Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-29 Thread rossy
ciao luca and massimo veturetti! you know well that i don't agree with you. i don't understand what are your measures since with that other system in 20 years we stil can not install the os? you will say that an advanced user surely knows how to deal with this issue but as always i can anser

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-28 Thread Massimo
In data Giovedì 28 Luglio 2011 17.11.33, Krister Ekstrom ha scritto: Ok, i may be naive to the point of stupidness here, but i hope and pray to God that we will be free from scripting on the VO platform. As you wish. What I need to have done is automatic reading of incoming messages in skype

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-28 Thread Krister Ekstrom
ght, all! >> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark >>> Gilland >>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:50 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@google

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-27 Thread David Tanner
those packages are still as unstable, and buggy as they are after 15 years or more of "trying". - Original Message - From: "Luca" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:02 AM Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues Hi, Some

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-27 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Masimo, With respect to Spreadsheets, specifically Numbers, I'm not sure of what you are referring to with respect to its problems. After about one hour of playing around I was able to merge cells, do various formatting, implement functions and much more. I am quite proficient with compute

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-27 Thread Massimo Vettoretti
Il giorno 26/lug/2011, alle ore 05:07, Mike Arrigo ha scritto: > I would also ask, what does voiceover not do that you need it to do? I would > say it does most things the windows screen readers do, and in some ways does > many of them better. Hello Mike. I usually like your podcasts and I fin

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-27 Thread Luca
;m sure that sooner or later, (hopefully > > sooner), Apple will fix all of these issues. > > Good night, all! > > > -Original Message- > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark > &

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-26 Thread Mike Arrigo
will I push a product on > someone unless I believe that it will truely meet their needs. > > > - Original Message - From: "carolyn Haas" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:26 PM > Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues > > >

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-26 Thread David Tanner
lieve that it will truely meet their needs. - Original Message - From: "carolyn Haas" To: Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:26 PM Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues Hi David: Can you be bribed? On Jul 25, 2011, at 7:24 PM, David Tanner wrote: I am certainly glad

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-25 Thread carolyn Haas
gt; Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:12 AM > Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues > > > Hi, > > In regards to the iWork stuff, Its kinda unfair to pin that on the Lion OS in > my opinion. after all, There has not been a major update to iWorks since > 2009. Lets

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-25 Thread Mike Arrigo
I would also ask, what does voiceover not do that you need it to do? I would say it does most things the windows screen readers do, and in some ways does many of them better. On Jul 25, 2011, at 8:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > In regards to the iWork stuff, Its kinda unfair to pin that

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-25 Thread David Tanner
I am certainly glad that I don't see nearly as many bugs in VoiceOver as you will find in the shark. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:12 AM Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues Hi, In regards to the i

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2011-07-25 Thread Chris Blouch
Haberl" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:13 PM Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues Thought I would updatethis quickly. I figured out why safari was being Soleil D and why I was having so many problems with voice over in Safari. Why was sitting on m

Re: Live regions what are they - was Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-25 Thread David Taylor
e the issue with my item chooser list. >>> >>> Now you got me curious! >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Quinn Haberl" >>> To: "MacVisionaries" >>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:1

Re: Live regions what are they - was Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-25 Thread Chris Blouch
s. - Original Message - From: "Quinn Haberl" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:13 PM Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues Thought I would updatethis quickly. I figured out why safari was being Soleil D and why I was having so many problem

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-25 Thread Krister Ekstrom
The problem with using Ivona voices is that they're only available in … yes you guessed it English, that's why i love the realspeak voices, they are actually available in my language, Swedish, which means that even i can go to a Mac anywhere, hit cmd+f5 and it comes up talking in my language. A

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-25 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, In regards to the iWork stuff, Its kinda unfair to pin that on the Lion OS in my opinion. after all, There has not been a major update to iWorks since 2009. Lets see what the next big release will mean for accessibility. And in regards to the lack of new features, hmm, I don't know. For

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-25 Thread James Malone
Alright alright, here's my rant/chat about Lion. I have my mixed opinions on the OS as it were, and mainly Voiceover. I do to some extent, feel that Apple didn't give as much thought to Voiceover, or didn't focus more on important areas and major bugs and correcting them. For someone like me, Item

