[OPSAWG]Re: Deb Cooley's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2025-07-31 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Deb, Do you still think a change is needed given what was explained so far? Thanks. Cheers, Med De : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET Envoyé : mardi 8 juillet 2025 13:48 À : 'Deb Cooley' Cc : The IESG ; draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-y...@ietf.org; opsawg-cha...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org; jcla

[OPSAWG]Mohamed Boucadair's Yes on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path-telemetry-20: (with COMMENT)

2025-07-28 Thread Mohamed Boucadair via Datatracker
Mohamed Boucadair has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path-telemetry-20: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however

[OPSAWG]Re: some questions to the WG about *pcap*

2025-07-18 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Michael, Agree with your proposal (1) below. I think that we can avoid the "ng" mentions in the Historical doc. I sent you a PR right now with some few changes: https://github.com/IETF-OPSAWG-WG/draft-ietf-opsawg-pcap/pull/187#pullrequestreview-3033954886. Thanks for the continuous effort

[OPSAWG]Re: Scope creep: Initial Shepherd Review of draft-opsarea-rfc5706bis-03

2025-07-16 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Benoît, all As an input to the chartering discussion but without any intention to interfere with the ongoing discussion, I'd like to remind that we do have the following OPS-related items in rfc2418#Section 2.2: == To facilitate evaluation of the intended work and to provide on-

[OPSAWG]Re: Paul Wouters' No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-13: (with COMMENT)

2025-07-09 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Paul, Thanks for the comment. I fully agree with what you said: > All security parameters are sensitive - if > modified to > weaker or broken algorithms that are still supported, this could be > used to > downgrade connections to a lesser security level. Especially when we have text in the d

[OPSAWG]Re: [NMOP] TR: New Liaison Statement, "ZSM work on Agent and Autonomy"

2025-07-09 Thread mohamed . boucadair
253b6f5d20%7C0%7C0%7C638871558726385485%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8ey > JF > > > bXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFp > bC > > > IsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=7VZ5FHQpq2Ag%2FIzv1J9byoVVyAmd > bP > > 2eS9YZeOYxCOs%3D&reserved=0

[OPSAWG]Re: Deb Cooley's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2025-07-08 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Deb, As a general rule, only authorized entities are allowed to read/write. The second para of the sec cons section covers that part. Following paragraphs focus on data nodes that are particularly sensitive. Please note that we avoid repeating considerations already covered in other RFCs; c

[OPSAWG]Re: Deb Cooley's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2025-07-07 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Deb, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Deb Cooley via Datatracker > Envoyé : lundi 7 juillet 2025 12:54 > À : The IESG > Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-y...@ietf.org; opsawg- > cha...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org; jcla...@cisco.com; > jcla...@cisco.com

[OPSAWG]TR: New Liaison Statement, "ZSM work on Agent and Autonomy"

2025-07-03 Thread mohamed . boucadair
IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/2010/ Please reply by 2025-09-08 From: isg_...@list.etsi.org To: Joe Clarke ,Benoît Claise ,Orie Steele ,Andy Newton ,Mahesh Jethanandani ,Mohamed Boucadair Cc: Joe Clarke ,Benoît Claise ,Operations and Management Area Working Group Discussion List

[OPSAWG]Re: Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-12: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2025-07-03 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Éric, Thanks for the review. Please see inline. Cheers, Med (as author) > -Message d'origine- > De : Éric Vyncke via Datatracker > Envoyé : jeudi 3 juillet 2025 11:01 > À : The IESG > Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-y...@ietf.org; opsawg- > cha...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org;

[OPSAWG]Re: Draft OODA-HTTP — Request for feedback and group alignment

2025-07-03 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Rachid, (replying without my OPS area director hat, but as an opsawg contributor) Thank you for sharing this proposal. As currently written, it is not easy to assess what aspects you are seeking to standardize and what elements you think requires interoperability. Answering these questions

[OPSAWG]Re: draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-12 ietf last call Secdir review

2025-07-01 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Robert, Thanks for the review. ACK. Will check and make sure both specs are in sync. Cheers, Med (as author) > -Message d'origine- > De : Robert Sparks via Datatracker > Envoyé : lundi 30 juin 2025 19:53 > À : sec...@ietf.org > Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang@ietf.org

[OPSAWG]Re: [OPS-DIR]Re: draft-ietf-raw-architecture-25 ietf last call Opsdir review

2025-06-29 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Pascal, (removing IETF LC list + added opsawg). Thanks for the follow-up with Giuseppe. I think that we need to get this right. I saw that Janos raised similar comments (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/detnet/NqTndz1P2DaGTH45JCw5O9XQQqc/), but failed to find where this was discussed th

