does iked support client-mode EAP MSCHAP-V2?

2017-04-30 Thread lists
I'm a little unclear from reading through the docs - does iked currently support authentication via MSCHAP-V2 as a roadwarrior (client-mode)? This would be for use with an external VPN provider, which typically provide you with a username/password combination to use. Thanks!

Re: OT: Recommendations for a CMS?

2017-05-07 Thread lists
Sun, 7 May 2017 12:24:32 -0400 Paul Suh > Folks, > > Completely off topic, but I'd value input from this community in > particular. I need to recommend a (replacement) CMS for the > public-facing web site for my day job. > [...] > Suggestions? Hi Paul, There is, actually nothing OpenBSD specif

Re: How are people dealing with the Intel AMT BIOS vulnerability/backdoor?

2017-05-24 Thread lists
Hi Theodoros, techay, misc@ It is not only this particular system board firmware replacement project, that will show you exactly the same sentiment in appreciation for most of the manufacturer provided basic system bootstrap and management software: https://libreboot.org/faq.html#hardware-compati

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-10 Thread lists
Sun, 11 Jun 2017 00:43:19 +0200 Marc Espie > On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 12:55:04PM +0200, Nicolas Schmidt wrote: > > > > >> On 06/09/17 15:39, SOUL_OF_ROOT 55 wrote: > > >> Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system? > > > > > > You? No, I doubt it. > > ... > > > But, you are welcome, and invit

Re: Get an MAC address of a LAN PC - OpenBSD

2017-06-23 Thread lists
Fri, 23 Jun 2017 15:22:09 -0500 Vijay Sankar > Early this morning I sent a private message to the OP to understand > why he was asking this question. It looked from his reply that the > objective was to find whether someone had entered the same IP address > on different workstations and accessed s

Re: gpu for desktop

2017-06-23 Thread lists
Fri, 23 Jun 2017 15:58:53 + Mike Coddington > On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 02:14:26PM +0200, Krzysztof Strzeszewski wrote: > > Hello, > > > > how to bay good GPU card pcie for desktop OpenBSD with hardware > > acceleration? > > > > Krzych > > In addition to the useful advice that Elke gave, I'

possible xbacklight regression

2017-07-06 Thread lists
Hello all I've noticed a possible regression on a thinkpad t420 regarding xbacklight on -current. $ xbacklight -set 40 No outputs have backlight property $ xbacklight -get No outputs have backlight property I saw a post on cvs@ (https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=149928661821928&w=2) that could

Re: Read sysctl from file

2017-07-21 Thread lists
Fri, 21 Jul 2017 12:33:31 -0700 Peter Faiman > # ./sysctl -p example.conf > Peter Hi Peter, ansibles, No guarantee systems controls stay affixed, wrapper tools comply got it? Wrap around as advised for a system operator, don't push for short cuts. Please, stop imposing your designs on our system

Re: NFS keeps crashing

2018-04-21 Thread lists
Sat, 21 Apr 2018 06:31:33 + MB > Why are you using ooenbsd for anything but a firewall. Even then its > lagging way behind unless you deploying in a dentist office. Openbsd sucks > at pretty much everything else. Sorry I come from corporate real world > experience not Soho stuff. Use Linux.

Re: NFS keeps crashing

2018-04-21 Thread lists
Sat, 21 Apr 2018 18:38:11 +0300 IL Ka > > I mean sponsors who pay for projects and compatibility updates. I also > mean broader user base. > > IMHO: > To increase userbase and attract > serious sponsors attention, OpenBSD needs to be converted > to "friendly-for-non-IT-people" OS like Ubuntu.

Re: NFS keeps crashing

2018-04-21 Thread lists
quot; are of no use. Communicate with others (on the mailing lists or any other forum where knowledgeable users congregate) to confirm that the problem is new and preferably repeatable. Please try to make sure it is not a local problem created by using broken or unsupported hardware, or by using

Re: NFS keeps crashing

2018-04-22 Thread lists
Sun, 22 Apr 2018 03:30:50 -0400 Rupert Gallagher > Read again, you will find everything you need to reproduce the problem. Rupert, YOU have problems reproducing - PEBKAC your end. NFS works here.

