Speakable Feature

2012-07-31 Thread Les Kriegler
Okay, I have this working, but it's very intermittent. While I like the concept, it doesn't seem practical to use it right now: if I'm missing something, let me know. What are other's results getting this to work reliably? Les On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi Neil > Wh

Re: Speakable Feature

2012-07-31 Thread Alex Hall
Mine works maybe 70% of the time. However, I have a cheap desktop microphone feeding into a $3 USB sound card, plus a fan in the background. I'm sure that, with a better microphone, I'd get much better results. As with any speech recognition, the microphone makes a lot of difference I'd expect.

Re: Speakable Feature

2012-07-31 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Les, I'm getting it to work pretty reliably, but it doesn't work all the time. Also, I spent a lot of time calibrating the microphone. I do think it's worth using, but it doesn't work 100% of the time. If you want better results, my best advice would be to practice. Best, Donna On Jul 31, 2

Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion

2012-07-31 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Just to help, if you wish to paste a piece of text from a web page into Text Edit and not have the formatting or links present, once you've pasted the text, press command+shift+t to convert to text. All the formatting and links or images will be gotten rid of and you have your plain text to save

Re: dictation success!

2012-07-31 Thread Eugenia Firth
Les hi. Have you tried just using the escape key and not command escape? You're right about the sound being the recognition signal, so I don't get either why it isn't working. Ricardo, you mentioned earlier reporting things to Apple. Although I have done this, I suspect some poor person has b

Automatic updates

2012-07-31 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi guys I don't know if I want to do this, but does anybody know how to set up the automatic update that you can do in Mountain lion these days? Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post

Re: Speakable Feature

2012-07-31 Thread Jeff Berwick
I wonder if anybody has any thoughts on this problem with Speakable items: I have set it up and made sure that "on" is selected. I have selected my activation key and restarted my computer. When I go to calibrate and press my chosen button, I get the default Mac error bump sound. When I am no

Re: finding out about default button in dialogue box possible or not?

2012-07-31 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
HI, I had turned verbosity to low and did not get that info. Will try tip with last button in dialogue box. Might suggest aple to add a shortcut to have the default button announced. Thanks, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. On Jul 31,

Re: Speakable Feature

2012-07-31 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Jeff, Not sure if this is your problem, but all keys don't seem to work. For example, I wanted to use the accent key, but had no success with it, so changed to Esc, which has brought much better results. Cheers, Donna On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote: > I wonder if anybody h

Re: will this copy work?

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Blouch
I haven't done this but I doubt using the contextual menu from the desktop will get you what you want. I think you'll end up with a DVD that has a directory with one giant dmg file in it. I'm sure there are tutorials around but I suspect using Disk Utility from your utilities folder will get yo

Re: Speakable Feature

2012-07-31 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there. Mine works I think about 95% of the time. I am using the microphone that is within the Mac. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > Mine works maybe 70% of the time. However, I have a cheap desktop microphone > feeding into a $3 USB s

Re: Speakable Feature

2012-07-31 Thread Daniel
Hey, and hat exactly do you do to calibrate the microphone? In the screen that appears I can only see the volume control that one can move up and down but I see no other thing that warns us about whether the calibration has been successful or not. How have you proceeded with the calibration?

Using and copying to TextEdit and downloading files [was Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion]

2012-07-31 Thread Esther
Hello David, Option+Return on a link to force downloading is actually a Mac OS X shortcut with a VoiceOver twist to it. Mac users, whether visually impaired or not, can use Option+Click on a link to force downloading of a file. But if the link is highlighted, pressing the Return key together

Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion

2012-07-31 Thread Alex Hall
Also, those additional steps are a feature, in my opinion. If I want formatting, I have it, so I could save part of a page ocmplete with images, headings, and so on, a great feature. If I don't, I choose plaintext. Or, I make sure I'm in a .txt file first, and that conversion should be automatic

Re: Speakable Feature

2012-07-31 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Daniel, That thing you're calling the volume control is actually the slider that you move up and down to calibrate the mic. You have to speak the phrases as they are written, and if the Mac recognizes the command, you'll hear a little "whit" sound. You want to get to the point where you're