[OPSAWG]Re: Ketan Talaulikar's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-21: (with DISCUSS)

2025-06-27 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Deb, I hear you, but the situation is more complex. Upleveling the full protocol to PS is a distinct work item vs what the WG agreed and committed to deliver. That work would end up BTW with specifying “something” that is not interoperable with the currently widely deployed TACACS+. I’m not

[OPSAWG]Re: Ketan Talaulikar's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-21: (with DISCUSS)

2025-06-25 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Ketan, Thanks for digging into this and for clearing. The PS justification for this extension (see more details in the writeup) is strong enough to not revisit it. It is true that 8907 will be a downref, but that one should already be in the downref registry as it was already normatively ci

[OPSAWG]Re: draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-11 ietf last call Genart review

2025-06-24 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Ines, Thank you for the review. As a general note, some of your comments are related to parts that were already in RFC 9105, while this revision is scoped to add TLS support. Please see inline for more context. Cheers, Med (as author) > -Message d'origine- > De : Ines Robles via

[OPSAWG]Re: Ketan Talaulikar's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-21: (with DISCUSS)

2025-06-21 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Ketan, The approach followed here follows what was agreed with the IESG at the time of publication of 8907 and which is captured in the note sent by Warren to the WG to act upon (2021): https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/opsawg/IPNhvGyhDAawsavqRUHIliCr4xk/, especially this part: " When

[OPSAWG]Re: New draft version posted: Guidelines for Considering Operations and Management in IETF Specifications

2025-06-13 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi all, Thanks Adrian, Benoît, Carlos, Joe, Ran, Joe, and Thomas for the effort put into this. I appreciate the hard work and dedication to keep us aligned with the initial plan. @all: Please review and share comments and suggestions with the authors. Thank you. Cheers, Med De : Benoit Clai

[OPSAWG]Path-Congruent/In-Flow (was RE: Re: RFC 5085/PALS/PWE3 ...")

2025-06-06 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi all, (changing the subject to ease tracking the discussion) At least from where I sit, I think that that the inputs from Andy/ Matthew kindly helped to clarify the assumptions on the QoS treatment. Now, focusing on this part of the discussion where Greg suggests: * In-flow OAM is an act

[OPSAWG]RFC 5085/PALS/PWE3 (RE: Re: WG LAST CALL: Guidelines for Charactering "OAM"

2025-06-04 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Andy/Stewart/Matthew, I hope you are doing well. I’m soliciting your feedback on this text which is included in draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-characterization: An example of "Path-Congruent OAM" is the Virtual Circuit Connectivity Verification (VCCV), described is Section 6 of [RFC

[OPSAWG]Re: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC9445 (8431)

2025-05-26 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Wenxi, all, Looks good to me. I suggest to mark this as verified. Thank you. Cheers, Med (as author) > -Message d'origine- > De : RFC Errata System > Envoyé : lundi 26 mai 2025 18:24 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET ; > kond...@gmail.com; al...@freeradius.org; BOUCADAIR Mohamed > I

[OPSAWG]draft-opsarea-rfc5706bis: IM/DMs (was RE: [neotec] Re: Seek feedback on the revised Neotec charter

2025-05-16 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Joel, all, (removing all other @es to cci, but add opsawg as this point is relevant to the ongoing 5706 refresh) There is an ongoing discussion about what we should say about IM and so on; hence changing the subject so that authors are aware of this thread. The changes made so far on this s

[OPSAWG]ONIONS & OPSAWG (was TR: New Non-WG Mailing List: Operationalizing Network & service abstractIONS (ONIONS)

2025-05-14 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi all, I'm forwarding this announcement to OPSAWG as there might be some implications on the maintenance of some of the work we have done here. So far, the following is identified for OPSAWG: == Relationship with Existing WGs OPSAWG * Offload AC/SAP/LxNM to ONIONS * Future relevant work on ab

[OPSAWG]Re: New draft version posted (Fwd: RFC5706bis => draft-opsarea-rfc5706bis posted)

2025-05-12 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Benoît, all, Thank you for the team. FWIW, Alvaro Retana kindly accepted to be the document Shepherd. Cheers, Med De : Benoit Claise Envoyé : lundi 12 mai 2025 15:24 À : opsawg Cc : ops-...@ietf.org; draft-opsarea-rfc5706...@ietf.org; ops-ads Objet : New draft version posted (Fwd: RFC570