Re: CPU Affinity

2018-04-29 Thread lists
Sun, 29 Apr 2018 22:07:18 -0300 "Elias M. Mariani" > Hi, > I was trying to port mprime to OpenBSD. > The main issue is not finding any way to set affinity on cores. > Searching for how to do this on OpenBSD bring this result in undeadly: > http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20090324210236

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-15 Thread lists
Tue, 15 May 2018 19:47:45 +0200 x...@dr.com > The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and > usability on my phone when I add it to http://man.openbsd.org pages: Hi anonymous, Could you please add it on some public space so I can check in Dillo too? Kind regards, Anton Lazarov

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-15 Thread lists
Tue, 15 May 2018 20:46:44 +0200 x...@dr.com > > Tue, 15 May 2018 19:47:45 +0200 x...@dr.com > > > The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and > > > usability on my phone when I add it to http://man.openbsd.org pages: > > > > Hi anonymous, > > > > Could you please add it on

Re: MIMO in athn(4)

2018-05-16 Thread lists
Sun, 13 May 2018 11:07:19 +0500 Артур Истомин > On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 10:53:29PM +1000, tomr wrote: > > > > I've been playing with an apu2 and an AR9280, which is supported by athn(4). > > > > It seems to perform terribly when I connect a second antenna. Is this > > the expected behaviour curr

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-21 Thread lists
Fri, 18 May 2018 02:47:29 +0200 Ingo Schwarze > Hi Aner, > > Aner Perez wrote on Thu, May 17, 2018 at 06:32:44PM -0400: > > On 05/17/2018 05:22 PM, x...@dr.com wrote: > >> "Ingo Schwarze" wrote: > > >>> Absolutely not. > >>> Mandoc output is not optimized for any device. > >>> > >>> Which e

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-19 Thread lists
Tue, 19 Jun 2018 09:59:45 -0700 Jordan Geoghegan > Have you considered one of the Librem laptops by Purism? I hear they're > quite nice, and are running coreboot straight from the factory. The pinnacle of bullshit talk, utter nonsense, no technical value at all. > Tue, 19 Jun 2018 06:37:18 -040

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread lists
Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:01:42 + (UTC) Robert Gilaard > I am just researching this as well and have settled on the Dell Hi Robert, Rupert, Email coming from Yahoo is flagged as phishing scam, wastes time digging. This is unacceptable advice, something very wrong with the advertisement. Search f

Re: Partitioning recommendations for 6.3?

2018-06-26 Thread lists
Mon, 25 Jun 2018 14:37:32 + John Long > On Mon, 2018-06-25 at 17:16 +0300, IL Ka wrote: > > Do you want to really build all ports or just fetch skeletons and > > build some of them? > > Not sure, but I don't want to rule out building them all for a couple > or reasons. I have a new box whic

Re: Partitioning recommendations for 6.3?

2018-06-26 Thread lists
Tue, 26 Jun 2018 20:27:53 + John Long > > Ideally, the auto partition could have templates, for the cases you > > have. > > I think this is a good idea but I guess a lot of people will bang you > on the head for suggesting it ;) > I don't know that I have ever seen the one-size fits all

Re: New laptop recommendations

2018-06-26 Thread lists
Tue, 26 Jun 2018 15:47:31 -0400 Rupert Gallagher > What crap is this? YOURS. What you put into a system is what you get from the same system..

Re: ISDN Card /PRI Card support on OpenBSD

2018-07-12 Thread lists
Wed, 11 Jul 2018 21:15:59 + (UTC) Stuart Henderson > On 2018-07-11, Tom Smyth wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > this is an odd one but I have a client that needs to > > migrate some legacy services > > Is there support for ISDN type interfaces in OpenBSD ? > > > > man / apropos shows nothing > >

Re: Offline FAQ

2018-07-19 Thread lists
Thu, 19 Jul 2018 03:57:17 -0700 Ahmed Khanzada > Hello, > > I am a programmer with a strong passion for both documentation and offline > computing. Inspired by 9front, I was wondering if there was any interest > in porting the currently online-only FAQ to an offline FAQ format that could > perhap

