Hello Pharoers
We are moving to a new and much stable mailing-list.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Ben is on holiday.
Now I imagine that we should get a model that encapsulates a roassal easel is
the way to go
and it would be cool to have.
> Hi,
> how can i combine a Roassal visualization and a Spec UI?
> Is there already some Roassal-Spec?
> See attached screenshot for what i am trying to g
Hi guys
I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the
quality of our community is in
general excellent but we do not sell it. I think that we are not using well the
association.
I think that this is REALLY important for a larger adoption of Pharo that the
world
kno
On Jun 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>
> Am 01.06.2013 um 08:10 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse :
>
>> Hi guys
>>
>> I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the
>> quality of our community is in
>> general excellent
On Jun 2, 2013, at 5:48 AM, Bahman Movaqar wrote:
> On 2013-06-02 08:01, b...@openinworld.com wrote:
>>
>> I hope you guys don't mind, but in writing my dissertation and there is
>> no one local with Smalltalk experience to double-check some statements
>> that I'm making. Over the next few wee
On Jun 2, 2013, at 10:51 AM, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
> Ok.
>
> I'll get the latest PharoVM and move from there.
>
> And recovering lost changes when facing this is just a huge pain.
we are working on a totally new tool and model for change recovery and
publication.
Probably ready for the en
On Jun 1, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck
wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
> wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> I think that we are doing a poor job selling ourselves. I think that the
> quality of our community is in
> general e
Thanks for your feedback.
I agree with most of them (to me seasie is lacking a nice library of premade
components), now you have also reef (lacks a good oducmentation that
encapsulates
javascript) and amber for the client side.
With Pharo our goal is to make sure that people can make business. W
Hi guys
with the other synectique guys http://www.snectique.eu we decided to
open-source SourceCity.
http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/SourceCity
http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ErwanDouaille/SourceCity/
MCSmalltalkhubRepository
owner: 'ErwanDouaille'
project: 'So
I thought about the same. This is a pity that I do not have the knowledge to
build one :)
On Jun 2, 2013, at 3:50 PM, b...@openinworld.com wrote:
> I have had similar thoughts that many people are first drawn to an
> application, and then end up in its development language by default. My
> th
>
> But in general, I personally, 100% agree with you. Nothing better
> attracts the likes of me and at the same time proves the potentials of
> Smalltalk. I've already started a small project named Simin[1] with the
> exact same goal.
I strongly encourage you to have a look at magritte because
> Hello,
>
> As holidays are nearing for me (like 15/7-15/8), I plan to get the Blitz3D
> SDK working with Pharo through NativeBoost.
:)
If you want to have days of fun with us, you are welcome. We can easily provide
an office and fun colleagues.
Laurent Laffont is taking one week of holidays t
Hi Thushar
I do not know if magma is working on Pharo. Now I suggest you to have a look at
MongoDB and MongoTalk.
Because this is what the people around are using. You have also voyage that
serialize object described with magritte in mongotalk.
Now we should write some docs, but it would be bet
On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:34 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
> Is there any such project available?
the collabactive book?
>
>
>
> -
> Cheers,
> Sean
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://forum.world.st/Pharo-powered-wiki-tp4691650.html
> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list
Excellent.
We would really like to have magma running on Pharo. Please push
Stef
> Hi Thushar,
>
> Magma's developer mostly uses Squeak, so the latest version of Pharo
> that Magma works more or less out-of-the-box on is 1.3.
> I made a start on porting it to 1.4, and then 2.0 but then promptly
> Hi Damien,
>
>
> Because of the attached Message Tally outputs I don't think the problem
> is specific to changes I've made to an image. I also don't think that
> there is much differnece between Eliots vm or the pharo ppa vm. The
> Message Tally outputs are from profiling the UI while
could we get the image so that we can try?
Stef
On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>
> On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
>
>> Hi Damien,
>>
>>
>> Because of the attached Message Tally outputs I don't think the problem
>> is specific to changes I've made
can you open a bug entry and publish a slice so that we do not fix it.