[OPSAWG]Re: draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-11 ietf last call Yangdoctors review

2025-05-06 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Reshad, Thank you for the review. For the nacm changes, this was fixed as part the shepherd review as the Datatracker was complaining about these NACM warnings. Thanks, Joe! Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Reshad Rahman via Datatracker > Envoyé : mardi 6 mai 2025 23:37 >

[OPSAWG]Re: AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-09

2025-05-05 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Mahesh, Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Mahesh Jethanandani Envoyé : vendredi 2 mai 2025 01:01 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang@ietf.org; opsawg ; tina.t...@tiktok.com; Reshad Rahman Objet : Re: AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tac

[OPSAWG]Re: AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-09

2025-04-30 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Mahesh, Thanks for the review. A new version that integrates your comments is available online: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-09&url2=draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-10&difftype=--html. As a general note, please note that we are not deal

[OPSAWG]Re: [Last-Call] Re: Change to draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13

2025-04-29 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Victor, (please keep the ospawg list in the reply as not all WG participants are in this list) The document will point to rfc9525#section-7.1 for a discussion of the wildcard risks. > Even if wildcards are supported, they should at least be > discouraged. The proposed text adheres to the

[OPSAWG]Mohamed Boucadair's Yes on charter-ietf-opsawg-04-05: (with COMMENT)

2025-04-29 Thread Mohamed Boucadair via Datatracker
Mohamed Boucadair has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-opsawg-04-05: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along

[OPSAWG]Re: Feedback Wanted: Is Attachment Circuit YANG Sufficient for Neotec Use Case?

2025-04-25 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Linda, all, Thank you for the follow-up and for considering this approach. This exercise is really important as it is a walk trough a set of models and assess whether they can address your needs. That exercise is also important because it further shows how the various modules can be invoked

[OPSAWG]Re: [OPS-DIR]Opsdir ietf last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-09

2025-04-25 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Tina, Thank you for clarifying the VRF point. I don’t think a change is needed as we don’t define the VRF itself but I will think further about this. Cheers, Med De : Tina Tsou Envoyé : vendredi 18 avril 2025 19:28 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET Cc : ops-...@ietf.org; draft-ietf-opsawg-s

[OPSAWG]Re: RFC 8309, Service Delivery Model Clarification

2025-04-23 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Thomas, all FWIW, 8407bis has a subset of classes that reflect the main flavors defined so far in the IETF (hence the use of "Specifically" below). I'm not sure adding more sub-categories (e.g., incident management) would be useful. == 3.5.1. YANG Module Classification The narrative sec

[OPSAWG]Re: [OPS-DIR]Opsdir ietf last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-09

2025-04-18 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Tina, Thank you for the review. Please see inline. Cheers, Med (as doc editor) > -Message d'origine- > De : Tina Tsou via Datatracker > Envoyé : vendredi 18 avril 2025 10:18 > À : ops-...@ietf.org > Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang@ietf.org; last- > c...@ietf.org; opsaw

[OPSAWG]Re: Gunter Van de Velde's No Objection on charter-ietf-opsawg-04-04: (with COMMENT)

2025-04-15 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Arnaud, Agree the point you mentioned is a valid pending issue. That was ACKed in draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-20#section-5.1. OPSAWG is definitely the main entry point for TACACS+. Whether the work will be pursued here depends on the availability of a contribution (which we don't have

[OPSAWG]Mohamed Boucadair's Yes on charter-ietf-opsawg-04-04

2025-04-14 Thread Mohamed Boucadair via Datatracker
Mohamed Boucadair has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-opsawg-04-04: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along

[OPSAWG]Re: Gunter Van de Velde's No Objection on charter-ietf-opsawg-04-04: (with COMMENT)

2025-04-14 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Gunter, There are many OPS-related protocols out there for which we don't have a home (IPFIX, DIAMETER, etc.). OPSAWG should not be the place to develop major changes (e.g. new versions) of these protocols. For example, we used to have opsawg be tagged as maintenance group for RADIUS (http

[OPSAWG]Re: [GROW] Fwd: RFC5706bis => draft-opsarea-rfc5706bis posted

2025-04-10 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Tom, As indicated by Benoît, the document is listed under opsarea: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/opsarea/documents/ We don't list it in opsawg as we want to uplevel this effort and not "restricted" to a single WG. We are using opsawg mailing list for convenience. Thank you. Cheers,

[OPSAWG]Re: [GROW] Fwd: RFC5706bis => draft-opsarea-rfc5706bis posted

2025-04-10 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Adrian, I have considered that but abandoned that path because that list is almost "stale" since years. That’s something we can fix, but another day :-) What is really key here IMO is to have a discussion venue where we are confident that we have active participation. OPSAWG (which is the ar

