It appears to work fine, on the 86 when doing the talks key plus long menu.
I get the result of stand by, menu, and and messaging.
So it should be working fine on your device also.
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response below your question.
On Oct 9, 2010, at 11:38 PM, John D. Lipsey wrote:
> Also, has anyone successfully performed batch processing with Amadeus? AS I
> recall, it wants you to drag and drop files to add to the batch. Another
> work around
Go to the file menu and go to new batch pro
Hi Eric,
Actually, as I had indicated when I first reported the beta cycle, I learned
about it at a conference I was at. I've signed no disclosure agreements. I
don't think the beta is as formal as some apparently believe. I would suggest
contacting Abisee directly by phone and inquire about
Hello, I use cdx but I think that is only a windows burning program. Cdx
allows you to burn in to mp3, ogg and wmb formats by pushing one of the
function keys. I have used easy cd creater as well. But I prefer itunes,
it does a better job. I just burn my music to mp3 format and than when I a
Hi Victor;
With your phone connected to your Mac, while in iTunes, locate the 'restore'
button with VO. Once it's selected, route your mouse pointer to the button with
VO command F5 or the shortcut of your choice. Turn VO off and do an option
click. As you know, you'll obviously need to use the
Actually the term is rip. you rip cds to mp3, ogg, flac, av, etc. You burn mp3
or data to disk. A lot of people including myself mix those up or used to
anyways. but I love itunes for its simplisity in ripping cds or as apple calls
them importing.
Good luck.
On Oct 10, 2010, at 5:29 AM, heathe
Ah, did not have coffee yet. Rip is the better term! Heather
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Dear All,
Many of you will have seen me around before on the various lists so no need
for introductions, I've been a PC user now for in excess of 20 years, and
have attempted to make the switch to Mac now 3 times without success.
The first point I want to make is that this is not for lack of desi
Hi,
Try quick nav, by pressing the left and right arrows simultaneously. Then, many
navigation tasks can be handled from the arrows alone. Specifically:
Down+right: Interact
Down+left: stop interacting
Up+right and up+left: change the rotor setting (which is what you navigate with
up/down arrows
I do most of my key board stuff using one hand. I use NumPad commander.
The one thing you forgot is I can buy a Mac for less than the price of jaws.
louie
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Hi, Neil,
I'm commenting before I read the other replies, so that I can give you my own
response to what you've written.
First, you can use QuickNav in Voiceover, which will give you most
screen-reader commands with two fingers on one hand.
Secondly, in my experience, when one application free
Hello Neil and list,
I do tend to agree with you re multiple key input.
I haven't tried this myself, but you might try sticky keys, where you can press
keys sequentially instead of simultaneously. Of course, you still have a string
of keys and perhaps vast distances to traverse.
John S
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Silly question ahead!!
How does one rout the VO cursor to a particular area? I think I knew this at
one point, but have forgotten it as I don't tend to use it very often.
On Oct 10, 2010, at 2:27 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> response below your question.
>
> On Oct 9, 2010, at 11:38 PM, John D.
Quicknav allows you to use one hand. I almost never turn quicknav off, unless
I'm working in a program where I need my arrow keys to function as arrow keys,
such as Amadeus Pro. Quicknav is kind of like locking the VO keys, but it only
applies to the arrow keys, enabling you to still enter tex
Hello Neil,
I've never used a PC so can't make comparisons. However, I currently have a
student who likes to use just one hand to operate his Mac and he does this by
using Quick Nav and Keyboard commander.
Everyone has different needs, so you should put in the Keyboard Commander
shortcuts that
Neil,
thats is a mouthful.
I too am more than a little frustrated with how apple setup voiceover's keys. I
had to learn this blind with no support and with a mouse I don't use. its slow
going for right now.
as a refrain: I have not used window eyes or jaws. I used to use windows on a
separate
Hi Neil and others:
I have an interesting prospective, having worked with a Mac for almost a year,
and only made the switch semi-successfully. Further, I'm not a genius, a tech
expert, or even a wizzard. I'm just a computer user who is fascinated by what
I can achieve with the technology and l
Louie,
I did not forget that, and whilst I appreciate that price is a sensitive
issue for many on the list. I specifically left it out of my question, as
price is not an issue here.
the issue is purely productivity and get things done.
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Teresa,
as I've pointed out, gone are the days of the blue screen of death on a PC.
I never have application crashes which bring down the whole machine, haven't
done so for many years now.
this is purely about navigation with a Mac.
