Hello Michael:
Many thanks for your views that you just put. Makes sense to me.
Very helpful notes re China's trade with Haifa - I had not been aware of that.
Do you have any references please? No worries if not, I will find it.
Be well, Hari
PS: CanadianBr.C 1100 am news says right now:
(i) 'Isr
Good evening Sartesian.
No not fossilised, but maybe scotomic-blind spot viewpoint... I am not quite
sure yet
So:
Not at all disagreeing that " the soviets were the most highly developed form
of a united front organization."
That accent is surely then, falling upon these words: "the most hi
Douglas: Good choice in my view - given his thoughts-practice on anti-fascism.
But he was an engrained Leninist - would you agree or not? I don't agree with
those who have appropriated him as a fashionable icon for an anti-party thought
he did not hold.
I only say this in relation Marvyn's core
Good am Marv:
I had not realised that you had thought this was so central at the moment in
your concerns.
To be honest for my own part, I was more concerned at the moment, to digest the
elections and considering its immediate, medium and long term.
FWIW - I'll re-look at this, since it was origin
Good am Marv:
The prior short exchange has drawn much dumping on Leninism by some, arguing
how it became irrelevant (supposedly) in "free democratic" societies. I don't
propose to try to tackle any of that. But 2 things that you note, I'll pick up
on. I am not at all sure that we (that is you an
Many Thx Jim!
Same query to you as I put to Michale M.
Namely about the boundaries between 'lending' and 'borrowing' having become
possibly eroded over the 'fiscalisation' (?is that a word?) of the imperialist
economies.
Again - many thx for considering,
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Thx Michael. So borrowers get cheap money.
Isn't much of the financing nowadays done by non-banking firms? And isn't the
boundary between 'lenders' and 'borrowers' rather less well demarcated nowadays
than in the 1980s pre the petrodollar huge influx of 'hot money'?
Thx for any thoughts.
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i) As to Michael, and Jim - I confirm I agree that inflation is a tool by which
to squeeze further the working class; and that it 'cheapens' money thus
affecting relatively buyers and sellers of money.
ii) Petrodollars came in merely as my temporal marker of t
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Thanks, then maybe I misunderstood him.
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Hello Mike:
It was in the link as provided by Charles Keener on Nov 8 at Message # 33421:
in a longish article by/or at - something called 'Raven'.
Namely: It is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7iGPm0vloA
At about 1 hour 5 minutes is the bit that startled me from Hudson.
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Mike:
I should be way clearer. "Interesting" was not quite clear enough!
He seemed to say that corporate financing was the way a 'third party' would
come about...! It is not the way perhaps, that many Marxists would think it
might come about.
Now no doubt, as the DP loses "credibility" (even furt
This is a very interesting review in WSWS of what promises to be a 'good modern
opera' - for an old fashionista that is almost a contradiction in terms.
Interesting that the WSWS praises its anti-war theme but the NYT review (also
attached) cautions that it is: " a little pat to describe “Ground
Michael K:
Thank you for this synopsis.
I have a query about your final paragraph. I think I saw Illan Pappe say
something similar, but I cannot recall where that was.
You write:
"The worst defeat for Palestine since 1948 is not the "end of Palestine."
Palestinian people still live and so will fi
So having dropped 'charges' over the last weeks, levelled at me first regarding
Syria; then being a pro-Putinite; Duane now accuses me that I " help spread the
Nazi trope 3 days after the invasion ".
This is the 'method' of picking out quotes completely out of context. It is
nothing more than t
Hello Michael:
You have accurately gauged my overall views. Thanks for assessing them on the
basis of full reading rather than excavating for the fool's gold of highly
selected quotes. Mind - I would have expected nothing less of you.
The problem I have seen - on this list before now - is that
Very interesting to hear Michael Hudson's notions of the way a third party
would come about, by the corporate oligarchy.