Stef
On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
> Hi José,
>
> On 07 Jun 2013, at 12:02, José Comesaña wrote:
>
>> Hello everybody.
>>
>> I would like to add a new improvement to this thread.
>>
>> I hav
>>
>>
>> I had made the fixes myself, creating a new class for dates (I don't need
>> the complexity of Date just for determining if a date is past, I don't need
>> date arithmetic either). I just wanted to inform, mainly because the bug
>> seems to be still present in Pharo 3.0.
>>
>> Anyway
On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>
> On 07 Jun 2013, at 11:07, Markus Fritsche wrote:
>
>> Hello Sven & List,
>>
>> On 07.06.2013 10:45, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>>> Yes, it is an important problem (but the trigger is a change in Ubuntu
>>> 13.04). I am not an U
> Hi again.
>
> I have one first test for #readFrom:pattern:. What can I do now to send it,
> where, to whom?.
I will create a bug entry for you and you create a slice with the test and the
fix and you publish it in the pharo inbox.
Stef
>
> Regards
>
> 2013/6/7 Sven Van Caekenberghe
>
Here it is https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10869
Stef
On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>
>> Hi again.
>>
>> I have one first test for #readFrom:pattern:. What can I do now to send it,
>> where, to whom?.
>
> I will create
tx I will look at it.
Stef
On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:57 PM, José Comesaña wrote:
> Done.
>
> I hope I have made it correctly. If not, please tell me.
>
> Regards
>
> 2013/6/7 Stéphane Ducasse
> Here it is https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10869
>
> Stef
>
Jose
normally we do not summit code in the pane of the bug tracker, we commit a
slice (click + slice in the monticello browser)
in the inbox folder.
Stef
On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> tx I will look at it.
>
> Stef
>
> On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:57 PM
thanks :)
This is less work for us and the process can automatically check the code and
run the tests automatically.
Stef
On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:16 PM, José Comesaña wrote:
> Ok, I will correct it tomorrow.
>
> Txs
>
>
>
> El 07/06/2013, a las 21:45, Stéphane
On Jun 8, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>
> On 08 Jun 2013, at 15:16, Clément Bera wrote:
>
>> I have to agree.
>>
>> I would love to have a Pharo T-shirt. And I think I know some other people
>> that would be interested :)
>
> +1
>
> But we need über cool geeky designs
> How are we going to run the logistics of the Pharo merchandising?
>
> I have run a small business selling domain specific t-shirts, hats etc and I
> had a small online store running on a web server.
> That's nice from the point of view that it's sole purpose is the domain, but
> on the down sid
rs
> printed by the Sticker Guy (https://www.stickerguy.com/index.html). If
> you're interested I'll let you know how they turn out. It'll be a few
> weeks before I get them in, though.
> <3 Ken
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
>
but halt is really a simple method
you can introduce myHalt
Object>>myHalt
Halt signal.
and you are done.
Stef
On Jun 9, 2013, at 9:58 AM, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
> +1 to what Sabine says. Very useful behavior.
>
> Phil
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Sabine Knöfel
> wro
you are welcome :)
On Jun 9, 2013, at 12:53 PM, José Comesaña wrote:
> Done.
>
> Sorry for my ignorance, :).
>
> Thanks
>
> 2013/6/7 Stéphane Ducasse
> thanks :)
> This is less work for us and the process can automatically check the code and
> run the tests automatically.
> Stef
>
>
On Jun 9, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
> I think that we do have a problem, and I think it is VM related.
>
> This is what I see on my Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit machine (AMD Athlon(tm) II X4
> 640, 4GB, AMD Radeon HD 7750) using a Pharo 3.0 #30189 image.
>
> Using the vm from get
On Jun 11, 2013, at 12:14 PM, LogiqueWerks wrote:
> re: headless Pharo 2.0
>
> I just finished building gst on a tiny VPS site, but I would rather use
> pharo ... I can get some tips from pharo --help in my SSH console but I have
> a big dev CentOS here in VirtualBox in which to experiment in h
not that I know but I would really like to experiment with such feature.
