Hi Adrian,

Thank you.

Yes, turning 5706 into an I-D will be the next step. I will be sharing some 
more guidance in the coming few days.

Cheers,
Med

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Hi all,

If Ran is prepared to do the hard work, I’d be OK to help shape the work.

Next step would be, I suppose, to turn 5706 into a new I-D that we can work 
with.

Adrian

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Hi Med,

I would be happy to work on this if Adrian will work with me to bring ideas 
from RFC 6123 and make the English and terminology right.



Best Regards,

Ran


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Hi all,

15 years after the publication of this important document, I think that it is 
time to consider a refresh.

I’m sending this note to gauge interest and hopefully find volunteers to 
explore this path with the aim to produce a bis. Areas that can be easily 
revisited are:


  *   More clarity on the terminology and leverage the work led by Adrian in 
NMOP
  *   IM part
  *   More guidance on the importance of DMs
  *   Soften the MIB part
  *   Add more YANG
  *   Consider if we can generalize the approach in RFC6123 (edited by Adrian)

Suggestions/thoughts are welcome.

Cheers,
Med

PS: Thanks Carlos for planting the seed in my head.

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