Re: SuperMicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2018-08-17 Thread lists
Fri, 17 Aug 2018 06:23:23 + Rupert Gallagher > Using the serial over lan console, the keyboard keeps working, and it is > possible to enter the shell. Using the standard console, the keyboard does > not work. There is plenty of drivers that need to be written. No, I do not > write/port driv

Re: SuperMicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2018-08-17 Thread lists
Fri, 17 Aug 2018 11:15:32 + Rupert Gallagher > FUD > > Sent from total and utter ignorance. Rupert, Plus the dmesg you posted is by the RAM disk installation OpenBSD kernel. You Should complete an actual OpenBSD installation to get the full dmesg. > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:24, wrote: >

Re: SuperMicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2018-08-17 Thread lists
Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:48:52 + Rupert Gallagher > This is a really nice board at a really nice price, and you should > stop scaring people off. These Atoms are cleaner than both Cores and > Xeons, and AMDs have have their fair share of problems. Citin g > C2000 against the latest C3000 is FUD.

Re: SuperMicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2018-08-18 Thread lists
Sat, 18 Aug 2018 08:29:33 + Rupert Gallagher > Orher architectures are explicitly known for being bugged, but this > did not stop the developers. Hi Rupert, Enough already, just post a full dmesg when you can. The hardware is not perfect, watch out for unfixed CPU bugs as these are soldered

Re: SuperMicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2018-08-18 Thread lists
Sat, 18 Aug 2018 12:28:17 + Rupert Gallagher > I am not complaining about obsd. > > I am complaining about your FUD on C3000 and your request for a > post-installation dmesg. No installation is possible for lack of disk > drivers. I do not develop/port drivers. The dmesgs I already posted > a

Re: SuperMicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2018-08-19 Thread lists
Sun, 19 Aug 2018 08:34:43 + Rupert Gallagher > Troll here... Rupert, > Step out of your nerdiness, and step into the real world with this scenario. A troll mini speaker calls real world their empty words on a mailing list. You are simply ignored. In fact, you send total nonsense all aroun

Re: Running your own mail server

2018-09-08 Thread lists
Sat, 8 Sep 2018 16:39:52 +0100 Kaya Saman > I agree here! > [snip] > That way you have a fully managed mail system right out of the box with Hi misc, Fully managed and VPS are incompatible. Also incompatible are: remote infrastructure and turnkey solutions without complete control of bits. The

Re: ~OT:In ksh,can bind ctrl+L to clear+redraw also wh. typing started,like in bash?

2018-11-02 Thread lists
Fri, 02 Nov 2018 15:38:17 + Tinker > On Friday, November 2, 2018 9:11 PM, Klemens Nanni wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 11:03:34AM +, Tinker wrote: > > > > > Could some other ^ shortcut be an ignore-this-line-from-history marker? > > > > I'm inclined to say no; HISTCONTROL=ignoresp

Re: ~OT:In ksh,can bind ctrl+L to clear+redraw also wh. typing started,like in bash?

2018-11-03 Thread lists
Sat, 03 Nov 2018 03:12:37 + Tinker > On Saturday, November 3, 2018 10:29 AM, Diogo Galvao > wrote: > > Em sex, 2 de nov de 2018 às 19:06, li...@wrant.com escreveu: > > > > > I use these bindings and history control options in the $HOME/.profile: > > > bind -m '^L'=^U\ clear'^J^Y' > > > bin

Re: How to test for FORTIFY_SOURCE?

2020-03-18 Thread lists
Wed, 18 Mar 2020 11:55:53 -0400 Jeffrey Walton > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 11:25 AM Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 10:59:21AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 4:26 AM Stuart Henderson > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2020-03-18, Je

Re: S3 Virge support on IBM T23 for 6.6

2020-04-15 Thread lists
Wed, 15 Apr 2020 23:26:44 +0200 Paolo Aglialoro > Thank you for the explanation, Otto. > > Is this a hint that soon i386 architecture will be deprecated? Hello Paolo, Considering that it's worth reading the reply without misinterpreting anything, it is here quoting this again: "What other OS m

Re: Logging in/out on console while logged in in X removes hardware acceleration

2020-08-02 Thread lists
Fri, 31 Jul 2020 17:36:53 +0200 Nils Reuße > Hi Theo, > > thank you for your reply. Well then, I guess I just stop switching > around between different login sessions ;) > > Nils > > > Am 31.07.2020 um 16:08 schrieb Theo de Raadt: > > I'm not sure what can be done about it. > > > > /etc/fbt

Re: Web documentation available offline by default?