On Jun 11, 2013, at 7:05 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
>
>
> Is there a way to set the browser to auto format on save or display in
> pharo 2?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
Hi tom
Hello, which version of Pharo are you using?
Because I do not see why you need to load FileSystem or Moose.
Stef
On Jun 11, 2013, at 10:54 PM, Thomas Worthington
wrote:
> Pick something in the configuration browser's unverified tab at random and
> the chances are that "Install configur
>> Because I do not see why you need to load FileSystem or Moose.
>
> I had forgotten than FileSystem was in 2.0; I don't see Moose anywhere in the
> groups menu.
>
> But the general question is: when the stable load fails, what is plan-B for
> the user? I couldn't work this out from the sourc
Yes this book is interesting.
Now this is several time I contacted steven wessels to know
if he is interested about a port to pharo and about the license but he never
replied to me (while I tried to help him finding for jobs in the past).
So I cannot interact with people not even replying to mail
thanks this is a good news :)
I was working on a minimal log frameworks so I will study the code.
Stef
On Jun 13, 2013, at 12:14 AM, Donald wrote:
> Instantiations has open sourced its Log4s logging framework under the MIT
> license.
>
> It runs on Pharo 2.
>
> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Log
Hi guys
We will organize a one day sprint Friday at Lille.
You are all welcome :)
Stef
Hi
I read the chapter on validation of the mentoring course book of andres valloud.
http://www.lulu.com/fr/fr/shop/andres-valloud/a-mentoring-course-on-smalltalk/paperback/product-3788890.html
And I love this extension of SUnit. I loved the idea when I saw it for the
first time at Lug
Thanks esteban I will convert the blog into a draft chapter so that olivier can
help documenting it too.
Stef
On Jun 14, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I worked a bit on voyage today to update the configuration for 2.0 (it was
> working, but not with the latest versions
Hi Paul
what was doing the recompile? Why was it needed?
Now we can scope refactoring but I do not know about the recompile all since I
do not know it was there and useful.
Stef
On Jun 14, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
> In earlier versions of Pharo you could choose a refactoring sc
On Jun 14, 2013, at 11:33 PM, Andy Burnett
wrote:
> <<<
> This should work:
>
> (ZnServer defaultOn: 1701)
> logToTranscript;
> delegate: ((ZnStaticFileServerDelegate new)
> prefixFromString:
> 'apple/macosx';
>
On Jun 14, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>
> PS: We really need to start tracking benchmarks across platforms and versions
> - so much to do.
same feeling here :)
Stef
> actually https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/VM/job/PharoVM-tests/ succesfully
> detected the degeneration and thus failed.
> And yes, we will add real benchmarks at some point. But for that we first
> need dedicated machines, as running them on a virtualized environment doesn't
> make much sense
mariano?
Stef
> Could someone on this list give me an account? I could start to capture bits
> and pieces.
on it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> On 06/15/2013 01:02 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>> Hi Paul
>>
>> what was doing the recompile? Why was it needed?
>> Now we can scope refactoring but I do not know about the recompile all since
>> I
On Jun 15, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote:
>
> On 2013-06-15, at 13:16, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>>
>>> actually https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/VM/job/PharoVM-tests/ succesfully
>>> detected the degeneration and thus failed.
>>> And yes,
On Jun 15, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Andy Burnett
wrote:
> <<<
> have a look on git
> https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoForTheEnterprise-english
> I started to convert all the zinc documentation that sven wrote.
>
> We can add a new chapter on Zinc Usage.
>
> We are working on a format
On Jun 17, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
> PharoForTheEnterprise works very well for generating nice-looking
> documentation.
> I've started moving some Deltawerken introduction mails to this format.
>
> On a 10.6.8 Mac, I've noticed the following:
> - each compile run complains
>
>> Hi Sven,
>> This kind of widget is missing.
>> Have a try with:
>> SimpleGridExample new open
>> It is implemented with MorphTreeMorph.