Round about 1h3 5 mins. Most of it is a fairly long rant by both Woolf &
Hudson. Most of it OK but nothing revalatory. But this snippet was an
interesting turn - the Hudson th
This was posted onto Shane Hopkinson's e-accompanying list - which goes with
his group-reading of Marx's works. The review was written by a member of that
group - Bill Jefferies. I think I might invest in the book, anything to help a
body get thru' and understand KM's 'Capital''s volumes!
https:
I think there are cmdes from NZ here including John Edmundson.
What good sources are there on the "Te Pāti Māori" party?
What is the Marxist take on them?
Obviously prompted by recent news as in this current article at NYT.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/15/world/asia/new-zealand-parliament-maori
"Mr. Sinclair, whose Anishinaabe name was Mazina Giizhik, championed Indigenous
peoples’ rights as the first Indigenous person to become a judge in his home
province of Manitoba, and later, when he was appointed to Canada’s Senate. But
it was his work as the lead commissioner of the Truth and Re
"However incompatibilities in the blood of Bogdanov and the student which could
not have been foreseen at the time"
By the Red Cross dating of cross-match procedures for blood, that I had sent
before, this is not a correct statement.
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I had not appreciated that Bogdanov had died of an exchange transfusion in an
un-matched recipient-donor situation. at least I think it was likely to have
been un-matched, the review you cite Jim does not make that clear. It says
merely:
"Bogdanov was a prominent Bolshevik and a pioneer in blood
Hello Patrick:
I confess I was a little puzzled at who/what exactly the "NED" is, that these
e-blasts were targeting. So the case seems to be that the NED and 'WMD' are
pro-US fronts that operate not only in South Africa - but world wide. One of
the articles above states:
" The modus operandi i
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As we move into December, no doubt the proliferation of "Messiah" concerts will
grow.
"Every Valley" by Charles King; New York 2024; is a quick read - and documents
how closely enmeshed both Handel and his world were with slavery. Lest we
forget.
Worth a quick flip. Get it from your library, no
https://mlrg.online/politics/hovering-on-the-brink-of-fascism-what-happened-in-the-november-5th-2024-usa-elections/
(1) I doubt anything new to the list members here.
-> " The main report is focused upon two main aims and one as yet unanswered
question.
First, this short report tries to analyse w
David W:
Previously I had said I was not sure where i had written on Bakdash.
I have now had some time to dig it up. And of course, the new events in Syria
helped jog bits of my memory:
(1) In this early piece I had dealt with him in relation to Khruschev:
http://ml-review.ca/aml/AllianceIssues/A
What would an editor do one wonders, with this threat?
"He (Kennedy) said he would steer the nearly $48 billion annual budget of the
National Institutes of Health away from drug development and toward studies
that would explain high rates of chronic disease. He also said he would seek to
prosecu
Just to add to Alan's & my earlier notes: The MIA has a lot of his stuff.
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1) Recent more academic stuff that incorporates more recent work from the
archives:
I have been using 'The Diary of Dimitrov" - or Dimitrov's Diary' published by
Yale Archives communism; 2008 as a source. It is to some libraries, available
in an e-form.
I still have not got to completing this '
Many thanks John for that quick run-down.
Very helpful indeed. I also enjoyed the way the 'haka' clearly discombobulated
the Speaker of the House! I always thought the Maori responses to their
oppression were so apparently much more forthright than the aboriginal and the
Canadian indigenous ones
Ah Dear me Duane...
Always on the hunt for the bloody, treacherous "Stalinist" in the wood pile -
are you not?
Usually that seems be me...
Ten marks for effort (on a scale of 0-100), but goodness - 0 for accuracy.
Do you just hit on words randomly? Have you heard of google? Or perhaps, if
like me
Hello Michael: But was not the repeal of the Corn Laws a little complicated by
the internal strife of the ruling classes of Britain. That is to say the
up-coming industrialists wanted cheap corn and the landed aristocracy holding
onto power - did not? Marx wrote quite a bit about that, but i hav
A further report about the weeks long background preparations, largely
un-noticed:
https://jacobin.com/2024/12/yoon-suk-yeol-korea-coup
I believe we might need more details on two aspects perhaps, to fully
understand what happened.