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John,
a worthwhile suggestion, and I thank you, but it is still less productive
and efficient as my PC experience at this time.
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TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
accessible phone, PDA and GPS relat
Yes, there is also voice operation as well! If you cant do the keyboard
commands, I think you can operate your computer through voice! I am not
sure how much, perhaps an experience mac user might chime in here. Heather
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Carolyn,
thank you, not a soap box, your comments are echoed by many, and I too do
not wish to continue to pay for JAWS where not needed.
but, firstly, I am not comparing apples and oranges, the single finger
navigation of a PC is not thanks to Freedom Scientific nor JAWS etc, its
Microsoft
Anne,
so you hit the nail on the head in part here, so I'm busy reading the Voice
Over manual, which happily guides me through how to do everything the Voice
Over way, yet, hang on, there's already a command for that for sighted
users, such as the Command F2, which is mirrored by Control, Options,
Hi all:
I have several avi files that I'd like to convert to ogg, hence my question
earlier about batch processing. However, it appears that Amadeus won't open
avi files. Therefore, I'd like some recommendations of alternatives.
Preferably something that will do batch processing, but that's
Heather,
thank you, also a good idea, but not practical in many of the situations and
environments I find myself working in.
but thank you never the less.
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TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
accessi
Many thanks for the replies and especially Ricardo's! It worked like a charm
and my Mac talks again [smiles]
Love this list with all you knowledgeable folks.
Talk soon,
Ronald
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Hello all i have only been a mac user for just over a month and i have to say i
can see neels point. I have to say it would be good if they could create a way
where like jaws the option key could become like a windows key and take you in
to all the menues that way and give the controle key some
very useful info think i will keep this as a reffrance.
Ian McNamara
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Universal keyboard navigation like f1 for help and all the other
keystrokes came from I.B.M. among others, Microsoft just complied with an
already existing and published standard. Same deal with file formats in
Microsoft Office, they're all in the ISO standards.On Sun, 10 Oct 2010,
Neil Barnfa
Not only can you turn quicknav on/off and interact/stop interacting with an
item, but you can use the rotor to change how you navigate with the up/down
arrow keys.
You can cycle through words, characters, and navigation. This allows you the
ability to use quicknav to perform a considerable numb
SOmetimes I think the question really is why did the Apple Engineers come up
with the alternate key commands instead of leveraging the existing commands of
the OS? I suspect this was to keep uniformity with all the other non-OS
specific commands. Was that the right choice? That is a good questio
Neil,
As somebody who has literally just switched, I would say two things.
Firstly, your analysis of the way people use computers doesn't take account of
the fact that any person using the keyboard can only do what the keyboard
allows. Voice Over does not reorganise content on the screen like W
Ian,
If you learn quicknav, I think this will help address your desire to use one
hand instead of two. CHeck it out, I believe you will find this satisfactory.
On Oct 10, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Ian McNamara wrote:
> Hello all i have only been a mac user for just over a month and i have to say
> i ca
Hi folks.
Does anyone of you know of any score/notation-software for the Mac that
works with VoiceOver?
For example, have anyone here tried Avid Sibelius? If so, is it usable
or what?
Thanks so much in advance
-David
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Forgive my ignorance as I am really knew to the mac, there is two sets of
keyboard commands? So can voiceover users choose which ones to use or no?
Can someone explain what they mean two sets of commands, I only found one
using the braille guide. Heather
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OK, so in Windows, I could use the arrow keys and the tab key to navigate. They
are on opposite sides of the keyboard. If I don't have a number pad, which most
people don't any more, I can't do anything else at all with one hand. To
navigate many dialogs, all I can get to is the buttons, and I a
Neil,
The additional VO commands are often just easier to reach, but why are you
denying yourself the OS ones? One point I will conceed is that the
documentation should tell us about both OS and VO keystrokes.
Cheers
Dave
On 10 Oct 2010, at 19:58, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
Anne,
so yo
Ian,
Try just pressing space next time! It most often does work, and is the way to
access many controls! You'll find that simple things just do usually work. I
agree with your suggestion for modifying the Option key to open the menu bar
though.
Cheers
Dave
On 10 Oct 2010, at 20:12, Ian McNama
Hi, Neil,
Well, you could have a reference for Mac keystrokes. The Missing Manual series
from OReilly Publishers covers this extensively. Just as you have insert-f11 to
bring up the task tray list in JAWS or SA, so you also you have Windows-B to do
the same thing. I'm a firm believer that ther
Hi John,
I was just mentioning on the list the other day, that I frequently find
myself needing to boot into windows on my Mac to complete work because the
application does not exist or thedoes not work as well as on the PC. I truly
feel that the Mac software is making leaps and great s
Hi Neil,
Can you give an example of this 1 finger navigation on windows? You mean just
using tab and the arrow keys?
