autoencoding on a per-module basis, because
>> some modules' functions will fail when they ar
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Rhodri James wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Jan 2014 21:17:06 -, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
>> On Monday 06 January 2014 16:16:13 Terry Reedy did opine:
>>
>>> On 1/6/2014 9:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> > And from my lurking here, its quite plain to me that 3.x python has a
On Mon, 06 Jan 2014 21:17:06 -, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 06 January 2014 16:16:13 Terry Reedy did opine:
On 1/6/2014 9:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> And from my lurking here, its quite plain to me that 3.x python has a
> problem with everyday dealing with strings.
Strings of what? An
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
>>Uhh, I think you're the only one here who has that nightmare, like
>>Chris Knight with his sun-god robes and naked women throwing pickles
>>at him.
>>
>
> Will somebody please wash out my brain... "Pickles straight from the
> jar,
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Devin Jeanpierre
wrote:
> For example, I imagine that it is kind of _silly_ to have a
> __future__.disable_str_autoencoding on a per-module basis, because
> some modules' functions will fail when they are given the wrong type,
> and some won't -- but in the context
I've been programming for a long while in an event&callback-driven world.
While I am comfortable enough with the mechanisms available (almost 100% of
what I do is in a PyGTK world with its signal mechanism), it's never been
all that satisfying, breaking up my calculations into various pieces, and
t
Mark Janssen wrote:
>> Looks like another bad batch, time to change your dealer again.
>
> ??? Strange, when the debate hits bottom, accusations about doing
> drugs come up. This is like the third reference (and I don't even
> drink alcohol).
It is an oblique reference to the fact that your pos
On Mon, 06 Jan 2014 07:51:28 -, Göktuğ Kayaalp
wrote:
Thanks for the input! I'd be quite interested in examples which required
you to "mentally transpose the conditional back to the start of the
statement", by the way.
Sorry, it's been too long and I don't have any relevant Perl arou
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 4:50:55 PM UTC-5, Roy Smith wrote:
> One of the things we try to do is put as little in the views as
> possible. Views should be all about accepting and validating request
> parameters, and generating output (be that HTML via templates, or JSON,
> or whatever). All
Ethan Furman wrote:
> On 01/06/2014 09:27 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> Ethan Furman wrote:
>>
>> Chris didn't say "bytes and ascii data", he said "bytes and TEXT".
>> Text != "ascii data", and the fact that some people apparently think it
>> does is pretty much the heart of the problem.
>
> The
On Monday, January 6, 2014 12:02:31 PM UTC-5, blis...@gmail.com wrote:
> I love programming in python but I'm having trouble deciding over a framework
> for a single player MUD like game I'm making for fun. Ideally it's a
> cross-platform free framework in case I want make it open source later wi
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Can we get a run-down of everything that actually must be broken in
> 2.7 -> 3.3, that can't be backported via __future__, so we can start
> cherry-picking which bits to break in 2.8? The biggest one is going to
> be Unicode strings, for a la
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> http://blog.startifact.com/posts/python-2-gravity.html
>
> "A Way Forward - How to go forward then? I think it makes sense to work as
> hard as possible to lift those Python 2 codebases out of the gravity well."
>
> I think this is complete no
On Monday, 6 January 2014, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Nicholas Cole
> >
> wrote:
> > But what about the end-user? The end-user who just wants a blob (he
> doesn't
> > care about what language it is in - he just wants to solve the problem at
> > hand with your shiny,
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:11 AM, d ss wrote:
> i wrote just 2 words with a clear indicative title: "Python, Finance" which
> summarizes the following "if you are good in python and interested in
> applying your python knowledge to the field of finance then we may have a
> common interest in talk
On Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:11:53 -0800, d ss wrote:
i wrote just 2 words with a clear
> indicative title: "Python, Finance" which summarizes the following "if
> you are good in python and interested in applying your python knowledge
> to the field of finance then we may have a common interest in talk
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Nicholas Cole wrote:
> But what about the end-user? The end-user who just wants a blob (he doesn't
> care about what language it is in - he just wants to solve the problem at
> hand with your shiny, cool, problem-solving application).
