Hi David: Very well said. It's so easy to gripe and start blaming someone when what we did before doesn't work the same anymore. I like the way you've pointed this out. It sounds much better than I could have done.
Take care Oh, and BTW: found that iPad setting. Thanks again. Carolyn On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:13 PM, David Tanner wrote: > How much of the problems that people are having is caused because the OS is > new, and things are done a bit different and it is too soon to have learned > the new ways of doing things in the new OS. There a large majority of those > who are complaining of problems who are new or relatively new to Apple in the > first place, and now they are trying to deal with a new operating system > which was announced to have way over 200 changes and new features. > > People need to realize that it is going to take more than 24 hours to learn a > new operating system that has over 250 changes and new features. And, how > many of these folks have sat down with the list of new features and even read > through them to learn how to use those new features? > > Let's see where things are a month from now. I bet by then there are going > to be a lot of changed attitudes about the whole Lion experience. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" > <clgillan...@gmail.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:50 PM > Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues > > >> I wouldn't so much say that they are losing commitment, as much as I'd say, >> they seem to be getting very sloppy. I mean, ok, here's my thing. I >> totally am with all you all in saying everyone just chill. the only reason >> I'm keeping my stance so strong on this is the fact that look at this. I >> mean, this looks like we should still be running a beta with all these bugs. >> come on, lookit! We have some beta testers on here, do we not? Admit it, >> did you all see any of these bugs? If not, then wow. I apologize. Really >> I do. I'm then out of lign severely, and for that, I'm ashamed of myself, >> but, really, think about this for justa minute. OK, you all can shoot me, I >> know you may want me to shut up, as does a few people who we won't mention, >> but, if they and all you others will please I beg you, just! for once, hear >> me out for a second. >> >> If you will, and will at least acknowledge me, then I'll perhaps shut up. >> >> Just let me have this for a sec. >> >> Look, let's addres this from a fact stand point rather than a Chris's >> opinion standpoint, ok? >> >> this way it's more fair. >> >> 1. We all agree this is a new O S, right? >> >> 2. We all agree that things are very buggy in many areas, right? Uh dab >> dab dap? Holdit! I'm not done, listen to me! I'm still talking. You'll >> get your chance. I didn't ask you all if th3e problems can be addressed in >> a software update. I'll address that in a second. right now, we're just >> looking at the facts. OK? So I repeat: >> >> 2. Is it not true, that we all agree that lots of things are buggy? Yes, >> or no. >> >> 3. Do we all agree that these are problems that should have probably been >> addressed at least to some extent during the beta cycle before the official >> release? Yes or no>? >> >> 4. Do we all agree that most of these bugs can be delt with and tollerated >> to some degree? >> >> OK then. >> >> I think we all agree on all the above, so why such hostility toward me and >> everyone else on list by some members. Look, I feel you all's frustration, >> we just want things to work, but we also are getting frustrated at the >> nonconstructive messages cluttering the inbox of many. But, there is a >> delete key, and I assure you, things will die down once Lion is more >> progressed. Right now, everyone is just kind of in that what the bird state >> right now. >> >> do we need to chill? OK, maybe so, but, really people, do you really think >> that an O S should be this buggy before official release? I know you all >> don't like hearing what I'm saying, and it's pissing you all off hearing it, >> but that's because I am not afraid to speak my mind nor the truth. The >> blunt truth is, at least in my view of things, Apple is beginning to fail >> miserably at there line of duty with accessibilty. Now, does this mean I'm >> saying that they are purposefully? doing this? No! Mark it in red what I >> say here: Ab, suh, lootly? not! I think they're just becoming more and >> more lazy, maybe not wanting to be so involved. Maybe they're trying to take >> on too much at once. I, don't, know! I don't know what goes on behind the >> scenes there? I probably don't, wanna? know! The point is, we really can't >> make accusations, can we! We don't know if they're really working behind >> the scene or not. So, on the one hand, should we probably just chill? Yes, >> but, having said that, is it mortally wrong for me to constructively >> complain about observations I've found? Yes. Is it justifiable to say >> negative things about bugs I find which we all knkow exist? Yes! It's just >> an observation/opinion people? It's not your spouce who won't... umm... I'm >> not finishing that... LOL! ROFL! >> >> You get the point. >> >> So in my defense, I ask jpeole, please be more gentle with me. I'm only >> trying to help you all, and make suggestions. I may come on harsh at times, >> I know I do, but for god sake, cut me some slack! I'm frustrated! Can you >> blame me? Are we not all at one point or another in life? Bluntly? Deal >> with it, or don't read my mail! It's not rocket science! >> >> OK, I'm not gonna keep ranting and raving about htis. I've said my peace and >> hopefully've been heard. Enough is enough, in all respect fiarness to all >> of you all. 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