Namely re the relationship to the pro-Japanese moves of the Yoon
Hello Ira:
Thanks - Very interesting review by David North of Beatty ( David North,
""Biography as demonology: Aidan Beatty’s The Party is Always Right: The Untold
Story of Gerry Healy and British Trotskyism";
17 September 2024 ). I was just a bit too young in London when Trevor Griffiths
was wr
Was not so much a 'like' as a 'thanks' David.
But a quick comment: If they are indeed that small, it does speak to an
extraordinary output - sometimes at a high level I think. But just maintaining
such a consistent 'daily news' service-output is hard.
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Hi Charlie:
Actually I was honestly a bit surprised as to just how many comments the little
'brief book comment' seemed to have spurred. I found the conversations
intriguing and interesting, with many strands. I try to address a couple of
your comments here.
Truly - it was only meant to be simp
Thank you Antony Brain & Wm Quimby.
Can you deconstruct what Kentridge is driving at there?
I confess that I am conflicted about him. Undoubtedly a tremendously talented
artist. In this following youtube - he explores the myths of the Sibyl and
Perseus around fate and 'fates'.
Now admittedly, in
Thank you Paul.
Re: " It’s certainly true that if the CIA ever succeeds in eliminating the WRP
leadership, casting directors everywhere will be in trouble. . . The WRP’s main
star, Gerry Healy, has not himself trodden the boards of the legitimate stage,
but his gifts as actor, producer and direc
Charles Lister in Der Spiegel (->
https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/syrien-news-milizenfuehrer-verspricht-sicherheit-fuer-alawiten-der-tag-zum-nachlesen-a-9c83f23e-a470-4c15-8e0c-ffb0548bf151
) via google-translate:
" Syria expert on the situation
Charles Lister, Syria expert from the Middle East In
Hello Gojo:
I hesitate quite frankly - to engage. Because I sincerely do not think that on
this matter there is likely to be anything but, as Mao put it "an antagonistic
contradiction:. [I very rarely feel inspired to cite a phrase by Mao, but in
this case it as a phrase pithily sums up what I t
Hello Michael: I also agree with your about Heather Cox-R. I see her mails
every day, and while at times they are a bit 'twee and somewhat supine to the
Democrats, I think they are usually worth reading.
Her views on this divide are widely held it seems - including of course John R.
Last week th
Forgive me - I got your name wrong Gojko - unintentional.
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I would be interested if cmdes had any views that either contradict or
supplement the below? It comes from the WSWS; and I believe it is a reasonable
picture of events. Any thoughts from North of the USA border?
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/01/07/lpti-j07.html?pk_campaign=wsws-newslette
Hi Mark & Sartesian:
I agree it is not worth keeping the thread going.
I do perhaps - as a closure - add:
1) I checked with a social workers in the N.East who I had worked with for many
years and she said this: "I’m not sure that Starmer is the issue here. The
various child abuse scandals raised
" Right up until he was assassinated, Hassan Nasrallah did not believe that
Israel would kill him.
As he hunkered inside a Hezbollah fortress 40 feet underground on Sept. 27, his
aides urged him to go to a safer location. Mr. Nasrallah brushed it off,
according to intelligence collected by Israe
"Unequivocally, the final fall of the Assad hereditary and fascist regime is a
great step forward to be celebrated by and for the Syrian people. . .
The current situation in Syria also marks a broader key moment, the withdrawal
of Russia from the center of the Middle East. In a swinging geopoliti
Thanks Peter:
In the takeovers of various factories threatened with closures (See Italy:
https://www.theleftberlin.com/insorgiamo-we-rise-up/ and Argentina comes to
mind
https://upsidedownworld.org/archives/argentina/argentine-factory-in-the-hands-of-the-workers-fasinpat-a-step-closer-to-perman
Hah!
Am I then 'hoist on my own petard?' says Mark - eh?!