Re: Speakable Feature

2012-07-31 Thread Les Kriegler
Okay, mine works about 20% of the time at best. What calibration level did you settle on? I'm also using the internal microphone on the Mac. Thanks. Les On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi there. > Mine works I think about 95% of the time. I am using the microphone that i

Re: speakable items

2012-07-31 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Donna, Well, you were right, it wasn't on at first, it is now. I'll play with other keys to see if I can get better results. Thanks. Les On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi Lisette and Les, > > Are you guys sure you have the on button pressed in the Speakable items > s

Re: Speakable Feature

2012-07-31 Thread Jeff Berwick
I have tried [escape], [f10] and [option][escape]…Just had it work twice in a row and was able to open Mail…However, once Mail was open the speakable items stopped working again. Very temperamental. Jeff On 2012-07-31, at 5:21 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > Not sure if this is your

Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion

2012-07-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi David, I'm confused as to many of your issues here as they appear to work much differently than you've expressed below. Are you, perhaps, still speaking from a OS Lion prospective? Within Mountain Lion, you will note the following: 1. Highlighting stuff in Safari is totally normal. That

Mac OSX and keyboard shortcuts

2012-07-31 Thread chris hallsworth
Hello all. Good news. Depending on how things go, I may be in acquisition of a second hand 13 inch Macbook running Lion, upgraded from Snow Leopard. I have been told it's a 2008 model. So here is my first of no doubt many questions. How do I bring up a document of keyboard shortcuts, such as th

Re: finding out about default button in dialogue box possible or not?

2012-07-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, You may be able to change what is announced with respect to buttons in the Custom Verbosity area of the VO Utility. If you prefer most things on Low, you are able to specifically set the button attributes to be announced differently within that area. Also, as Alex mentioned, the default b

Re: DOS (was dictation success!

2012-07-31 Thread Karen Lewellen
Donna, As you express, to each his /her own to be sure. karen On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, I confess I'm astounded. I went kicking and screaming into Windows 95, but I had to switch for my job, so switch I did. I've never had much love for Windows, but you couldn't pay me

Re: Speakable Feature

2012-07-31 Thread Gigi
Hi again I didn't do the calibration at all. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: > Okay, mine works about 20% of the time at best. What calibration level did > you settle on? I'm also using the internal microphone on the Mac. Thanks. > > Les > On Jul 31, 2

Cannot open attachments anymore

2012-07-31 Thread Christine Grassman
I am interacting with the text and have tried pressing Vo space to open; have tried Enter; have moved about the message content table and tabbed through the choices; looked in message headers. I cannot figure out either how to download or open the attachment. Christine -- You received this mes

Re: Mac OSX and keyboard shortcuts

2012-07-31 Thread Alex Hall
Glad to hear you may be joining the world of the mac! For application shortcuts, just look in the menus (ctrl-option-m) and note the ones you will use. Once you memorize those, go back and look for more. There are a lot in some applications, but, just like Windows, you will eventually find them

Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion

2012-07-31 Thread Rachel Feinberg
For selecting text, try interacting with said text first. then pressing vo+enter and it will say: "start selecting." You can navigate word by word, or however you choose to do it, and press vo+enter when you've finished selecting, and vo will say: "Stop selecting." Press command+C to copy the te

Re: what's the story with Menu Tab for Facebook?

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Gilland
On my mac, I use the FB mobile site. you have to configure a few things though in Safari to make it work correctly. Let me outline those things below. Being I'm an avid mac user, and almost never use my windows box anymore, I figured I could chime in here and help you out. 1. First of all,

Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Gilland
Not everyone can aford Bookshare though. Chris. On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:17 AM, "David Tanner" wrote: > I would definately agree, but if you remember, last year when Lion came out > we went through this same complaint cycle. People want all the new stuff, > but they want it to all work the sa

Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion

2012-07-31 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Agreed, and If you're outside the US, like I am, bookshare in my opinion, isn't really any use. On 2012-07-31, at 7:54 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: > Not everyone can aford Bookshare though. > > Chris. > > On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:17 AM, "David Tanner" > wrote: > >> I would definately agree,

Re: Cannot open attachments anymore

2012-07-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, You'll either need to press VO-shift-m to bring up the Contextual menu which will give you the options you wish or Interact with the Message Header one level down where you'll find either the QuickLook button to open it right away or the Save pop-up to save it wherever you'd like. HTH. La

Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Gilland
For programming with a simple text editer like Notepad, as you made mention, could you not just use Text Edit? Chris. On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, David Eagle wrote: > For me, mountain Lion is much faster, and much more reliable; says me > who's writing this email on a PC. > > Incidentaly, s

Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Gilland
There used to be a command: vo+return. Basically, you'd hit it once to mark the beginning, then you'd move to the end and hit it again, and that would select all the text between the two markers. I haven't gotten this reliably to work since OSX 10.5 no, that wasn't a typo, 10.5, not 6, Leopard.