>> It is far from the best solution since MorphTreeMorph a Tree/List
>> widget but it should be ok if you have not too many data.
>> Maybe the Glamour soluti
Hi
I do not know your experience with smalltalk and pharo but pay attention
because there are really few people working using git and pharo.
I would be you I would concnetrate on the smalltalk part first,
Stef
On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Bahman Movaqar wrote:
> Hmm...let's say I have the pro
id to get exposed to too many difficulities at
once.
>
> Thierry
>
> Le 19/06/2013 11:13, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
>> Hi
>> I do not know your experience with smalltalk and pharo but pay attention
>> because there are really few people working using git and p
I did my best to comment what I could really understand.
Now as soon as somebody understand more he should have the reflex to add
comments.
I was always confused by resolve:
Stef
> Apparently it is #resolve:
>
> '/tmp/data-dir/' asFileReference resolve: 'a/b/c/file.txt' asFileReference
>
> Wa
On Jun 21, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
> I know you did, but it is as you say: this should be done by someone who
> really understands the design. For example: I learned about #resolve: from
> comments at the Disk implementation level, not the Public API level where
> ther
I go the same problem.
but I tried with pharo 30 so it was on my todo to try to load it in 20.
Having a configuration for loading it would be good.
Once all the packages are available I could write one.
Stef
On Jun 22, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Stuart Herring wrote:
> Hi Donald,
>
> I tried to load it
Hi guys
I would be good if we would got more comments on the amazon version of Pharo by
example and Pharo par l'exemple. Any good soul that enjoyed the book willing to
add some comments?
Stef
Hi guys
I realised that I did not know well the startup preferences which is really
cool :)
I read and converted (updated and enhanced) the blog of Mariano (thanks for
that Mariano).
Now I want to share a new chapter with you.
StartupPreferences.pier.pdf
Enjoy :)
Thanks Benjamin and Mariano.
:)
Stef
On Jun 24, 2013, at 4:22 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck
wrote:
> Cool! Thanks Stef. I just add an update in the blog post mentioning the
> chapter pdf :)
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
> wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> I realised that I di
Cool
Do a pull request :)
On Jun 25, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Hernán Morales Durand
wrote:
> Cool, it worked perfectly! Thank you Damien. I guess I have cloned the wrong
> repository, "git://github.com/DamienCassou/pier-cl.git"
>
> Now I have a BioPharo chapter :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hernán
>
> El 25
have a look at aconcagua and chronos (probably chronos is better for your task).
Stef
On Jun 25, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Bahman Movaqar wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> In Iran we use a calendar different from Gergorian and Islamic
> calendars; it's called Jalali calendar[1]. The people in Afghanistan
> use th
Hi guys
we created a slideshare acount for pharo
I added
2009 smalltalks slides
2011 ESUG
2013 Pharo Conference
a new lecture
Intro
Model
Syntax
http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/
Can you tell
Thanks I only put 7 of them for now.
I will continue.
Stef
On Jun 27, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Joachim Tuchel wrote:
> Hi Stef
>
> I can only see 7 presentations. 4 of them are from 2013.
>
> Joachim
>
> Stéphane Ducasse schrieb:
>
>> Hi guys
>>
>> we
Ok so they try to influence the user by giving wrong information.
I will continue to upload the slides then.
Stef
On Jun 27, 2013, at 8:58 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>
> On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.slideshare.net/pharopro
100 looks small :)
http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject
Stef
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> To: bo...@pharo-project.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Congrats, you have over 100 view
Hi
we got this discussion about the VM on 64 bits so do we try to take the
opportunity
to get a crowdsource donate button for it?
Esteban/igor what is your estimate for such task?
Stef
so much?
how many men/months?
Stef
On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
> On 27 June 2013 14:16, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> we got this discussion about the VM on 64 bits so do we try to take the
>> opportunity
>> to get a
done :)
On Jun 29, 2013, at 1:47 AM, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
> on smalltalkhub I'm pdebruic and I'd like to be added to that repo. Thanks
>
>
> Paul
>
On Jun 29, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Thushar G R wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was using WAFileMetadataLibrary and i found a possible issue with
> addFileAt: aPath relativeToRootDirectory: relativeRootDirectory.