Most likely as always, yes. . . But complex. . .
Interesting question in many ways. If I bore you, you will no doubt move to the
next message. . but there are a few layers here!
1) The derivation of the term - one meant to enshrine whites
Interesting view Tom. However I do not know what to make of it.
Is it to be interpreted that there is an evolution of views?
that all labels are meaningless?
that there is no political dividing lines between these labels. . . or. . .?
Which was the original sin, or the original gulp?
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Good am in particular to Tom, Jim and Dennis:
Obviously the sparse postings by those discernibly female, is a concern. (We
have not even touched on the issue of other diversities). In any case, I do
have three simple points:
i) Separation of *content* matter and *tone of debate* seems important t
Good am Mark. Thanks. Does anyone know where the data is for that pay-scale
disparity? I realise other issues may be more important than merely a
potentially 'veiled' open listing of wages. But I am thinking back to Marv
Gandall's comment that this question of a trade union bureaucracy is not as
Thank you Karen. Any practical suggestions to offer to rectify what is
happening?
If you can offer some that would be great. If not - quite understand.
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Thx for appending the prior note you had written on Tariq Ali - which makes
sense to me - no problems. Again, I have no interest in defending Ali at all -
he is pretty virulently anti-my people, meaning what I call ML-ists. I have
followed his career over decades since t
Hello Tom:
OK - that does help me locate far more what you are talking to. In fact you
have - I believe anyway - talked of this before. But I will openly confess, it
always struck me as being so 'academic' - that it was a deterrent to my trying
to understand it properly. And yes, perhaps I simpl
Good am John. Surely you are mis-reading Tariq Ali? I mean is he not
forecasting what will happen with the USA and Israel now more overtly than
before, controlling the Middle East? Perhaps you understand that I have no
brief for Tariq Ali. But on this he is surely correct?
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Hey Tom:
So, trying to understand what the fundamental 'gulp' or foundation of the 'path
dependency' was.
On the first 'candidate' - I guess one would have to read the book to get the
'drift'. But it seems that you are not referring to the famous 'Preface'
outlining some key notions of histori
Gojko: Being from former Yugoslavia, I would submit - is not the gold standard
to enable a critique of what you call Stalinism. I do not believe we will come
to terms on this. I am not a Maoist, so my own terms of reference do not align
with Charlie. However he is correct on this matter in my vi
Hello Sartesian:
Thanks for that data point.
Honestly I was more focused on the second part of that sentence - "Syria will
now become a shared American–Turkish colony".
I think that remains very likely the case, although the word 'colony' is not
fitting the bill so much as perhaps neo-colony. W
Correction to "only the AfD and Sarah Wagenknecht's BSW followed him with 7
votes BSW 'yes' and 3 absent. " The diagram is transparent enough though. The
"FDP' with a pretty discredited Lindner also followed Merz.
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Thanks Marv for posting this.
As time goes on it is certainly obvious that those here who were arguing that
the Gaza Ceasefire represented some sort of a "victory" for Gazans-Palestinians
were over-optimistic (to say the very least).
But also as time goes on, the more does all the Trumpian extra
Not only is 'effectiveness' a problem. Speed of counter-response or should I
say 'slowness' - is also. Longer it 'sets' the more unable to easily to remove.
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I do not know if this following remark fits onto the title of the strand
exactly. On the other hand it is sparked by comments under this title. The
remark could be considered as a 'philosophical' comment, or perhaps more as a
form of a lament.
At this stage as the USA state structure is being '
Sartesian - a perfectly reasonable and apt query. I have been thinking, and I
continue (presumably like many here) to do so. I will try to frame it shortly.
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A piece that tries to show where the Federal Elections due to take place
end-Feb are leading to.
The “Metamorphoses’ of Would be CDU Chancellor Friederich Merz and the 2025
German Federal Elections":
at MLRG.online ->
https://mlrg.online/current-events/the-metamorphoses-of-would-be-cdu-chancello
Sorry - I shall be quiet for a bit to make up! It all hinged on the same paper
with letters and author-rebuttals, that was the reasons. I apologise for
density overload.