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-25 Thread Luca
I agree, i was expecting a lot more from vo in lion... look, two years have passed since last release, and what have you new? ok activities, single navigation letter (which could have been made better...), international voices (very buggy, cant deny it...), and new drag and drop... Well in two

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-25 Thread Ricardo Walker
gt;> >>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:05 PM, Missy Hope wrote: >>> >>>> Amen! Very well said! I agree 100 percent with everything in this message. >>>> Bottom line, we're paying the price for pouncing >>>> on a new OS the day it came out. I

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-25 Thread Krister Ekstrom
25 jul 2011 kl. 02:40 skrev matthew Dyer: > If you remember when 10.6 was released, 10.6.1 came out with in a week of its > first release. > And i have read in the Swedish Macworld, that 10.7.1 is due out within a few weeks. I'm not worried at all and i as i said before don't even begin to d

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-25 Thread Krister Ekstrom
e wrote: >>> >>>> Amen! Very well said! I agree 100 percent with everything in this message. >>>> Bottom line, we're paying the price for pouncing >>>> on a new OS the day it came out. I'm sure that sooner or later, (hopefully >>>> sooner

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-24 Thread matthew Dyer
t; wrote: >> Oh believe me, if you've not been following the thread, the lag is the least >> of your worries! >> >> Chris. >> >> >> >> - Original Message ----- >> From: "Quinn Haberl" >> To: "MacVisionaries&quo

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
You referenced something called quick search, what is that? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Laura M" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues Tim, thank you. I've been thinking this for

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-24 Thread Laura M
t; >> Bottom line, we're paying the price for pouncing > >> on a new OS the day it came out. I'm sure that sooner or later, (hopefully > >> sooner), Apple will fix all of these issues. > >> Good night, all! > > >> -Original Message- &

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark >> Gilland >> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:50 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues >

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-24 Thread John Panarese
OS the day it came out. I'm sure that sooner or later, (hopefully >>> sooner), Apple will fix all of these issues. >>> Good night, all! >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-24 Thread Lynn Schneider
Good night, all! >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark >>> Gilland >>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 20

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark >> Gilland >> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:50 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues >> Importance: High >> >> I wouldn't so much say that they a

RE: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-24 Thread Missy Hoppe
day, July 24, 2011 2:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues Well said. Apple will sort it out. Until then, I've reverted to Snow Leopard, and I'll keep it until some updates to Lion have come out. Using a March 2011 Macbook Pro 13 inch with t

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-24 Thread Chris Snyder
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues > Importance: High > > I wouldn't so much say that they are losing commitment, as much as I'd say, > they seem to be getting very sloppy. I mean, ok, here's my thing. I > totally

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-24 Thread Mike Arrigo
gs are a month from now. I bet by then there are going >>> to be a lot of changed attitudes about the whole Lion experience. >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" >>> >>> To:

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom
As i understand it, and i can be wrong, you'll have to tell Mail if you want to see related mails from other mailboxes or not. This could be done from the "view" menu or from preferences if you always wanted to have mails from other mailboxes included. /Krister 23 jul 2011 kl. 22:06 skrev Mary

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-23 Thread David Tanner
I understand exactly what you are saying, and what you are saying is essentially what I changed. I went into the view preferences and chose to sort by date instead of by thread. I have never liked reading by thread. I prefer to see messages according to when they were received and so I sat th

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-23 Thread Mary Otten
David, I am curious. I've been using the mail in SL and am reasonably happy with its efficiency. I gather that you can keep the classic view if you want it, but I'd like to know what you changed and what you like about the new way with your changes as opposed to the Snow Leopard implementation.

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-23 Thread Massimo
In data Sabato 23 Luglio 2011 15.38.26, Donna Goodin ha scritto: Well said, massimo. And why don't we discuss the new international voices? I am italian, so, just for a moment, I'll talk about italian voices. Well, we have Silvia and Paolo. Paolo, the compact and the "premium version too, ar

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-23 Thread David Tanner
>> >> Let's see where things are a month from now. I bet by then there are going >> to be a lot of changed attitudes about the whole Lion experience. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" >>

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-23 Thread Donna Goodin
Well said, massimo. Donna On Jul 23, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Massimo wrote: > In data Sabato 23 Luglio 2011 6.13.35, David Tanner > ha scritto: >> How much of the problems that people are having is caused because the OS is >> new, and things are done a bit different and it is too soon to have learne