2020-02-28 Thread lists
Fri, 28 Feb 2020 07:54:49 + Frank Beuth > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 07:24:50AM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > >Hi Frank, > > > >Frank Beuth wrote on Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 04:22:27AM +: > > > >> Is the web documentation (FAQ etc) included in the base system by > >> default anywhere, > > > >

Re: Which hardware to keep the level of trust ?

2015-09-27 Thread lists
Hi J-F, Please look around a bit more for a micro-controller mailing list, these need security and quality much more than expected. Please also do bring the OpenBSD on these platforms and hope for the best ideas come back here too. Regards, A

Re: Is OpenSMTPD worthy of OpenBSD inclusion?

2015-10-06 Thread lists
By now the thread starter should already be well aware that the correct thing would have been to ask for some comforting words the report from the third party code audit was and is going to result in further improvements. And then thank the developers for sharing the audit details, the work done s

Re: requesting help working around boot failures with supermicro atom board

2015-10-07 Thread lists
may have more than an idea how to fix this or improve the situation a bit further. Thanks everyone, and Dewey for raising this up. P.S. I have memories someone posted pointers for the watchdog enabling a while back on the mailing lists too (have not got to that yet, since this reboot long beep issue is more important). Regards, Anton

PF Queuing

2015-10-14 Thread lists
Hi Everyone, Under systat q, I see packets that are being dropped / trimmed by PF in my prioritized ack queue exceed my default queue. If I'm logged in and catch this happening I can usually identify the traffic which I don't want using that queue and add a match rule to pf.conf to push it into my

Re: mk.conf in examples?

2015-10-16 Thread lists
> > Should mk.conf(5) be present in /etc/examples, or is it not there on > > purpose? > > After hier(7): > > /etc/ System configuration files and scripts. > ... > examples/ Example configuration files for base system daemons. > > So I don't think so :^) While this may not be

Re: mk.conf in examples?

2015-10-17 Thread lists
he time, given su is enough already for them. So one option for a user in this case is to copy the example from the man page verbatim with a couple of tweaks (maybe), and that is if reasonable thinking (and time) permits it (pun intended). Then there are scattered blog posts and pseudo use case re

Re: mk.conf in examples?

2015-10-17 Thread lists
Hi Ingo, Thank you for taking the time to reply to my post too which I must say did appear a bit off and misplaced, since I cross posted (timing) before having chance to read your good posts, that pretty much explain it all. > > Is examples a good candidate for samples of everything etc that the

Re: It was twenty years ago you see...

2015-10-18 Thread lists
One happy user wishing everyone many more cycles! Heart warming stories of the 20 years of OpenBSD development. Theo de Raadt wrote: > The project is now at: > > ~322,000 commits > ~44 commits/day average > ~356 hackers through the years Thank you, Theo and friends for proving it's possible to

Re: requesting help working around boot failures with supermicro atom board

2015-10-21 Thread lists
Synopsis: if sensors show missing data then reset the BMC unit before rebooting the system to prevent unable to boot long beep issue. I found a reliably reproducible workaround for this problem retaining control continuity without the need to trip the mains breaker. This entirely prevents the lon

Re: OpenBSD 5.8 and IPv6 forwarding doesn't seem to be working

2015-10-28 Thread lists
On 10/28/2015 8:41 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: > Em 28-10-2015 02:29, Daniel Corbe escreveu: >> But I can't ping out or do anything on the client: >> >> C:\Users\dcorbe>ping ipv6.cybernode.com >> >> Pinging ipv6.cybernode.com [2001:470:1:1b9::31] with 32 bytes of data: >> Control-C >> ^C >> C:\U

Minor fix for events.html: closing a tag

2015-10-28 Thread lists
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:51:27 -0600 (MDT) Giovanni Bechis wrote: > CVSROOT: /cvs > Module name: www > Changes by: giova...@cvs.openbsd.org2015/10/28 12:51:27 > > Modified files: > . : events.html > > Log message: > I will give 2 talks at OpenSourceDay at the u

Re: Minor fix for events.html: closing a tag

2015-10-28 Thread lists
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:51:27 -0600 (MDT) Giovanni Bechis > wrote: > > > CVSROOT:/cvs > > Module name:www > > Changes by: giova...@cvs.openbsd.org2015/10/28 12:51:27 > > > > Modified files: > > . : events.html > > > > Log message: > > I will give 2 talks a

Lenovo x250 with current

2015-11-04 Thread lists
Hi Misc, Is anyone running the Lenovo x250 with current? If so, I have some question about screen brightness adjustment. Thanks, Jim

Re: Virtualization: vmm with Linux guests - when?