Thanks.
On Oct 10, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
> Carolyn,
>
> thank you, not a soap box, your comments are echoed by many, and I too do not
> wish to c
Hi,
What we meant by 2 commands is, some voiceover commands overlap with standard
Mac keyboard commands. For example,you can press VO M to take you to the menu
bar or, use the Mac OS command control F2. There is no setting to select or
anything like that. There is a handful of other example
Neal, you have a good point about the duplicate voiceover commands. I haven't
used JAWS in a while, so things may have changed, but there was a time when
JAWS did the same, taught special JAWS commands where Windows keyboard commands
already existed. Your reference to sighted people using keybo
Hi Heather:
There are times when the developers of voiceover overlapped with the operating
system regular commands. So, you may find there are often several ways of
getting the same thing done. Some people, for example read mail messages using
Vo-j, while others simply use the enter key to acc
Hi there everyone. I'm not having much luck here and figured I'd ask here on
the list again. Is there a client that works well on the mac with voiceover.
For windows there's vipmud, do we have anything?
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Hi there everyone. I'm not having much luck here and figured I'd ask here on
the list again. Is there a client that work
no i do not think we do at present as i would like one if we do as i still have
to use windows for mudding at the moment.
Ian McNamara.
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no worries. vo cmd f5 will do it then vo shift space.
Take care.
On Oct 10, 2010, at 10:46 AM, John D. Lipsey wrote:
> Silly question ahead!!
>
> How does one rout the VO cursor to a particular area? I think I knew this at
> one point, but have forgotten it as I don't tend to use it very often
No, haven't tried that. I'll see what happens.
On 2010-10-10, at 4:00 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Have you tried tiny-fugue yet? That works well on Linux. You can test it
> once you get it installed with tf ancientanguish.org too.On Sun, 10 Oct 2010,
> May McDonald wrote:
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>> Hi there every
Sott I just can't agree with you about the level of productivity. Whenever
someone says this, I find their scope is very narrow. If you were to base your
productivity on one application or on specialized software, perhaps that would
be true. The only software I need at work now is Microsoft Offi
I'm the lead developer on iTerm2 (http://sites.google.com/site/
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Please follow the bug by "starring" it here so you can be made aware
of it when it's implemented:
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Greetings Listers:
I'm finding accessing comments on Facebook pages difficult when using the
app with the IPod Touch. I can neither read them directly from the IPod, nor
can I respond. My Facebook App is up-to-date.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks much!
PJ
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I have taken to using both computers right now. I have a mac laptop and a
windows desktop. Grant it I use my windows desktop more but as I learn
voiceover, I hope to move between both systems equally. It is not about which
is better for it is a matter of perspective of the individual. I like
Neil, I get where you're coming from--the first couple weeks I spent
with the Mac, I had exactly the feelings you describe. I had no
problem learning the OS, but I couldn't possibly figure any way that
it would be more efficient than JAWS. I have done a complete 180 in
the year or so I've had since
Hi, if you have a desktop computer, you can use the numpad commander, and this
allows you to use the numpad for most commands. Also, you can turn on the quick
nav feature and this will allow you to use the regular arrow keys for
navigation. I actually enjoy navigating with the track pad, true, I
Well, I signed into this account and forgot to sign back into my
normal e-mail address so saw this message and figured I would respond.
Btw, if I see something in digest mode and want to respond to it, am
I allowed to make a separate e-mail or can I snip parts of the e-mail
when responding so as n
Hi Heather,
You can't access JFW in those places, but you can put NVDA (a free and
powerful screenreader) on a compact flash card or thumb drive etc. and
simply run it off of there without even having to install it on the
library's, your school's or your cousin's computer, and you can do
this whet
Hello. use http://m.facebook.com or the touch site which I don't have a link to.
Good luck.
I too find the facebook app a bit hard to use.
S
On Oct 10, 2010, at 6:21 PM, Peg Jolene wrote:
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>
>
>
> I’m finding accessing comments on Facebook pages difficult when using the
Neil,
good points all the way around.
I, personally, am a microsoft hater (I have way too much experience with the
inner workings of the OS to be anything other). but thats not the point.
Voiceover does have a "keyboard commander" and a "numberpad commander" mode. I
haven't tried either yet as
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