Re: what's the story with Menu Tab for Facebook?

2012-07-31 Thread Rachel Feinberg
Thanks very much for this, Chris. It works well for the most part! Except for links being all .php, and i found you had to choose firefox for windows, and not the mac version. The number was 11.0. Again, I've been wondering how to set this up for awhile, so thanks so much for taking the time to

Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Gilland
If I want to to just copy the text in a webpage in windows, then I will just select what I want and then paste it into notepad. If I do this in Text Edit then it inserts all the formatting of the page including links, making it impossible to just save as a text file. OK, instead of pasting into

Re: what's the story with Menu Tab for Facebook?

2012-07-31 Thread Kimberly thurman
You can also choose internet explorer 8 or 9 to and it works pretty well. On Jul 31, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Rachel Feinberg wrote: > Thanks very much for this, Chris. It works well for the most part! Except for > links being all .php, and i found you had to choose firefox for windows, and > not t

Re: Cannot open attachments anymore

2012-07-31 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Try VO Shift M on the attachment; if that doesn't work, look in the File menu. Also, there should be a popup button to manage saving attachments. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHaw

iTunes is making me crazy

2012-07-31 Thread Mary Scott
Hi all, iTunes keeps prompting me for my ID and password over and over. I only want to practice my music that is on the desk top. I am wanting a hammer. What to do? Mel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this gr

Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Gilland
Again, is your keyboard focus following your voiceover cursor? If not, that may be why you're getting the menu you're getting with vo shift m instead of the one for the actual link. Chris. On Jul 31, 2012, at 2:33 PM, David Eagle wrote: > Hi, thanks for that. I've now turned quicknav off but

Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Gilland
Excellent! Thanks for that tip. Chris. On Jul 31, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello David, > > To force a file to download rather than play, hold down the Option key and > press Return. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to th

Re: what's the story with Menu Tab for Facebook?

2012-07-31 Thread Alex Hall
Thanks all. So there's no app that works well then? I was never a huge fan of the site no matter the platform I was using, so was hoping to find a better interface. On Jul 31, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > You can also choose internet explorer 8 or 9 to and it works pretty well.

Re: Automatic updates

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Gilland
When you say the automatic update, are you talking about Software Update? It should already be set to alert you. Remember though, it isn't going to pop up another window like it did before to alert you. It'll put a notification inside your Notification Center. To verify the settings though,

Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion

2012-07-31 Thread Harry Hogue
Chris, Selection on a webpage worked with VO+return then VO+arrows to select then VO+return to stop selecting. I have not tried it under Mountain Lion since the shift and arrow keys work great for me, but it definitely worked under Lion. Harry On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:20 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:

imovie question

2012-07-31 Thread Maxwell Ivey
Hello; This is for mike or anyone else with experience using iMovie. i just received three small videos that i would like to merge into one video before uploading to youtube. can i just import them to the events section and then copy all three to the project area and then use the export featur

Re: Automatic updates

2012-07-31 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Chris. I don't know if we're talking about the same thing. Maybe, but maybe not. I'm talking about the new one in Mountain Lion where you can tell your computer to update itself when you're not using it. I'll try what you said and see what happens. when I heard about this, I heard that in a

Tip on selecting text

2012-07-31 Thread Eugenia Firth
I decided to change the title of this subject, because it is now turning into a different thing. Thanks Rachel for your tip, and I just did it to see if it would work. As soon as I can, I'll try it out in Safari. I love this VO enter command, and it does work in Mountain Lion, at least it work

Re: Has anyone got fix for voice over space bar failures or voice over F5 toggle not working in Mountain Lion?