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-23 Thread Massimo
In data Sabato 23 Luglio 2011 6.13.35, David Tanner ha scritto: How much of the problems that people are having is caused because the OS is new, and things are done a bit different and it is too soon to have learned the new ways of doing things in the new OS. There a large majority of those w

Live regions what are they - was Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-23 Thread Krister Ekstrom
To: "MacVisionaries" > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:13 PM > Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues > > > Thought I would updatethis quickly. I figured out why safari was > being Soleil D and why I was having so many problems with voice over > in Safa

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-23 Thread Krister Ekstrom
er, (hopefully > sooner), Apple will fix all of these issues. > Good night, all! > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-23 Thread Krister Ekstrom
;> On Jul 22, 8:54 pm, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" >> wrote: >>> Oh believe me, if you've not been following the thread, the lag is the least >>> of your worries! >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> >>> >>>

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-23 Thread Christopher Peppel
Yes, the one thing that I have noticed is that it keeps saying Safari Busy when I go to logoff of my banking website. I didn't have this problem before. Chris On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Quinn Haberl wrote: > Just wondering if anyone else out there notice that there are a lot of > witches with

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-22 Thread carolyn Haas
e a month from now. I bet by then there are going > to be a lot of changed attitudes about the whole Lion experience. > > > > - Original Message - From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" > > To: > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:50 PM > Subject: Re: Voic

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-22 Thread David Tanner
ience. - Original Message - From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" To: Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:50 PM Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues I wouldn't so much say that they are losing commitment, as much as I'd say, they seem to be getting very sloppy. I mean

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-22 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
No need to apologize, bro, It's perfectly OK. I think my point was made. LOL! Smile. Thanks for the kind words. Talk atcha later. Chris. - Original Message - From: "mário gabriel" To: Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:21 PM Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other li

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-22 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Visionaries" Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:13 PM Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues Thought I would updatethis quickly. I figured out why safari was being Soleil D and why I was having so many problems with voice over in Safari. Why was sitting on my computer I was thinking

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-22 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
nn Haberl" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:13 PM Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues Thought I would updatethis quickly. I figured out why safari was being Soleil D and why I was having so many problems with voice over in Safari. Why was sitting on my c

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-22 Thread mário gabriel
Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues I wouldn't so much say that they are losing commitment, as much as I'd say, they seem to be getting very sloppy. I mean, ok, here's my thing. I totally am with all you all in saying everyone just chill. the only reason I'm

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-22 Thread Quinn Haberl
Thought I would updatethis quickly. I figured out why safari was being Soleil D and why I was having so many problems with voice over in Safari. Why was sitting on my computer I was thinking maybe I should check the voice over Control Panel thing. I did so and is the web category in the voice over

RE: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-22 Thread Missy Hoppe
- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues Importance: High I wouldn't so much say that

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-22 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I wouldn't so much say that they are losing commitment, as much as I'd say, they seem to be getting very sloppy. I mean, ok, here's my thing. I totally am with all you all in saying everyone just chill. the only reason I'm keeping my stance so strong on this is the fact that look at this. I

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-22 Thread Chris Westbrook
> - Original Message - >> From: "Quinn Haberl" >> To: "MacVisionaries" >> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:06 PM >> Subject: Voice over lag and other lion issues >> >>> Just wondering if anyone else out there notice that there ar

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-22 Thread Quinn Haberl
uot;MacVisionaries" > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:06 PM > Subject: Voice over lag and other lion issues > > > Just wondering if anyone else out there notice that there are a lot of > > witches with Mac OSx lion invoice over.  One of the things I noticed > > right

Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-22 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Oh believe me, if you've not been following the thread, the lag is the least of your worries! Chris. - Original Message - From: "Quinn Haberl" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: Voice over lag and other lion issues Just won

RE: Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-22 Thread Missy Hoppe
om: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Quinn Haberl Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:07 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Voice over lag and other lion issues Just wondering if anyone else out there notice that there are a lot of witches with Mac OSx lion invoice over.

Voice over lag and other lion issues

2011-07-22 Thread Quinn Haberl
Just wondering if anyone else out there notice that there are a lot of witches with Mac OSx lion invoice over. One of the things I noticed right away when trying to use the new voices is that you get the annoying message that says voiceover busy. I notice that it happens a lot in the Safari web br