No, that really didn't seem to fix anything with the item chooser issues.
You know, that issue is baffling me more and more by the second!
Does anyone even remotely? know what maybe causing certain things to not
show up there that you darn well know are? there?
I mean, this is crazyness! It would be one thing if it were just one site,
but I'm seeing this on that site suggested the other day, tazachocolate.com,
as well as in gmail, and, on the hj.com site. I hate to keep mentioning the
hj site, but the point is like it or not it's an example where the issue
exists. I'm not too fond of FS either as a company, but, that's no excuse
to deny me finding a bug on their web site. It's just a web site for crying
out loud!
So don't smash me into the wall. K?
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Quinn Haberl" <quinnhaber...@gmail.com>
To: "MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues
Thought I would updatethis quickly. I figured out why safari was
being Soleil D and why I was having so many problems with voice over
in Safari. Why was sitting on my computer I was thinking maybe I
should check the voice over Control Panel thing. I did so and is the
web category in the voice over control panel at the very bottom of the
settings page there is a checkbox that in lion comes checked. This
check boxes called live regions. In a nutshell what it does is it
updates parts of the website that are continually updated for example
ad banners and things like that. I uncheck the checkbox and now
everything seems to be working fine. So unless you really know what
that checkbox does on CheckIt and life will be made much easier at
least it was for me. I didn't mean to be so critical of apple in my
last post. As a matter of fact being a recent Windows convert I have
found that Apple accessibility is amazing. And yes I do agree that we
do need to show some patients on our part. Everyone makes mistakes
it's just hard to deal with those mistakes when voice over and the
other Mac accessibility features are the only way in which you have
access to all your information. I don't mean this to directly
criticize anyone on this blog. I have found the Mac blog very helpful
in solving and answering questions. The criticism is more geared
toward myself as self-criticism.
On Jul 22, 9:50 pm, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <clgillan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I wouldn't so much say that they are losing commitment, as much as I'd
say,
they seem to be getting very sloppy. I mean, ok, here's my thing. I
totally am with all you all in saying everyone just chill. the only reason
I'm keeping my stance so strong on this is the fact that look at this. I
mean, this looks like we should still be running a beta with all these
bugs.
come on, lookit! We have some beta testers on here, do we not? Admit it,
did you all see any of these bugs? If not, then wow. I apologize. Really
I do. I'm then out of lign severely, and for that, I'm ashamed of myself,
but, really, think about this for justa minute. OK, you all can shoot me,
I
know you may want me to shut up, as does a few people who we won't
mention,
but, if they and all you others will please I beg you, just! for once,
hear
me out for a second.
If you will, and will at least acknowledge me, then I'll perhaps shut up.
Just let me have this for a sec.
Look, let's addres this from a fact stand point rather than a Chris's
opinion standpoint, ok?
this way it's more fair.
1. We all agree this is a new O S, right?
2. We all agree that things are very buggy in many areas, right? Uh dab
dab dap? Holdit! I'm not done, listen to me! I'm still talking. You'll
get your chance. I didn't ask you all if th3e problems can be addressed in
a software update. I'll address that in a second. right now, we're just
looking at the facts. OK? So I repeat:
2. Is it not true, that we all agree that lots of things are buggy? Yes,
or no.
3. Do we all agree that these are problems that should have probably been
addressed at least to some extent during the beta cycle before the
official
release? Yes or no>?
4. Do we all agree that most of these bugs can be delt with and tollerated
to some degree?
OK then.
I think we all agree on all the above, so why such hostility toward me and
everyone else on list by some members. Look, I feel you all's frustration,
we just want things to work, but we also are getting frustrated at the
nonconstructive messages cluttering the inbox of many. But, there is a
delete key, and I assure you, things will die down once Lion is more
progressed. Right now, everyone is just kind of in that what the bird
state
right now.
do we need to chill? OK, maybe so, but, really people, do you really think
that an O S should be this buggy before official release? I know you all
don't like hearing what I'm saying, and it's pissing you all off hearing
it,
but that's because I am not afraid to speak my mind nor the truth. The
blunt truth is, at least in my view of things, Apple is beginning to fail
miserably at there line of duty with accessibilty. Now, does this mean I'm
saying that they are purposefully? doing this? No! Mark it in red what I
say here: Ab, suh, lootly? not! I think they're just becoming more and
more lazy, maybe not wanting to be so involved. Maybe they're trying to
take on too much at once. I, don't, know! I don't know what goes on behind
the scenes there? I probably don't, wanna? know! The point is, we really
can't make accusations, can we! We don't know if they're really working
behind the scene or not. So, on the one hand, should we probably just
chill? Yes, but, having said that, is it mortally wrong for me to
constructively complain about observations I've found? Yes. Is it
justifiable to say negative things about bugs I find which we all knkow
exist? Yes! It's just an observation/opinion people? It's not your spouce
who won't... umm... I'm not finishing that... LOL! ROFL!
You get the point.
So in my defense, I ask jpeole, please be more gentle with me. I'm only
trying to help you all, and make suggestions. I may come on harsh at
times,
I know I do, but for god sake, cut me some slack! I'm frustrated! Can you
blame me? Are we not all at one point or another in life? Bluntly? Deal
with it, or don't read my mail! It's not rocket science!
OK, I'm not gonna keep ranting and raving about htis. I've said my peace
and
hopefully've been heard. Enough is enough, in all respect fiarness to all
of you all. I rest my case.
Chris.
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