>
> The problem i encountered is that some css with(../img/someImage.png) was
> getting pointed tow
On Jun 29, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
> On 29 June 2013 20:12, Camillo Bruni wrote:
>> Working on the new class builder I have a hard time figuring out the full
>> trait
>> semantics.
>>
>> If I use a trait on instance side, does that imply that its classTrait on the
>> metaclass?
ertainly makes model more complex.
>>
>> On 29 June 2013 22:52, Camillo Bruni wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2013-06-29, at 22:32, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29 June 2013 21:21, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On J
Hi donald
you have to define a configurationOfLog4J by hand (soon there will be a tool)
Have a look at the metacello chapter
http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/pbe2/
You can look for example at the Soup project in PharoExtras on SmalltalkHub to
get an example.
Now for your problem apparently yo
On Jun 30, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Kevin Cole wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Given that I now have both the newer VM and image from the Ubuntu Pharo PPA,
> and the VM and image from PBE, opening a file browser and clicking on an
> image saved from PBE fails, because it wants to open the newer VM.
Indeed. Better u
>
>
> But you know that you can do this right now?
>
> Object subclass: #Foo
> uses: TMyTrait classTrait
>
> and the same on the class-side :/
>
> Foo class
> uses: TMyOtherTrait
> instanceVariableNames: 'a b c'
>
> so from that
On Jun 30, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote:
>
> uses: TMyOtherTrait
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11088
On Jun 30, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
> Hi Again, Paul,
>
> It was a typo ;-)
> I added two new unit test as well.
>
> Here are the relevant commits:
>
> ===
> Name: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.372
> Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe
Thanks
this is bug due to one my my recent changes. Now this bug is really interesting
because
it shows that we will have some work before we can use Pharo 200% from the
command line
in headless mode.
The bug is due to the fact that we should change the world and to change the
world we shoul
I will do a pass
On Jul 2, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Martin Dias wrote:
>
> Martín
On Jul 2, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Martin Dias wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Max Leske wrote:
>> Awesome! I'll do a review pass.
>>
>
> great! indeed it needs some passes, at several levels. But at least in
> the gramatical and orthographical levels, it would be excellent.
>
>
> BTW...
are you looking for a smalltalker? because we can forward your announce to the
esug mailing-list
On Jul 2, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Chris wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Apologies if this is not the best place for this type of post but I'm not
> sure where else would be appropriate.
>
> I work for a company
Excellent news!
Stef
On Jul 2, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Chris wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Apologies if this is not the best place for this type of post but I'm not
> sure where else would be appropriate.
>
> I work for a company in the Midlands UK who are using Linux, Apache, Pharo,
> Postgres and also
>
> While I do agree with most of the temp files, I would let .pdf.
> Say someone wants to read the chapter...I have to follow all the steps there….
no jenkins latex for us :)
> If this is the place where at least temporary, final users should download
> from...please let the PDF there.
On Jul 3, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Hilaire Fernandes
wrote:
> Le 03/07/2013 09:59, Tudor Girba a écrit :
>> We just have to capitalize on that, and I want to start by making
>> explicit what makes Pharo unique and valuable. Everyone thinks of
>> various things, but we do not yet have a concerted mess
On Jul 4, 2013, at 12:04 AM, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
> Is there any documentation on the changes between 1.4 and 2 for the
> refactoring tools? Or how to use them effectively to refactor code?
>
> I'm familiar with Lukas Renggli's writing on them and used them
> regularly in 1.4.
>
> I'm just t
Thanks for your feedback.
We would love to provide a better infrastructure. It just takes time.
Stef
On Jul 4, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Friedrich Dominicus
wrote:
> To everyone intersted/involved. I downloaded a new virtual machine today
> and the same code which has crashed the virtual machine, sim
On Jul 4, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
> Hi :)
>
> can you check if you have the "MongoQueries" package installed?