2012-07-31 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi again Sharon. I have been so frustrated with the VO space command not working the way I'm used to that I got desperate and double tapped the track pad to see what would happen. It was not turned on, but I may consider turning it on if no other reason than it will take the place of this thing.

utterly in barest: question about mail Olmac OS X 10.8 Mountain lion

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Gilland
okay. Now, I feel incredibly humiliated, not to mention utterly embarrassed! the very email thread that may have answered this question, I deleted thinking was completely irrelevant to me at the current time. I am currently using the Standard view of mail. I am 100% certain that I am not set to

Re: Cannot open attachments anymore

2012-07-31 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Christine, When your on the e-mail in the messages table, press VO M then go to file. In file, arrow down to Save attachment. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 31, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: > I am intera

Re: Cannot open attachments anymore

2012-07-31 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, to quicklook the attachment, you can also press command Y on the message in the messages table. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 31, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > You'll either need to press VO-shift-m

Re: utterly in barest: question about mail Olmac OS X 10.8 Mountain lion

2012-07-31 Thread Alex Hall
I use right arrow just fine. I know this is basic, but have you tried a restart? Maybe start with closing and re-opening mail? On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: > okay. Now, I feel incredibly humiliated, not to mention utterly embarrassed! > > the very email thread that may have

Re: Automatic updates

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Gilland
I am on sure of there being a way to have it automatically update. I know that you can have it automatically download updates, but I do not believe that it will literally installed them. I stand to be corrected however. If anyone knows away, biome means, please let me know. I suppose that you c

Re: utterly in barest: question about mail Olmac OS X 10.8 Mountain lion

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Gilland
yes, I most certainly have. Remember, we are not talking lion, nor snow leopard here. We are speaking specifically 10.8 Mountain lion. also, remember, I first am not interacting with the message list table. I simply VO right arrow over to it, and then use my up and down arrow keys to move throug

Re: utterly in barest: question about mail Olmac OS X 10.8 Mountain lion

2012-07-31 Thread Alex Hall
I, too, use ML in standard view. I interact with the table, but I close mail so rarely that this is not a hastle. You mentioned disclosure triangles. Have you tried vo-backslash yet? It seems unnecessary since the right arrow should work, but it may help in the meantime. On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:55

Where on earth does Adium put event preferences?

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Gilland
I have a friend who just tried reformatting his hard drive, due to a system crash. he needs to reinstall Adium, however the problem is, he is going to then have to go back in reconfigure all of the spoken events that he originally had set up. not that this is a problem per se, however it is a ma

Re: utterly in barest: question about mail Olmac OS X 10.8 Mountain lion

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Gilland
as I stated in my initial message, yes. I have tried this as well. I have tried VO\, right arrow, VO right arrow, the oh space I have literally tried everything. Nothing seems to be doing the trick. Even closing and reopening mail, restarting voiceover, and even going as far as to restart my ent

Re: partisioning a drive with data already on it?

2012-07-31 Thread Steve Holmes
Actually, I was able to mess with the size sliders a while back when I partitioned a 2 TB external drive . I'm trying to remember exactly what I did but I believe I interacted with the slider itself. It may have been awkward but I was able to manipulate it just the same. On Jul 9, 2012, at 9:

Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion

2012-07-31 Thread Brandon Olivares
A few tips for your difficulties: To keep textedit from formatting the text, first change to plain text mode by pressing command-shift-T. I use this to save web pages, pdf documents and the like all the time, and it works perfectly. View source is accessible, it just includes the entire source

Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion

2012-07-31 Thread Brandon Olivares
I find it is better to paste the formatted text after TextEdit is converted to plain text, a then it properly converts paragraph breaks and such. Just an additional thought. On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: > Just to help, if you wish to paste a piece of text from a web page

an annoyance when switching to an app with a table

2012-07-31 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all, I wonder if anything can be done about this annoyance. Let's use mail as an example: move up and down the messages table, cmd-tab away form mail and do something else, then cmd-tab back. You must up or down arrow, then do it again before vo reads anything, no matter how long you wait. Th

Re: Where on earth does Adium put event preferences?

2012-07-31 Thread John Panarese
Look in the, ~/library/application support folder. There is a whole Adium folder where that is kept. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC

Re: Where on earth does Adium put event preferences?