This is where OS-provided pa
This email is inspired by a YouTube video of a talk that Jessica McKellar
recently gave. I was struck by her analysis that it is hard to remain a
popular language (as Python currently is) and her call to action to address
friction points that make it hard for a non-Python audience to use Python
an
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> Terry Reedy udel.edu> writes:
>>
>> On 1/6/2014 11:29 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>>
>> > People don't use? According to available figures, there are more
> downloads of
>> > Python 3 than downloads of Python 2 (Windows installers, mostly):
>
On 06/01/2014 23:14, Ben Finney wrote:
Mark Lawrence writes:
You arrogance really has no bounds. If you'd have done the job that
you should have done in the first place and stopped that blithering
idiot 16 months ago, we wouldn't still be putting up with him now.
That is a misdirection; Ned
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> Chris Angelico gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Antoine Pitrou pitrou.net>
> wrote:
>> > People don't use? According to available figures, there are more
> downloads of
>> > Python 3 than downloads of Python 2 (Windo
Mark Lawrence writes:
> You arrogance really has no bounds. If you'd have done the job that
> you should have done in the first place and stopped that blithering
> idiot 16 months ago, we wouldn't still be putting up with him now.
That is a misdirection; Ned's request that you stop bad behaviou
Terry Reedy udel.edu> writes:
>
> On 1/6/2014 11:29 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>
> > People don't use? According to available figures, there are more
downloads of
> > Python 3 than downloads of Python 2 (Windows installers, mostly):
> > http://www.python.org/webstats/
>
> While I would like the
On 06/01/2014 22:41, Nicholas Cole wrote:
I hardly know which of the various threads on this topic to reply to!
No one is taking Python 2.7 away from anyone. It is going to be on the
net for years to come. Goodness! I expect if I wanted to go and
download Python 1.5 I could find it easily enou
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Mark Janssen wrote:
>>> Really? If people are using binary with "well-defined ascii-encoded
>>> tidbits", they're doing something wrong. Perhaps you think escape
>>> characters "\n" are "well defined tidbits", but YOU WOULD BE WRONG.
>>> The purpose of binary is t
On 06/01/2014 22:35, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Mark Lawrence yahoo.co.uk> writes:
[...]
And as I started this thread, I'll say what I please, throwing my toys
out of my pram in just the same way that your pal Armin is currently doing.
I'll join Ned here: please stop it. You are doing a disservi
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Tim Chase wrote:
> On 2014-01-06 22:20, Serhiy Storchaka wrote:
>> data = b"\x43\x6c\x67\x75\x62\x61" # is there an easier way to
>> turn a hex dump into a bytes literal?
>>
>> >>> bytes.fromhex('43 6c 67 75 62 61')
>> b'Clguba'
>
> Very nice new function
>> I would still point out that "Kenneth and Armin" are not the whole Python
>> community.
>
> I never said they were the whole community, of course. But they are not
> outliers either. [...]
>
>> Your whole argument seems to be that a couple "revered" (!!)
>> individuals should see their complain
On 06/01/2014 22:31, Russell E. Owen wrote:
I'm no expert on GUIs but I've just picked wxPython via the age old
system of tossing a coin :)
I have a free cross-platform Python GUI application that has to run on
Mac and linux. It is presently written in Tkinter, but for various
reasons* it may
On 1/6/2014 11:29 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
People don't use? According to available figures, there are more downloads of
Python 3 than downloads of Python 2 (Windows installers, mostly):
http://www.python.org/webstats/
While I would like the claim to be true, I do not see 2 versus 3
download
On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 12:08:19 -0800 (PST), Isaac Won
wrote:
dis1 = [[]]*1
for c in range(0,275):
dis1[0].append(dis[c])
So dis1 has 1 row in it. But contourf is expecting many rows,
matching the length of lat. I'm guessing you have to fill in the
others.
cs = plt.
I hardly know which of the various threads on this topic to reply to!
No one is taking Python 2.7 away from anyone. It is going to be on the net
for years to come. Goodness! I expect if I wanted to go and download
Python 1.5 I could find it easily enough.
Like everyone else, when Python 3 came
Mark Lawrence yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> [...]
>
> And as I started this thread, I'll say what I please, throwing my toys
> out of my pram in just the same way that your pal Armin is currently doing.