[OPSAWG]Re: [GROW] Fwd: RFC5706bis => draft-opsarea-rfc5706bis posted

2025-04-10 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Re-, I hear you Tom, but there few subtle things that we inherited. For example, intarea is a **formal WG** that has a charter that can adopt documents. Opsarea is an AG. I won't dive much more into those things and will focus more on this part of your message: > I have looked at the I-D and

[OPSAWG]AD review of draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13

2025-04-09 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Doug, all, In preparation for the forthcoming IETF LC, I made my AD review based on -19. Unsurprisingly, the document is stable enough. There are some very minor nits that I suggest to fix to save us some comments in the last mile. Please clean up unused refs (there are mentioned in the revi

[OPSAWG]Re: OPSAWG recharrting

2025-04-05 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Benoît, all, Thanks for starting this. Please find below some comments: (1) I think that we need to have text to formally endorse the dispatch function for the ops area. (2) I would simplify this part as the message seems to be redundant: "The OPSAWG will serve as the forum for developing s

[OPSAWG]Re: [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-18

2025-04-05 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Russ, You should have a “correct review” button under “review” (Assignment) at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-18-secdir-lc-housley-2025-03-08/ Cheers Med De : Russ Housley Envoyé : jeudi 3 avril 2025 19:28 À : Joe Clarke (jclarke) Cc : Douglas Gash (dcmgash)

[OPSAWG]Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-gtpu-04.txt

2025-04-03 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Sriram, all, (as a contributor) Thank you for taking of the changes. Special thanks for the mention about the checksum, in particular. I think that this version is ready to move forward. Thanks for the hard work. Cheers, Med De : Sriram Gopalakrishnan (sriragop) Envoyé : vendredi 4 avril

[OPSAWG]Re: WG LC: TACACS+ TLS and its YANG module (draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13 & draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang)

2025-04-01 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Joe, The new version with your comments addressed is now online. Please double check and let me know if any other change is needed. Thanks. Cheers, Med De : Joe Clarke (jclarke) Envoyé : mardi 1 avril 2025 14:50 À : opsawg@ietf.org Objet : [OPSAWG]Re: WG LC: TACACS+ TLS and its YANG module

[OPSAWG]Re: Guy Harris' IPR statement: Re: IPR POLL: draft-ietf-opsawg-pcaplinktype : Link-Layer Types for PCAP and PCAPNG Capture File Formats

2025-04-01 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Benoît, all, I think that waiting 2 months with many nudges in the mailing list and privately is sufficient as a clear evidence that "reasonable efforts" have been made to remind authors. As a remind, here is what is we supposed to do: == 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all

[OPSAWG]Re: RFC5706 (Refresh): Guidelines for Considering Operations and Management

2025-04-01 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Benoît, Thank you for the interest and also for digging into the practicalities. Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Benoit Claise Envoyé : mardi 1 avril 2025 15:31 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET ; ops-...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org; adr...@olddog.co.uk Cc : Carlos Pignataro ; me Objet :

[OPSAWG]Re: [OPS-DIR]RFC5706 (Refresh): Guidelines for Considering Operations and Management

2025-04-01 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Adrian, Thank you. Yes, turning 5706 into an I-D will be the next step. I will be sharing some more guidance in the coming few days. Cheers, Med De : Adrian Farrel Envoyé : mardi 1 avril 2025 13:08 À : chen@zte.com.cn; BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET Cc : ops-...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.or

[OPSAWG]Re: [OPS-DIR]RFC5706 (Refresh): Guidelines for Considering Operations and Management

2025-03-31 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Ran, Glad to hear that you are interested. Having Adrian on board is more than welcome (he is familiar with at least two candidate change items), but he has to express interest :-) Cheers, Med De : chen@zte.com.cn Envoyé : lundi 31 mars 2025 03:21 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET Cc :

[OPSAWG]Re: RFC5706 (Refresh): Guidelines for Considering Operations and Management

2025-03-31 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Joe, Good points. Looking forward to see how this will be elaborated in the bis. Will share by the end of the week the final list of volunteers and a plan to conduct this project. Thanks. Cheers, Med De : Joe Clarke (jclarke) Envoyé : dimanche 30 mars 2025 01:00 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV

[OPSAWG]Re: RFC5706 (Refresh): Guidelines for Considering Operations and Management