2015-11-17 Thread lists
> I know that development time is not a determinisc thing There is one very deterministic correlation though: contributions help realise goals. > nonetheless I'd like to know if it's closer to one, six, twelve (or > more) months until we get the possibility to run Linux guests > through v

Re: Virtualization: vmm

2015-11-19 Thread lists
> Thanks in advance for any info on this. http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man4/amd64/vmm.4 http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/arch/amd64/amd64/vmm.c

Re: Logging removal of dependent packages

2015-11-23 Thread lists
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:31:35 +0100 Marc Espie wrote: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 05:20:54PM +0200, li...@wrant.com wrote: > > Hi misc@ readers, Marc, > > > > Interactive removal of a package with pkg_delete $pkg_name also asks > > the removal of dependent packages (cool). > > > > This works OK an

Logging removal of dependent packages

2015-11-23 Thread lists
Hi misc@ readers, Marc, Interactive removal of a package with pkg_delete $pkg_name also asks the removal of dependent packages (cool). This works OK and logs the removal of the package $pkg_name in messages at the end of the procedure. But does not seem to log the removal of the packages that al

Re: Logging removal of dependent packages - disregard please

2015-11-23 Thread lists
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 20:56:58 +0100 Marc Espie wrote: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 08:10:01PM +0200, li...@wrant.com wrote: > > > > You're right Marc, I found these, sorry for the noise (duh): > > > > Nov 23 15:58:37 fire pkg_delete: Removed mcabber-0.10.3 > > Nov 23 15:58:38 fire pkg_delete: Remo

Re: Logging removal of dependent packages - disregard please

2015-11-24 Thread lists
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 01:01:59 +0200 Mihai Popescu wrote: > Too bad, pkg_* suite is using perl, if i remember ... Woenderful guest art awe ditto. Mass the Reading compression now your will. Not heart that must bee.

Re: Wireless PCI hardware

2015-11-27 Thread lists
> > What usb are you using as > > the ones i tried a while back weren't much good though there have been > > changes to the drivers since so probably worth trying again? USB wireless devices are usually quite flaky at the miniUSB connector end (or need re-soldering, and cables malfunction over tim

Re: retrieving pkg_add messages afterwards?

2015-12-06 Thread lists
> pkg_add-ing multiple packages, and pkg_add -u, lists out messages such > as "You should also run rm -fr /var/spool/clamav/*" at the end of a > batch. It is likely the message indicates the directory is non empty, so it's not automatically removed. This most probably is

Re: Mg and extensions.

2015-12-15 Thread lists
> > I have been an Emac user for 20 plus years, and I often look at mg to > > replace > > it. > > The functionality of mg is getting close. Hopefully, continues sanity prevail to over bloat feature, as been has doing continuously far so. There little merit is in rewriting the same thing to achie

Re: Wireless connection mystery two OpenBSD machines suddenly cannot connect

2015-12-16 Thread lists
> Mystery solved. The $3 transformer for the DSL modem is dying. If I > unplug it and let it cool off everything works again :) As you describe it, that may be the modem cooling off, instead or in addition to the adaptor. Or an electrolyte capacitor gone dry (in the modem itself). > Off to buy a

Re: Wireless connection mystery two OpenBSD machines suddenly cannot connect

2015-12-16 Thread lists
On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:05:12 -0700 "Jack J. Woehr" wrote: > li...@wrant.com wrote: > > The next suggestion is to check the modem as well and fix it with a couple > > of cents worth of capacitor(s). It is more > > likely the modem is source of the problem, especially if it is running a > > bit

Re: dpb build box performance suggestions.