I'll join Ned here: please stop it. You are doing a disservice to
everyone.
Thanks in advance
An
I have a free cross-platform Python GUI application that has to run on
Mac and linux. It is presently written in Tkinter, but for various
reasons* it may be time to switch.
I've heard many good things about wxpython and qt, but not used either,
and am wondering if somebody could tell me if eith
On 06/01/2014 22:22, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On 1/6/14 5:08 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 06/01/2014 21:42, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On 1/6/14 4:33 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 06/01/2014 21:17, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 06 January 2014 16:16:13 Terry Reedy did opine:
On 1/6/2014 9:32 AM, Gene
On 1/6/14 5:16 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Ned Batchelder nedbatchelder.com> writes:
I never said they were the whole community, of course. But they are not
outliers either. By your own statistics above, 23% of respondents think
Python 3 was a mistake. Armin and Kenneth are just two very visib
On 1/6/14 5:08 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 06/01/2014 21:42, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On 1/6/14 4:33 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 06/01/2014 21:17, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 06 January 2014 16:16:13 Terry Reedy did opine:
On 1/6/2014 9:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
And from my lurking here, it
Ned Batchelder nedbatchelder.com> writes:
>
>
> I never said they were the whole community, of course. But they are not
> outliers either. By your own statistics above, 23% of respondents think
> Python 3 was a mistake. Armin and Kenneth are just two very visible
> people.
Indeed, they are
On 06/01/2014 21:42, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On 1/6/14 4:33 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 06/01/2014 21:17, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 06 January 2014 16:16:13 Terry Reedy did opine:
On 1/6/2014 9:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
And from my lurking here, its quite plain to me that 3.x python has a
On 1/6/2014 7:39 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
You are still talking about whether Armin is right, and whether he
writes well, about flaws in his statistics, etc.
That is how *I* decide whether someone is worth attending to. He failed.
> I'm talking about the fact that an organization
of volunte
On 1/6/14 4:33 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 06/01/2014 21:17, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 06 January 2014 16:16:13 Terry Reedy did opine:
On 1/6/2014 9:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
And from my lurking here, its quite plain to me that 3.x python has a
problem with everyday dealing with strings.
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> I find all this intriguing. People haven't found time to migrate from
> Python 2 to Python 3, but now intend finding time to produce a fork of
> Python 2 which will ease the migration to Python 3. Have I got that
> correct?
Keeping old, uns
On 1/6/14 11:29 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Ned Batchelder nedbatchelder.com> writes:
You can look through his problems and decide that he's "wrong," or that
he's "ranting," but that doesn't change the fact that Python 3 is
encountering friction. What happens when a significant fraction of your
On 06/01/2014 21:17, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 06 January 2014 16:16:13 Terry Reedy did opine:
On 1/6/2014 9:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
And from my lurking here, its quite plain to me that 3.x python has a
problem with everyday dealing with strings.
Strings of what? And what specific 'ev
>> Really? If people are using binary with "well-defined ascii-encoded
>> tidbits", they're doing something wrong. Perhaps you think escape
>> characters "\n" are "well defined tidbits", but YOU WOULD BE WRONG.
>> The purpose of binary is to keep things raw. WTF?
>
> If you want to participate i
On 1/6/14 12:50 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Ned Batchelder wrote:
You are still talking about whether Armin is right, and whether he
writes well, about flaws in his statistics, etc. I'm talking about the
fact that an organization (Python core development) has a product
(Python 3) that is gettin
>> Really? If people are using binary with "well-defined ascii-encoded
>> tidbits", they're doing something wrong. Perhaps you think escape
>> characters "\n" are "well defined tidbits", but YOU WOULD BE WRONG.
>> The purpose of binary is to keep things raw. WTF?
> If you want to participate in
On Monday 06 January 2014 16:16:13 Terry Reedy did opine:
> On 1/6/2014 9:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > And from my lurking here, its quite plain to me that 3.x python has a
> > problem with everyday dealing with strings.
>
> Strings of what? And what specific 'everyday' problem are you referrin
On Monday, January 6, 2014 12:06:45 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 3:58 AM, d ss wrote:
>
> > what the heck!