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I had not heard of this tense before - I would have described it as purely
'passive' - and try to follow George Orwell's writing advice to avoid it (yes
indeed that right winger George Orwell wrote very well about how to write well).
But the formulation here does ring perfectly truly:
"Wolf uses
I know a lot of people depressed right now watching what is going on in North
Americas. Given my age, many are pensioners who are actually simply worried
about their pensions. Of those up North in Canada, several I know are simply
worried about the tariffs and a recession and groceries. There is
Hello Mark: No I don't have an x account.
However the article from 'Arbeiter Zukunft'
(https://www.arbeit-zukunft.de/2024/12/24/magdeburg-rechter-afd-sympathisant-ermordet-5-menschen/
) shows the image of a machinegun that the deranged person had on that account.
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Good evening David. So you enumerated I think - three Internationals following
Trotsky. But then yu say also there are a "Lot more" than 5. So how many are
there in fact?
I know this is not a 'train-spotting' list (I quickly left that list as it got
just far too 'encyclopaedist' and somewhat ove
Thank you Chris.
I think this nuanced and balanced view is more sensible than a hailing of the
HTS as an unqualified "revolution". But one that *also* celebrates the freeing
of the Syrian people from the Assadite herediatry fascist stranglehold.
FWIW The situation seems to me, as being akin to
By Felix Keßler, Torsten Kleinz and Kim Staudt
December 20, 2024, 4:38 p.m at:
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/elon-musk-empfiehlt-wahl-der-afd-wie-elon-musk-den-bundestagswahlkampf-aufmischt-a-da4c4140-a65e-4a9c-8686-3b30f9dea852
Headline via Go-Translate:
" Musk's recommendation to vo
I thought the tactics of pasting up words from the trial to publicise the
actual testimony, a good way of reminding the population of Avignon (and
France) of the realities.
At:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/20/world/europe/avignon-france-pelicot-trial.html?unlocked_article_code=1.i04.MDpm.2EdC
Thanks David.
Perhaps your characterisation of why the reasons the ML parties split as being
the "same" as the reason the Trotsky parties split may not be quite right is
this:
The reasons (apart from the supervening personality ones, which were not to be
minimised and numerous) were : Khruschevi
Hi Mark. Thanks for this primer on AI. Their usage in information sciences have
rocketed. As one example, medical peer review journals now allow 'blind'
authors to use chat-Bot-AI. But they are supposed to declare this. I have no
idea how that can be policed actually.
In any case is there a 'sta
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/gaza-krieg-und-kunst-nan-goldin-ausstellung-sorgt-fuer-eklat-in-der-neuen-nat
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https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/gaza-krieg-und-kunst-nan-goldin-ausstellung-sorgt-fuer-eklat-in-der-neuen-nationalgalerie-a-73d24821-76c3-40e5-9057-1a0bd3327ae6?sa
Ooops message here: hari kumar 7:33pm #33927 - is a repeat of earlier link.
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Final twiddle on this, following the name: ->
Labor & the Long Road to Reunification in Korea (w/ Ju-Hyun Park); August 30,
2023 "In These TImes"; at->
https://inthesetimes.com/episodes/working-pod-korea-reunification-2
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Sorry - but this is also a very interesting quote from the same piece:
"The opposition in the streets was coming from the organized labor movement
which even went as far as to release a joint statement with the Organization of
Trade Unions in the DPRK or North Korea itself. So this was a united s
I made a bit if time to look around, and does not address your query - but I
did find some very interesting (to me anyway) background information. A rather
long article consisting of an interview with a US based Korean activist in
"These Times": "South Korea Declared War on Unions. Workers Are F
Does it not seem so? Already withdrawn - right?
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While all the drama in South Korea goes on, at the other side of the world
matters are also heating up.