2015-12-16 Thread lists
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 18:58:48 + Tati Chevron wrote: > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 01:01:51PM -0500, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote: > >I'm trying to dpb to maintain a small set of packages for a handfull > >of OpenBSD boxes that I run. These boxes will all be single purpose > >servers of some type

Re: dpb build box performance suggestions.

2015-12-17 Thread lists
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 23:45:43 -0500 Andre Smagin wrote: > On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 23:15:29 + > Tati Chevron wrote: > > > Really, have a look at the dependencies for ImageMagick, and ask yourself > > who really uses djvu, for example. Removing it and ghostscript reduces > > the dependencies from

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-20 Thread lists
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 10:51:20 + Tati Chevron wrote: > On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 05:34:59PM -0600, Luke Small > wrote: > > > >If installer GUIs are bad, maybe features like full-disk encryption > >could be accomplished via lynx-like text -based HTML and/or > >JavaScript that could write to cooki

Re: dotted lines flashing on the virtual terminal

2015-12-20 Thread lists
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:04:08 + "Read, James C" wrote: > Never seen this one before. Just done a clean base install of 5.8 > Got white lines of "dashes" flashing across my screen at urandom places. > Is this some kind of buffering problem? Probably video memory corruption or some similar pro

Re: Can't build kernel GENERIC.MP on Dell Inspiron E1045

2015-12-20 Thread lists
> Is there any benefit to install -current on this antique? Yes.

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-20 Thread lists
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 14:58:27 + Tati Chevron wrote: > On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 04:29:37PM +0200, li...@wrant.com wrote: > >On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 10:51:20 + Tati Chevron > >wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 05:34:59PM -0600, Luke Small > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >If installer GUIs are

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-20 Thread lists
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 14:03:18 -0600 Luke Small wrote: > I don't know the best way, but I like how there are "check-boxes", from > what I recall, in lynx webpages. And? Bookmarks or... direct private cumulus clouds of edible sugar, preferably in cyanide algae nuances with self attaching axons. >

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-21 Thread lists
> >> > Usability means then it should be not only humans but also programs > >> > who are able to interact with the installer. So, since stream editors > >> > know nothing about this seasons' (or Luddite's) line drawing symbols, > >> > and users barely see the information between these on another

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-21 Thread lists
> Luke Small > >[...] It would be very easy to write a C > >program to parse and edit fstab to make all the partitions softdep. I > >wouldn't know how to automate a disklabel call in the way that > >https://www.vultr.com/docs/setup-openbsd-5-6-with-full-disk-encryption > >perfo

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-21 Thread lists
> > Usability means then it should be not only humans but also programs > > who are able to interact with the installer. So, since stream editors > > know nothing about this seasons' (or Luddite's) line drawing symbols, > > and users barely see the information between these on another terminal > >

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-21 Thread lists
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 20:34:39 -0600 Luke Small > I haven't really done a fresh install since 4.8 . Not much point making installer suggestions then, you just don't use it. You complain your feel for a lack of hand holding experience in a fool proof solution would be the one to sort your problem.

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread lists
Tue, 22 Dec 2015 13:36:38 -0500 "Ted Unangst" > Tati Chevron wrote: > > I have never understood exactly why people have so much difficulty > > installing > > a recent OpenBSD system on an encrypted partition. > > > > Basically, you boot bsd.rd as normal, and drop to a shell. > > Which nobody

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread lists
Mon, 21 Dec 2015 09:03:09 -0600 Luke Small > I don't need a special need case. Your own use case is deviating from the minimum required to install the system in a supported by the installer way. And yes, you don't need a special "need" case (giggling). > I have already configured the system I n

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread lists
Mon, 21 Dec 2015 18:40:48 -0600 Luke Small > You are a normal user and have full disk encryption. You must have read the > man page on how to do that? Found the installer option did you. We're obviously missing your quick program you promised us for the installer. Why this polemic, instead of ro

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread lists
Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:35:39 + Tati Chevron > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:20:16PM +0200, li...@wrant.com wrote: > >Tue, 22 Dec 2015 13:36:38 -0500 "Ted Unangst" > >> Tati Chevron wrote: > >> > I have never understood exactly why people have so much difficulty > >> > installing > >> > a recen