2025-03-28 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Re-, Thanks, Carlos. That’s indeed an item to explore. One comment though, for opsdir, my current take is to have a simplified template (not frozen in an RFC) with key topics. Let me not tease too much here :-) Hope we will have some thing to share SOON. Cheers, Med De : Carlos Pignataro Env

[OPSAWG]RFC5706 (Refresh): Guidelines for Considering Operations and Management

2025-03-28 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi all, 15 years after the publication of this important document, I think that it is time to consider a refresh. I'm sending this note to gauge interest and hopefully find volunteers to explore this path with the aim to produce a bis. Areas that can be easily revisited are: * More clari

[OPSAWG]Re: draft-ietf-opsawg-discardmodel

2025-03-27 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi all, +1 Changes to the IM in the future do not necessarily imply that both the control/flow parts will be impacted. Even if both were impacted (e.g., simple augmentations to the CP/flow), nothing prevent to publish those in a single document even if we go for option 2 now. Cheers, Med (as

[OPSAWG]Re: OPSAWG recharrting

2025-03-26 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Re, Thanks Joe for the follow-up. The siloed/lack of engagements for some topics is not related to the dispatch nature but that sometimes small groups are only interested in their documents. We may experiment in the future clustering and moving to short-lived WGs. We should not be frightened b

[OPSAWG]Re: Yangdoctors last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-05

2025-03-18 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Reshad, Thank you for the review. Glad to hear that. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Reshad Rahman via Datatracker > Envoyé : mercredi 19 mars 2025 03:03 > À : yang-doct...@ietf.org > Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang@ietf.org; > opsawg@ietf.org > Objet : Yangdo

[OPSAWG]Mail regarding draft-lin-opsawg-ipfix-quic-header

2025-03-17 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Dear Authors, As mentioned in the session, I think this is a valid work but it needs to better define the concept of QUIC flow first (and then better the usage of various IEs with a flow perspective). Also, I encourage the authors to read RFC 9312. Thank you. Cheers, Med _

[OPSAWG]Re: Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-collected-data-manifest-05

2025-03-12 Thread mohamed . boucadair
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[OPSAWG]Re: [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-18

2025-03-10 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Russ, The last part of your clarification reflects the intent here. I agree this should be clearly formulated in the doc. I trust the authors will follow up with proposed changes SOON. Cheers, Med (as doc Shepherd) > -Message d'origine- > De : Russ Housley > Envoyé : dimanche 9 ma

[OPSAWG]Re: WG LC: TACACS+ TLS and its YANG module (draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13 & draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang)

2025-03-09 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Authors, all, The authors addressed the comments I raised in the first WGLC: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/opsawg/CXMtDH_GWRlZfCRhKhggA4zapuA/ There are still some minor nits/edits as shown in the review below: * pdf: https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/blob/master

[OPSAWG]Re: Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13-18

2025-03-09 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Russ, Please see inline. Cheers, Med (as doc Shepherd) > -Message d'origine- > De : Russ Housley via Datatracker > Envoyé : dimanche 9 mars 2025 02:17 > À : sec...@ietf.org > Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13@ietf.org; last-c...@ietf.org; > opsawg@ietf.org > Objet : Secdir las

[OPSAWG]Re: Shepherd procedural review

2025-03-08 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Joe Clarke (jclarke) Envoyé : vendredi 7 mars 2025 17:37 À : draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-y...@ietf.org Cc : opsawg@ietf.org Objet : Shepherd procedural review As I work through the shepherd write-up, I have questions: * Has this module been im

[OPSAWG]Re: WGLC/Shepherd comments for TACACS+ TLS YANG (draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang)

2025-03-08 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Re-, Good catch. Please see https://github.com/boucadair/secure-tacacs-yang/pull/13/files Thanks. Cheers, Med De : Joe Clarke (jclarke) Envoyé : vendredi 7 mars 2025 17:19 À : Joe Clarke (jclarke) ; opsawg@ietf.org Objet : [OPSAWG]Re: WGLC/Shepherd comments for TACACS+ TLS YANG (draft-ietf-o

[OPSAWG]Re: WGLC/Shepherd comments for TACACS+ TLS YANG (draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang)

2025-03-08 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Joe, Thanks you the review. Good points. These are fixed as you can see in this diff: https://boucadair.github.io/secure-tacacs-yang/#go.draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang.diff Please see inline for more context. Cheers, Med De : Joe Clarke (jclarke) Envoyé : vendredi 7 mars 2025 16:57

[OPSAWG]Re: Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-collected-data-manifest-05