2012-07-31 Thread Christopher-Mark gilland
Thanks John. By ~/Library, I'm assuming that you're refering to the user library, not the system wide library. Right? Chris. - Original Message - From: "John Panarese" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:37 PM Subject: Re: Where on earth does Adium put event preferences? Look

Re: Has anyone got fix for voice over space bar failures or voice over F5 toggle not working in Mountain Lion?

2012-07-31 Thread Kristyn Leigh
My favorite solution is to use track pad commander and make selections or press buttons with a one finger double tap. Pressing VO + space one key at a time and releasing them at the same time works, but it is awkward and slower. I have the Apple wireless keyboard with my Mac Mini. Are there a

Re: Where on earth does Adium put event preferences?

2012-07-31 Thread John Panarese
Yes, the user library. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRA

Subscription

2012-07-31 Thread Brandon Olivares
Hello, I sent a message last week about my wife trying to subscribe, but I don't think I ever got a response. I don't know how to contact the owner of the group, but my wife really wants to be a part of this group, but her membership has been pending for weeks now. Does anyone know what we can

Re: iMap mail

2012-07-31 Thread Steve Holmes
I converted from POP to IMAP quite some time ago as gmail implemented IMAP a while after POP was going. Any messages you have on gmail's server will remain probably in the All mail folder on gmail. I'm not quite sure on the computer side; you might wanna backup that mail folder(s) separately.

Re: iTunes is making me crazy

2012-07-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I'll give you a bit of info on how iTunes works and hopefully it helps you to work within iTunes easier. 1. By default, iTunes will copy music from wherever you're playing it from into the iTunes Library so that iTunes can play it easier in the future. If you don't care for this behaviou

Having Mail not automatically mark a message as read when I move to it

2012-07-31 Thread Harry Hogue
Hi, guys, I've never changed my Mail preferences at all from when Mail came with my computer on Snow Leopard, and I haven't changed it for Mountain Lion, either. When I move to a message or a message thread, the message I am focused on becomes read, so that VoiceOver will read something like,

Scheduling Mail for Future Delivery

2012-07-31 Thread Harry Hogue
Hi, guys, Has anyone else wanted to be able to schedule mail for future delivery? I thought this would come in handy for those times when I'm up in the middle of the night, but prefer to have messages sent at &:00 or 8:00 in the morning -- so that it is a more normal time to send mail, or if I

Re: Keystroke for moving between windows within same application

2012-07-31 Thread Steve Holmes
Another approach I often use when there is a bunch of windows open like in the finder, is to press VO-F2 twice and just move up and down the list of windows and open the one I want. Sometimes I find this to be faster than rotoring around with Command-` key. On Jul 11, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Simon

Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Moore
You don't have to do all that press return stuff, just simply use the arrow keys and shift, that is how it is done in mountain lion. You can also do a special paste in text edit by pressing command option shift and v which will match the current style. On 1 Aug 2012, at 00:13, Rachel Feinber

Action Required in iCal

2012-07-31 Thread Harry Hogue
Hi, everybody, I share a calendar with someone, and somehow one of my events got changed to a different date, so she changed it back for me. Google Calendar sent me an e-mail and it was updated in my iCal, but I go to the event, and it says "needs action." I noticed the time was set to UTC, s

Re: Help with changing Tabs in YoruFukurou

2012-07-31 Thread Steve Holmes
I've used both Yorufukurou on the mac and Tweetlist on the iPod. I like tweetlist better because it supports twit longer and tweet marker and instapaper. These three features are missing from Yorofukurou. I really wish the developer would integrate these. Presently, if I switch back and fort

Re: Where on earth does Adium put event preferences?

2012-07-31 Thread Christopher-Mark gilland
Excellent deal. I will check that out. So I guess I just need to have him copy all that stuff back over to his user library, then go in to the app's preferences, and remove all my accounts. Right? Chris. - Original Message - From: "John Panarese" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Re: utterly in barest: question about mail Olmac OS X 10.8 Mountain lion

2012-07-31 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Have you tried pressing the zoom button? On 1/08/2012, at 2:12 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: > as I stated in my initial message, yes. I have tried this as well. I have > tried VO\, right arrow, VO right arrow, the oh space I have literally tried > everything. Nothing seems to be doing the trick. Ev

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