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread lists
Whatever the encryption or other stake raising argument is found today or in the future, the point is, deviation from line oriented interfaces for the installer is not the way it can be handled by other systems, meaning it's not the least common denominator that lends itself to machine processing a

Re: libGL error: failed to open drm device: Permission denied

2015-12-28 Thread lists
Mon, 28 Dec 2015 00:25:25 +0200 Mihai Popescu > libGL error: failed to open drm device: Permission denied > libGL error: failed to load driver: r600 > > Is it normal, can it be fixed on my side? Quick and dirty hack around this (if your user is in group wheel): $ grep chmod .xinitrc sudo chmod

Re: Mg scroll-up issue in xterm

2015-12-28 Thread lists
ls in every other thread, Mr. Tati Chevron, looks more like an advertisement for your employment company in the email signature all over the place, on the OpenBSD mailing lists like a know it all but did not participate in it person. Please don't respond to this challenge, act accordingly.

Re: libGL error: failed to open drm device: Permission denied

2015-12-28 Thread lists
Mon, 28 Dec 2015 19:50:42 +0200 Mihai Popescu > But, that file is filled in for ttyC0 only, the tty that most users > are using it for login. But, giving the fact that I got some annoying > kernel messages from my connecting/disconnecting USB mouse with > aggresive power management routines, I was

Re: bandwidth usage limits with pf, etc.

2015-12-31 Thread Lists
pftop is what youbare looking for. pkg_add pftop > On Dec 31, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Mark Carroll wrote: > > I was wondering recently what the biggest bandwidth hogs were on my home > network at a certain moment. On Linux I use iftop on the router for > this, but I wonder in OpenBSD if, rather than

pfctl: DIOCGETQSTATS: Bad file descriptor

2016-01-10 Thread lists
Whenever running "doas pfctl -s queue -v" on a 5.8/amd64 box (PC engines apu1d4), it outputs the error "pfctl: DIOCGETQSTATS: Bad file descriptor". Has anyone seen this before? Both queuing and port filtering have been working without issue. Here's a 1:1 copy of the queuing section I'm running w

Re: pfctl: DIOCGETQSTATS: Bad file descriptor

2016-01-13 Thread lists
I haven't done anything other than binary releases in some time, although it's possible I may have fat fingered a terminal at some point. I infrequently check these boxes other than biannual release updates and mtier patches. The checksums and timestamps of /bsd and /sbin/pfctl match another worki

Re: PF: can't make queueing and priority work as expected

2016-01-20 Thread lists
Sat, 9 Jan 2016 17:45:01 +0200 Mihai Popescu > Where is the enlightment gone? In proofreading the queuing FAQ and updating the best current practice, thank Marko for bravely trying to understand and apply it with the risk of being insulted unjustly. Line 59 [http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvs

Re: Willing to help

2016-01-25 Thread lists
Mon, 25 Jan 2016 23:42:37 +0100 Ingo Schwarze > Some GSOC projects may still be relevant, but one has to admit that > it is rare that GSOC projects produce code that actually gets > committed. Even among those that succeeded, only a minority produced > code good enough to actually get used. If p

Re: Willing to help

2016-01-27 Thread lists
Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:51:09 -0600 Adam Thompson > On 16-01-26 10:32 AM, Peter Hessler wrote: > > On 2016 Jan 26 (Tue) at 08:13:22 -0600 (-0600), Edgar Pettijohn wrote: > > :> * adduser(8)/useradd(8): > > :> Needs to be unified into one single > > > > One binary, with symlinks. Both methods sh

Re: can't run multiple instances of httpd, flags not visible in processes

2016-01-28 Thread lists
Thu, 28 Jan 2016 18:52:18 +0100 Ingo Schwarze > I'd love to make the example more specific and document an actual > use case that frequently occurs in practice, but even though many > have said that such cases do occur, i can't think of any. I have this use case, and have not found quickly a bett

Re: I have a program I wish to submit for the base

2016-01-29 Thread lists
Fri, 29 Jan 2016 04:00:31 -0600 Luke Small > I wanted to use kqueue. Name another script or programming language that > offers it from the base install. NONE! Keep calm ;-) > Why should I write it in another language. I already did it in C. Is there > another way other than kqueue that you can w