2025-03-06 Thread mohamed . boucadair
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[OPSAWG]Re: IPR POLL: draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang : A YANG Data Model for Terminal Access Controller Access-Control System Plus (TACACS+)

2025-02-27 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Joe, all, No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Cheers, Med De : Joe Clarke (jclarke) Envoyé : jeudi 27 février 2025 17:35 À : opsawg@ietf.org; draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-y...@ietf.org Objet : IPR POLL: draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang : A YANG Data Model for Ter

[OPSAWG]Re: [neotec] Welcome to give comments for Neotec charter

2025-01-31 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Chongfeng, Linda, all, (ccing CATS/OPSAWG as the current proposed scope seems to overlap with the work in these WGs) Thank you for starting this proposal. I thought that the email discussion we had clarified the relationship with existing WGs, but I'm afraid that the current work descriptio

[OPSAWG]Re: [yang-doctors] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-04

2025-01-28 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Bo, all, The proposed update to vrf-instance looks good to me (modulo inversing the order of must/description). Thanks. Cheers, Med De : Wubo (lana) Envoyé : dimanche 26 janvier 2025 09:56 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET ; Reshad Rahman ; yang-doct...@ietf.org Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-secure

[OPSAWG]Re: [yang-doctors] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-04

2025-01-23 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Mahesh, The point raised by Reshad is a valid one, for sure. My point is that whatever decision we will be making here, it has to also consider the 7134 where all these is rooted. The system yang has the following: leaf address { type inet:host;

[OPSAWG]Re: [yang-doctors] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-04

2025-01-23 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Reshad, Thank you for this review. Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Reshad Rahman Envoyé : mercredi 22 janvier 2025 23:32 À : yang-doct...@ietf.org Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org Objet : Re: [yang-doctors] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-o

[OPSAWG]Re: Paul Wouters' No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-common-ac-14: (with COMMENT)

2025-01-21 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Paul, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Paul Wouters via Datatracker > Envoyé : mardi 21 janvier 2025 21:52 > À : The IESG > Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-common...@ietf.org; opsawg- > cha...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org; rro...@ciena.com; > rro...@ciena.com >

[OPSAWG]Re: Paul Wouters' No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-attachment-circuit-19: (with COMMENT)

2025-01-21 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Paul, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Paul Wouters via Datatracker > Envoyé : mardi 21 janvier 2025 22:07 > À : The IESG > Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-attachment-circ...@ietf.org; opsawg- > cha...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org; > luismiguel.contrerasmuri...@t

[OPSAWG]Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: Publishing End-Site Prefix Lengths

2025-01-21 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi all, This document solves a real problem. I support adoption. Cheers, Med PS: When reviewing the document for this call, I figured out that I might be aware of an IPR that might cover this contribution. I will double check internally and, if my assessment is confirmed, a formal disclosure w

[OPSAWG]Re: Erik Kline's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-ntw-attachment-circuit-15: (with COMMENT)

2025-01-21 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Erik, > ## Comments > > ### S5.4 > > * Should there be any mention of Provider Backbone Bridging (PBB) > in here, > or would that go somewhere else as a network operations > implementation > detail? That's more a service that can be bound to ACs. Some PBB matters on PEs are already cov

[OPSAWG]Re: Erik Kline's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-attachment-circuit-19: (with COMMENT)

2025-01-21 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Erik, Thanks for the comments. Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Erik Kline via Datatracker > Envoyé : lundi 20 janvier 2025 22:19 > À : The IESG > Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-attachment-circ...@ietf.org; opsawg- > cha...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org; > lui

[OPSAWG]Re: Gunter Van de Velde's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-attachment-circuit-19: (with COMMENT)

2025-01-20 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Re-, Thanks for the comments. Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Gunter Van de Velde via Datatracker > Envoyé : lundi 20 janvier 2025 13:49 > À : The IESG > Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-attachment-circ...@ietf.org; opsawg- > cha...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org; >

[OPSAWG]Re: Gunter Van de Velde's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-ac-lxsm-lxnm-glue-13: (with COMMENT)

2025-01-20 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Gunter, Thanks for the review. I like your edited text. I adopted it with some very few adjustments as you can see in the diff: https://author-tools.ietf.org/api/iddiff?url_1=https://boucadair.github.io/attachment-circuit-model/draft-ietf-opsawg-ac-lxsm-lxnm-glue.txt&url_2=https://boucadai

[OPSAWG]Re: Orie Steele's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-common-ac-14: (with COMMENT)

