Mon, 21 Dec 2015 09:03:09 -0600 Luke Small <lukensm...@gmail.com>
> I don't need a special need case.

Your own use case is deviating from the minimum required to install the
system in a supported by the installer way.  And yes, you don't need a
special "need" case (giggling).

> I have already configured the system I need,

Then why this rant?

> but it would have been nice to know about these configuration
> options earlier.

Aha, so you missed on some critical to your mind entropy extra feature
since 4.8 but you never did take care to try it out with a re-install.
How deceptive of OpenBSD to not provide you these possibilities back in
time.  Perhaps you could have sorted another crisis.

Dmitrij explained this part.  It is not the installer's obligation to
give you suggestions of possible use case for your operating system.

It is up to you to figure out what you want and need from the system.
The demand for some functionality of the installer is to make it easier
for you in case every installation needs it, once you know how to
handle it efficiently (better than your "Go moku" solution).

> It was only because of Linux that I became aware of
> some of the stuff like what vlc

In translation, you found some software with the help of the casual use
of other operating systems.  Good for you, but unrelated so far to your
thread topic.  Imagine what you could do if you've been using the
almighty OpenBSD since day one of your computing life.  The installer's
fault.  Again.

> is and I fooled around with Web pages
> and virtual HDs enough, along with a couple few thousand line c
> programs one to recursively glob search through directory listing

$ man find

> return them in stdout (which some similar program undoubtedly exists)
> and one to search through file contents and return a roundrobin array
> snippet of file contents showing the context in which the search value
> is used.

$ man grep

I'll let you find sed(1) and awk(1) in your post graduate courses, who
are we kidding, you seriously did not fool us, you already have plans to
rewrite these in JavaScript to let them run faster.

> (FYI, I have a C program from my artificial intelligence
> class that beats gomoku even if the gomoku goes first. And my program
> only uses a 10x10 board. It beats it before it goes outside of those
> constraints.)

And completes an infinite loop in less than 1K cycles.  Super secret
project, you will one day stop Sky.net and replace its core in an
afternoon.  This means you're about to become one very skilled computer
engineer, our best hopes go you take more interest in documentation.

> Anyway, my point is that OpenBSD doesn't need to be a
> research OS as Theo has stated. It could have some minor tweaks to the
> install that undoubtedly could persuade users to continue.

Users installing OpenBSD need little to no persuasion, it has manuals
that are correctly precise and open the knowledge path in to a
continuation of the UNIX system experience.

> But maybe
> that is the mindset of the OpenBSD hacker.

You'll know with some active use of the OpenBSD system.

> Make it hard and difficult
> for everybody that doesn't want to spend their life away searching for
> commands they don't know about.

This is simply false, are you by any chance referring to another system?

OpenBSD makes it easy and simply works.

> If my Asus laptop, which I figured out
> at the time needed to disable a configuration option, would have
> accepted feeebsd,

Complaint goes that direction, right?  Towards Asus and FreeBSD.  Rock
solid, heart touching.  Wallet melting.  The power to serve.  Fast food.

> I suspect I would have gone with them. Not because
> they had more up to date software systems like kde, but because their
> system doesn't put up a fight against the user and doesn't
> self-destruct any time it needs to fsck: By Default.

Whoa there, time for a commercial break, go back to the publicity site
you came from and report successful mailing list post and a campaign won
for the good new JS enabled www installer for OpenBSD.  Not.

On a serious note, let's discuss this friendly off list and see if you
can benefit from some cool tips to improve your OpenBSD virtual machine
with more bells and whistles.

> On 12/21/15, li...@wrant.com <li...@wrant.com> wrote:
> >> Luke Small <lukensm...@gmail.com>  
> >> >    [...] It would be very easy to write a C
> >> >    program to parse and edit fstab to make all the partitions softdep.
> >> > I
> >> >    wouldn't know how to automate a disklabel call in the way that
> >> >
> >> > https://www.voltaire.com/docs/setup-openbsd-5-6-with-full-disk-encryption
> >> >    performs it. [...]  
> >
> > See how when you start getting funny ideas on top of an online tutorial
> > elsewhere made you look completely out of touch with reality?  This is
> > happening over and over.  While simply reading man pages and the
> > OpenBSD frequently asked question suffices.
> >
> > On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:07:02 +0100 Carsten Kunze <carsten.ku...@arcor.de>  
> >>
> >> Not necessary that you tinker with a C programm, there is already
> >> sed(1) which can change fstab and disklabel.
> >>
> >> The current installer is just perfect.  For any additional task a
> >> generic method would be that you write a shell script which
> >> does your complete personal system configuration.  
> >
> > Exactly so.
> >
> > Now the next question, who can first find the actual installer in the
> > CVS tree?  Please report your findings to Luke, who needs tips how to
> > extend it for his own use case.

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