On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 20:34:39 -0600 Luke Small <lukensm...@gmail.com>

> I haven't really done a fresh install since 4.8 .

Not much point making installer suggestions then, you just don't use
it.  You complain your feel for a lack of hand holding experience in
a fool proof solution would be the one to sort your problem.

> If they want to run a two nic gateway, let them read the man-pages.

Don't worry, I'll read the man page instead.  There you go, your
problem is solved now, and you've made your position clearer.

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