>
> cheers,
> Esteban
>
> ps: please notice that in anycase you will not be able to execute
>
> [ :each | each name first = $X ]
>
> because the MongoQueries pac
s esoteric as well (with "special" MongoDB keys in the
> format of "$key").
>
> Because the simplest map we have to a JSON Object is the Dictionary, I
> guess that's why it ends up being converted to a Dictionary, which in
> turn gets converted to JSON and/
:)
>
> On Jul 4, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
> wrote:
>
>> Ok but how do I map conceptual a query to a dictionary
>>
>> Do I guess right that there is an exact match
>>
>> selectOne: { id -> 10} asDictionary
>>
>> w
>
> On Jul 4, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Bernat Romagosa
> wrote:
>
>> For other kinds of matches, you need javascript queries, if I understood:
>>
>> User selectOne: [ :each | each where: 'this.name[0] == "s"' ]
>>
>> Right?
>>
>>
gt; Esteban
>
> On Jul 6, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
> wrote:
>
>> esteban could you take some time to add this information to the Voyage
>> chapter?
>>
>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/
>>
>> a
Thanks!
I have to try :)
Stef
On Jul 8, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> Erwan and I are proud to announce the first release of the Pharo
> Launcher, a cross-platform application that
>
> - lets you manage your Pharo images (launch, rename, copy and delete);
> - lets y
ow does one query a referenced object?
>>>>
>>>> MyClass selectMany: { 'project.name' -> 'Test' } asDictionary. "<-- Works
>>>> only if project is an embedded object, but it doesn't if it's a reference."
>>>>
Ben
I'm still fuzzy after a flood in the flat we rent at 2 in the morning :)
but I was thinking that may be we can use this example to explain the dynamic
part of spec.
So can you take this view also when you look at the code?
If this sounds good to you, I will put on the stack that I should look
>> First, not all programming languages are like this: You can easily run other
>> VMs (e.g., Java) with more than 3 GB. But, let's not even go there: I can
>> run Pharo with 1Gb on Mac without problems. According to your reasoning we
>> might end up downgrading the Mac VM. Some data does not fi
>>
>>
>
> If you reserve most of memory for objects, think how you could use things like
> freetype, opengl, cairo & any other library which allocates memory on
> conventional heap.
> also, think that DLLs and kernel needs breathing space as well.
But is it not the same on mac?
I thought that i
^.*na.*'.
>> '$options' -> 'i' } asDictionary } asDictionary
>> with: { 'profile.surname' -> { '$regex' -> '^.*ve.*'.
>> '$options' -> 'i' } asDictionary } asDictionary)
>>
, at 10:03 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
> On 9 July 2013 09:13, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>>> First, not all programming languages are like this: You can easily run
>>>> other VMs (e.g., Java) with more than 3 GB. But, let's not even go there:
>>>> I ca
>>
> Yes, i wish we can be there today.
> (And one day people will learn a difference between actual memory used
> and reserved address space :)
Igor this is not that we are not aware that Moose should be implemented
differently but it is not simple.
- the first design in 1998 was with
>>
>>
> and so i added it. But i hate doing that. Because such switch should
> not exist and VM should be able to adapt to application's memory
> requirements automatically, without requiring user's input.
I'm like you but I built a shield of pragmatism else I would have never started
pharo :)
+1
and we are not users. We are programmers :)
Stef
> I disagree. I think it is good if the VM is able to adapt so in the case
> where no switch is used the VM does its best to adapt to the requirements.
> But there are _always_ use cases where you need to fine-tune. If you have an
> applicati
cript with:
>
> objectQuantity := 512 * 1024.
>
> OSX: VM crash (in 530m)
> Linux: PASSES!
> Win: Didn't even tried.
>
> Same script with:
>
> objectQuantity := 248 * 1024.
>
> OSX: PASSES!
> Linux: PASSES!
> Win: Didn't tried, but it should pa
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