>
> > who told you this is a spam!
>
> > this is a call for cooperation and collaboration
>
> > how retarded!
>
>
>
> It is, at best, misdirected. There is
On 1/6/14 2:30 PM, Mark Janssen wrote:
Chris didn't say "bytes and ascii data", he said "bytes and TEXT".
Text != "ascii data", and the fact that some people apparently think it
does is pretty much the heart of the problem.
The heart of a different problem, not this one. The problem I refer to
On 06/01/2014 20:49, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 1/6/2014 8:44 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 06/01/2014 12:39, Ned Batchelder wrote:
I'm not talking about the technical details of bytes and Unicode. I'm
talking about making customers happy.
Simply scrap PEP 404
Not necessary.
and the currently
On Monday, 6 January 2014 18:14:08 UTC+1, jwe.va...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have problems with these two classes:
>
>
>
> class LPU1():
>
> def __init__(self, formula):
>
> """
>
> formula is a string that is parsed into a SymPy function
>
> and several derived func
On 1/6/2014 10:10 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
The argument is that a very important, if small, subset a data
manipulation become very painful in Py3. Not impossible, and not
difficult, but painful because the mental model and the contortions
needed to get things to work don't sync up anymore.
Tha
On 1/6/2014 8:44 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 06/01/2014 12:39, Ned Batchelder wrote:
I'm not talking about the technical details of bytes and Unicode. I'm
talking about making customers happy.
Simply scrap PEP 404
Not necessary.
and the currently unhappy customers will be happy
as they'
On 06/01/2014 20:42, Tim Chase wrote:
On 2014-01-06 22:20, Serhiy Storchaka wrote:
data = b"\x43\x6c\x67\x75\x62\x61" # is there an easier way to
turn a hex dump into a bytes literal?
>>> bytes.fromhex('43 6c 67 75 62 61')
b'Clguba'
Very nice new functionality in Py3k, but 2.x doesn't seem
On 2014-01-06 22:20, Serhiy Storchaka wrote:
> data = b"\x43\x6c\x67\x75\x62\x61" # is there an easier way to
> turn a hex dump into a bytes literal?
>
> >>> bytes.fromhex('43 6c 67 75 62 61')
> b'Clguba'
Very nice new functionality in Py3k, but 2.x doesn't seem to have such
a meth
On 06/01/2014 20:31, Serhiy Storchaka wrote:
06.01.14 15:44, Mark Lawrence написав(ла):
Simply scrap PEP 404 and the currently unhappy customers will be happy
as they'll be free to do all the work they want on Python 2.8, as my
understanding is that the vast majority of the Python core developer
Chris Angelico gmail.com> writes:
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Antoine Pitrou pitrou.net>
wrote:
> > People don't use? According to available figures, there are more
downloads of
> > Python 3 than downloads of Python 2 (Windows installers, mostly):
> > http://www.python.org/webstats/
> >
06.01.14 15:44, Mark Lawrence написав(ла):
Simply scrap PEP 404 and the currently unhappy customers will be happy
as they'll be free to do all the work they want on Python 2.8, as my
understanding is that the vast majority of the Python core developers
won't do it for them.
It's not necessary.
06.01.14 06:41, Tim Chase написав(ла):
from codecs import getencoder
getencoder("rot-13")(s2.decode('utf-8'))[0]
'Python'
codecs.decode('rot13', s2.decode())
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06.01.14 06:51, Chris Angelico написав(ла):
data = b"\x43\x6c\x67\x75\x62\x61" # is there an easier way to turn a hex dump
into a bytes literal?
>>> bytes.fromhex('43 6c 67 75 62 61')
b'Clguba'
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On 06/01/2014 20:08, Isaac Won wrote:
I have tried to make a plot of points with longitude and latitude coordinate,
and draw shaded area with distance from one point. So, I thought that I could
uae contourf function from matplotlibrary. My code is:
import haversine
import numpy as np
On 1/6/2014 9:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
And from my lurking here, its quite plain to me that 3.x python has a
problem with everyday dealing with strings.
Strings of what? And what specific 'everyday' problem are you referring to?