2025-01-19 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Orie, Thank you for the review. Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Orie Steele via Datatracker > Envoyé : vendredi 17 janvier 2025 23:57 > À : The IESG > Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-common...@ietf.org; opsawg- > cha...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org; rro...@ci

[OPSAWG]Re: Gunter Van de Velde's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-common-ac-14: (with COMMENT)

2025-01-17 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Gunter, Thank you for the comments. I adopted most of your suggested edits as you can see at: https://author-tools.ietf.org/api/iddiff?url_1=https://boucadair.github.io/attachment-circuit-model/draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-common-ac.txt&url_2=https://boucadair.github.io/attachment-circuit-model/g

[OPSAWG]Re: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-attachment-circuit-19: (with COMMENT)

2025-01-15 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Éric, Thank you for the review. Please see inline. Cheers, Med Orange Restricted > -Message d'origine- > De : Éric Vyncke via Datatracker > Envoyé : mardi 14 janvier 2025 17:16 > À : The IESG > Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-attachment-circ...@ietf.org; opsawg- > cha...@ietf.org;

[OPSAWG]Re: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-common-ac-14: (with COMMENT)

2025-01-14 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Re-, Thanks for clarifying. Added new text to cover these two points: https://github.com/boucadair/attachment-circuit-model/commit/f11efbc5400ce5c4106ce4b57056fde4c8765bc1 The full changes can be tracked using the link shared in my first reply: https://author-tools.ietf.org/api/iddiff?url_1=ht

[OPSAWG]Re: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-common-ac-14: (with COMMENT)

2025-01-14 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Éric, Thank you for the review. Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Éric Vyncke via Datatracker > Envoyé : lundi 13 janvier 2025 17:43 > À : The IESG > Cc : draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-common...@ietf.org; opsawg- > cha...@ietf.org; opsawg@ietf.org; rro...@ciena

[OPSAWG]Re: Liaison statement between IETF and 3GPP on GTP-U

2025-01-10 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Re-, Your understanding is correct. Let’s then proceed as you recommended. Thank you for sharing this useful info. Would be worth to factor some if this in a rfc3113-bis. Cheers, Med De : Lionel Morand Envoyé : vendredi 10 janvier 2025 10:35 À : Lionel Morand ; BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET ;

[OPSAWG]Re: Liaison statement between IETF and 3GPP on GTP-U

2025-01-10 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Salut Lionel, I know that you are more familiar than me about 3GPP, but my concern is that I’m afraid that if we tag it as “for information” this will be simply noted and we won’t get any useful feedback (including, “we detected no deviation with our spec”). The initial motivation that trigger

[OPSAWG]Re: Liaison statement between IETF and 3GPP on GTP-U

2025-01-09 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi all, I think the “purpose” should be changed to “for action” as we are asking for checks against authoritative 3GPP specs, in particular. Cheers, Med De : Charles Eckel (eckelcu) Envoyé : vendredi 10 janvier 2025 01:07 À : Joe Clarke (jclarke) Cc : Peter Schmitt ; Lionel Morand ; Kaippall

[OPSAWG]Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-gtpu-03.txt

2025-01-09 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Sriram, all, Thank you for taking care of some of the comments I raised in my review. I checked the 00/03 diff and I think that the text is improved. I do still think that we need some discussion on the pending points: * Should we add a statement about the base 3GPP release used to defi

[OPSAWG]Re: [Last-Call] Re: Opsdir telechat review of draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-attachment-circuit-18

2025-01-09 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Adrian, Thank you for the follow-up. I merged these changes right now and also reflected some of them in the other documents of the AC I-Ds set. Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Adrian Farrel > Envoyé : mercredi 8 janvier 2025 19:04 > À : BOUCADAIR Mo

[OPSAWG]Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: A YANG Data Model for Network Diagnosis using Scheduled Sequences of OAM Tests

2025-01-08 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi all, I reviewed this document in the past: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/opsawg/TH0ks0KsZTeZbu2MRIUBsCtcSXo/. The authors addressed some of them, but there are still some that I think are still pending. Also, it is not clear yet how the use of schema-mount is envisaged here, but I

[OPSAWG]Re: REVIEW: Liaison statement to 3GPP for GTP-U IPFIX work

2025-01-08 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Joe, That was also my concern. I think that it is better to simply remove that para. Thank you. Cheers, Med De : Joe Clarke (jclarke) Envoyé : mercredi 8 janvier 2025 14:51 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET ; opsawg@ietf.org Objet : Re: REVIEW: Liaison statement to 3GPP for GTP-U IPFIX work

[OPSAWG]Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-collected-data-manifest-05

