Neal, you have a good point about the duplicate voiceover commands. I haven't used JAWS in a while, so things may have changed, but there was a time when JAWS did the same, taught special JAWS commands where Windows keyboard commands already existed. Your reference to sighted people using keyboard commands with a Mac and Windows and you wanting to be on equal footing with them is interesting. When somebody gives you a osX keyboard command, why not just try it? My experience with most sighted people, except really good keyboardists like those I use to work with or programmers who have been around for a while is that few know any keyboard commands, and most are totally dependent on the mouse and are lost without it. The fact that keyboard alternatives are poorly if at all documented in mainstream help whether for MS or Apple or 3rd party programs does not help. I have used Windows for a long time, and I have no idea what you are talking about when you say you do one finger navigation, unless you mean using the up and down arrows to navigate in a document. Get a keyboard that has a number pad and use the numpad commander that has been a part of voiceover for a while. There is also the keyboard commander and there are those built in keyboard commands some of which you can find and document by looking in the various menus.
I agree that one of the areas where Apple's support for voiceover is lacking is compared with the documentation that comes with my Windows screen reader. Not many programs come with thorough manuals, probably because companies find that not enough people read them. For those of us who do prefer the written word to hours of podcasts or learning by exploration without an overview and examples, well, we're more or less out of luck. But I don't see a difference there between MS and Apple either. Indeed, when it comes to access-related documentation, Apple has it all over MS these days IMHO. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.