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I have tried to make a plot of points with longitude and latitude coordinate,
and draw shaded area with distance from one point. So, I thought that I could
uae contourf function from matplotlibrary. My code is:
import haversine
import numpy as np
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
wi
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On 06/01/2014 19:41, Mark Janssen wrote:
http://blog.startifact.com/posts/python-2-gravity.html
"A Way Forward - How to go forward then? I think it makes sense to work as
hard as possible to lift those Python 2 codebases out of the gravity well."
I think this is complete nonsense. There's only
> Looks like another bad batch, time to change your dealer again.
??? Strange, when the debate hits bottom, accusations about doing
drugs come up. This is like the third reference (and I don't even
drink alcohol).
mark
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> http://blog.startifact.com/posts/python-2-gravity.html
>
> "A Way Forward - How to go forward then? I think it makes sense to work as
> hard as possible to lift those Python 2 codebases out of the gravity well."
>
> I think this is complete nonsense. There's only been five years since the
> firs
On 06/01/2014 19:30, Mark Janssen wrote:
Chris didn't say "bytes and ascii data", he said "bytes and TEXT".
Text != "ascii data", and the fact that some people apparently think it
does is pretty much the heart of the problem.
The heart of a different problem, not this one. The problem I refer
>> Chris didn't say "bytes and ascii data", he said "bytes and TEXT".
>> Text != "ascii data", and the fact that some people apparently think it
>> does is pretty much the heart of the problem.
>
> The heart of a different problem, not this one. The problem I refer to is
> that many binary formats
http://blog.startifact.com/posts/python-2-gravity.html
"A Way Forward - How to go forward then? I think it makes sense to work
as hard as possible to lift those Python 2 codebases out of the gravity
well."
I think this is complete nonsense. There's only been five years since
the first relea
> The argument is that a very important, if small, subset a data manipulation
> become very painful in Py3. Not impossible, and not difficult, but painful
> because the mental model and the contortions needed to get things to work
> don't sync up anymore.
You are confused. Please see my reply to
On 06/01/2014 19:07, bliss...@gmail.com wrote:
Would you please read and action this
https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython to prevent us seeing
double line spacing, thanks.
--
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.
M
On Monday, January 6, 2014 12:37:24 PM UTC-5, blis...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, January 6, 2014 12:09:28 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 4:02 AM, wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > I love programming in python but I'm having trouble deciding over a
> > > framework for a si
On 01/06/2014 09:27 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Ethan Furman wrote:
Chris didn't say "bytes and ascii data", he said "bytes and TEXT".
Text != "ascii data", and the fact that some people apparently think it
does is pretty much the heart of the problem.
The heart of a different problem, not this
Hi everybody,
I'm trying to use MEGAM with NLTK.
running the file:
[Found /home/ubuntu/nltk_data/megam_i686.opt:
/home/ubuntu/nltk_data/megam_i686.opt]
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "classifying.py", line 494, in
me_classifier = MaxentClassifier.train(train_feats, algorithm=
Why not contribute to the planned Stackless 2.8? As I understand their
direction, they'll be backporting certain v3.x features and will be
prepping both SLP and nonSLP versions.
Emile
On 01/06/2014 04:45 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
Fellow Pythoneers,
I've started an informal channel "#pytho
jwe.van.d...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have problems with these two classes:
>
> class LPU1():
> def __init__(self, formula):
> """
> formula is a string that is parsed into a SymPy function
> and several derived functions
> """
> self.formula = formula
>
Ned Batchelder wrote:
> You are still talking about whether Armin is right, and whether he
> writes well, about flaws in his statistics, etc. I'm talking about the
> fact that an organization (Python core development) has a product
> (Python 3) that is getting bad press. Popular and vocal custom
On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 09:14:08 -0800 (PST), jwe.van.d...@gmail.com wrote:
I have problems with these two classes:
class LPU1() :
You forgot to derive from object. That's implied on 3.x, but you say
you're also running on 2.7 Without naming your base class you're
asking for an old style clas
On Monday, January 6, 2014 12:09:28 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 4:02 AM, wrote:
>
> > I love programming in python but I'm having trouble deciding over a
> > framework for a single player MUD like game I'm making for fun. Ideally
> > it's a cross-platform free fram
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