- The Guardian has a good breakout of how coalitions might look in France after
the 'little king's' man got fired in parliament yesterday (
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/05/who-
whoops: "This in the service of a couple of exploitative and misogynist rich
actor/director clients (whose names I definitely was completely aware of)."
should be : ". . (whose names I definitely was completely UNaware of)."
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There are so many countless stories of the utter decadence, viciousness and
awfulness of current society, that rightly - we on the list focus mainly on the
'high politics'. After all - Gaza is pretty impossible to top in terms of its
"utter decadence, viciousness and awfulness". And frankly Marx
Sort of tell us what even progressive scholars - isolated from any working
class movement - can do. Namely nothing. But the article does seem to falter on
not even discussing Finkelstein's careful dissection of 'the Holocaust
industry'. Perhaps one should charitably assume it takes an understand
Thank you John. I certainly agree with your thrust and your overall analysis. .
. for WIW my opinion is!
However - I hope that you will not mind a single question/comment to you - You
characterise yourself as an anarchist , though a qualified one, being a
Marxist-Anarchist or as you put it an 'a
Absolutely no one here has tried to "bury this story".
I believe this thread is closed as it seems no one has given any further
adequate positions to supplement those of a fairly long lasting thread. I'd
suggest any closing remarks - or substantively new data-remarks - simply be
made and then t
Les & Anthony - To add:
Today in Adam Tooze a reference from the FT (which I do not have access to):
https://adamtooze.substack.com/p/decomposing-economic-surprise-when?utm_campaign=email-half-post&r=17xgfq&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email";
->
"Threats only work, if you actually have leverage
[Sorry Mark: I am very clearly hyper-ventilating, and I will get a paper bag
out next in order to re-breathe into it - Thus no more emails from me today . .
. However, this report from the FT I saw now is part of a pattern, and seems
to me quite linked to Gazan moves - I feel].
FT 26 January,
Obviously the Palestinians (and we) need to watch carefully how all this
unfolds. But under-estimating both USA and Israeli policy intents to re-make
the map are traps for the Left. Even more so of course for the Palestinians and
Left on the ground. If the left really wishes to, and (of course i
Not sure if anyone here is interested in this overall topic. Which perhaps is
really about the continued slide of the UK towards Nigel Farage-ist near-to-
fascism . . . and not so much the NHS itself, although that is alone pretty
interesting and worrying for me anyway.
However. . . Starmer (PM
I would sincerely caution against thinking that the Pentagon and USA power has
been 'weakened' by the appointment of Trumpite figure-head.
Do you really think the power of the armed forces has been cancelled by Hegseth?
Perhaps the Pentagon spine has been stiffened to act against home-USA
constit
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Be intereste
Sorry I got the title partly wrong - but that is what the tile really means i
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Sorry that one-liner was for Sartesian.
Also - it sort of struck me Sartesian:
That perhaps you sometimes over-react to the term 'reductionism' from exactly
this sort of vantage point. I do not know if this is accurate, and you may
disagree.
However I recall an instance where you objected stron
I agree with each of those sentences. H
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Good am Jim:
Thanks for the notice. Sincere condolences to Prof Graham's family, FWIW.
I was on that zoom conference you note.
He was somewhat surprised by my interventions - he was not expecting I think to
find a person conversant (to some degree) with the new science of epigenetics
there. I w
I spot our old tradition from William Morris and John Ball.
A good updating John - I wish it were true. . . Maybe it will become so.
(-> https://www.marxists.org/archive/morris/works/1886/johnball/johnball.htm at
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Lieber Michael:
I am sorry to miss this, but I left Berlin after the Luxemburg weekend, and for
work had to be back in Canada until the spring. I commend you and the others
for having such a debate.
I think personally it is one of the key issues as we move into a period of even
more heightened
Hello Michael:
I think it is reasonable to offer a correction here. As far as I am aware the
MLPD is certainly not an upholder of the Hoxha tradition. They are certainly
quite large, and they are very clearly Maoist.
-> https://www.mlpd.de/english/program-of-the-marxist-leninist-party.pdf
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