2025-01-08 Thread Mohamed Boucadair via Datatracker
Reviewer: Mohamed Boucadair Review result: Has Issues Thank you for the effort put into this document. This specification proposes an approach to supply (and store) required context information to help interpreting telemetry data. It does so by leveraging existing tools (e.g., yang mount). This

[OPSAWG]Re: Opsdir telechat review of draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-attachment-circuit-18

2025-01-07 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Adrian, Many thanks for the review. A diff to track the changes can be found here: https://author-tools.ietf.org/api/iddiff?url_1=https://boucadair.github.io/attachment-circuit-model/draft-ietf-opsawg-teas-attachment-circuit.txt&url_2=https://boucadair.github.io/attachment-circuit-model/opsd

[OPSAWG]Re: REVIEW: Liaison statement to 3GPP for GTP-U IPFIX work

2025-01-07 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Joe, all, Thanks for taking care of the LS. You my find some edits/comments at https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/raw/refs/heads/master/2025/The%20IETF%20Operations%20and%20Management%20Area%20Working%20Group-rev%20Med.docx, fwiw. Cheers, Med De : Joe Clarke (jclarke) Envoy

[OPSAWG]Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-04.txt

2024-12-19 Thread mohamed . boucadair
he Operations and Management Area Working > Group (OPSAWG) WG of the IETF. > >Title: A YANG Data Model for Terminal Access Controller > Access-Control System Plus (TACACS+) >Authors: Mohamed Boucadair > Bo Wu > Guangying Zheng > M

[OPSAWG]Re: [neotec] Re: NeoTec:Relation with AC/OPSAWG

2024-12-18 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Re-, Intuitively, the diff would be the difference between the two services that will be provided by a network to a cloud infra vs. cloud infra to network. If there are no specifics, this would be a simple interco between two networks. Identifying these specifics is actually a homework for neot

[OPSAWG]Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-gtpu-02.txt

2024-12-18 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Benoît, I was referring to updating the description **IEs defined in this document**. These IEs belong to a WG-adopted document and as such the WG has control over the content. Aligning what was pre-registered vs. the consensus of the WG is simple logistic and will follow usual involvement o

[OPSAWG]Re: [neotec] Re: NeoTec:Relation with AC/OPSAWG

2024-12-17 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Linda, (I saw your other message, which I think is not accurate in some parts such as decentralized nature, etc.) Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Linda Dunbar Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2024 02:04 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET ; Chongfeng Xie Cc : neotec ; opsawg ; sunqiong Obj

[OPSAWG]Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-gtpu-02.txt

2024-12-17 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Sriram, I didn’t check this version against my comments, but I’m reacting to this part of your message: == Since the IEs mentioned in the draft (Sec-5) are already published by the IANA and is available in https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipfix/ipfix.xhtml, we did not change the description

[OPSAWG]Re: [neotec] NeoTec:Relation with AC/OPSAWG

2024-12-16 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Chongfeng, Thanks for the follow-up. I expect neotec to produce service models. As you rightfully mentioned, correlating with the underlying ACs will be required to deliver the (bidir?) services. Please note that the ACaaS is not between network devices but between peer controllers/orchest

[OPSAWG]Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-03.txt

2024-12-16 Thread mohamed . boucadair
r Terminal Access Controller > Access-Control System Plus (TACACS+) >Authors: Mohamed Boucadair > Bo Wu > Guangying Zheng > Michael Wang >Name:draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-03.txt >Pages: 46 >Dates: 2024-12-16

[OPSAWG]draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang: RFC9105 broken example

2024-12-15 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi all, We didn't initially include the 9105 example at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9105#name-example-tacacs-authenticati in draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang because we wanted to have an example with TLS use. However, when reviewing the 9105 example it appeared that it has sev

[OPSAWG]Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-secure-tacacs-yang-02.txt

2024-12-12 Thread mohamed . boucadair
orking > Group (OPSAWG) WG of the IETF. > >Title: A YANG Data Model for Terminal Access Controller > Access-Control System Plus (TACACS+) >Authors: Mohamed Boucadair > Bo Wu > Guangying Zheng > Michael Wang >Name

[OPSAWG]Re: CALL FOR ADOPTION: A YANG Model for Terminal Access Controller Access-Control System Plus (TACACS+) over TLS 1.3

2024-12-12 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Re-, This is because there was a bug in -00. For some reason, the module was not included but only the path: "{::include-fold ./yang/ietf-system-secure-tacacs.yang}" Cheers, Med De : Joe Clarke (jclarke) Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2024 18:38 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET ; opsawg@ietf.org O

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