Re: I have a program I wish to submit for the base

2016-01-29 Thread lists
Fri, 29 Jan 2016 08:19:14 + Nicholas Marriott > Firstly, I don't think we need this in base and I think there is little > to no chance of it being taken, even if the code is improved. Many folks tried this part (advising Luke), he takes none and keeps repeating wrong concepts, his assignment l

Re: I have a program I wish to submit for the base

2016-01-30 Thread lists
Fri, 29 Jan 2016 16:35:12 -0600 Luke Small > I have secure architectures with openbsd. Looks like public learning from a viewer's point, thanks for sharing your work so far. This is the right thing to show progress and ask reviews. Please try to very carefully listen what devs tell you, comment

Re: Making and using a release

2016-01-31 Thread lists
Sun, 31 Jan 2016 12:04:50 + Mark Carroll > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Release tells me at the end that, > > > ... if updating a machine to a new -stable, simply unpack the tar > > files in the root directory of the target machine. > > Am I right to worry that this approach wouldn

Re: pfctl: DIOCGETQSTATS: Bad file descriptor

2016-02-04 Thread lists
I found out what the issue was. As an example, this is valid with "pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf" but will throw "pfctl: DIOCGETQSTATS: Bad file descriptor" with "pfctl -s queue": queue test on egress bandwidth 1M default This works properly with "pfctl -s queue" as well: queue test on em0 bandwidth 1M

Re: Will Softraid RAID1 read from the fastest mirror/-s / supports user-specified device read priority order, nowadays? Takes broken disk out of use?

2016-02-16 Thread lists
Mon, 15 Feb 2016 22:03:13 +0100 Karel Gardas > > ..And therefore you need enterprise disks because they behave "cleanly", as > > when using those only, essentially full softraid QoS is maintained at all > > times. > > Interesting! I've understand Nick excellent email in completely > reversed se

Re: Will Softraid RAID1 read from the fastest mirror/-s / supports user-specified device read priority order, nowadays? Takes broken disk out of use?

2016-02-16 Thread lists
Tue, 16 Feb 2016 10:57:38 -0800 Chris Cappuccio > li...@wrant.com [li...@wrant.com] wrote: > > > > Plan for your use case, and consult the man page and respective source > > code on implementation details. And flash storage disks are still > > unreliable compared to spinning hard drives. > >

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

2016-02-16 Thread lists
nd talked about on > the OpenBSD mailing lists. As marketing bullshit, meaning, polluting OpenBSD mailing lists. > It's very important that everyone sees the true greatness of Richard > Stallman and the GNU project, without which, we would not have GNU > Hurd. Sarcast

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

2016-02-18 Thread lists
Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:12:58 -0500 Eric Furman > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016, at 09:10 PM, li...@wrant.com wrote: > > Wed, 17 Feb 2016 19:36:35 -0500 Eric Furman > > > Now I'm off to the GNU & Linux lists to s

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

2016-02-18 Thread lists
Wed, 17 Feb 2016 19:36:35 -0500 Eric Furman > Now I'm off to the GNU & Linux lists to spread the gospel of OpenBSD! Better, influence highly skilled programmers, friends, colleagues, partners, clients, the wide public, classmates, coeds, teachers, book authors and everyone important

Re: startx vs xdm

2016-02-18 Thread lists
Thu, 18 Feb 2016 21:44:08 +0100 Jan Stary > > My .Xdefaults is a symlink to .Xresources > > and .xsession is a symlink to .xinitrc. > > Why is that? Am I missing something obvious? $ grep xrdb .xinitrc [[ -f ~/.Xresources ]] && xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources [[ -f ~/.Xdefaults ]] && xrdb -merge ~/.Xde

Re: LibertyBSD, recently forked from OpenBSD, has been deblobbed as much as its creator could see?

2016-02-19 Thread lists
Recurring troll coming from gmail and nabble (you-name-it tomorrow). Zero entry effort. Wasted electricity and skin. Plain simply ignored.

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

2016-02-19 Thread lists
Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:38:38 + (GMT) Roderick > Well, let me say my opinion. Why !? > I think BSD and Unix is also "outdated beyond rescue", but we are ^^ This means "following standards and reliably implementing Unix core". Same strong words

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